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Post by sdm3 on Dec 27, 2017 23:20:43 GMT
Breaking Bad was brilliant at putting together multiple episodes that work amazingly well when you watch them together. Half Measure and Full Measure in season 3, and then End Times and Face/Off capping off Season 4 (off the top of my head; there are other examples). They're like movies. Season 4 in particular, when you can watch Walt's plan unfold across both episodes, just incredible stuff that never lets up. 10/10 television....(as opposed to The Walking Dead where they keep referring to a "Plan" and that everything they do is part of some greater plan, but in reality they're just walking around with the dicks in their hands, occasionally firing their weapons on infinite ammo mode). Sorry, I digress. Great call on the Full Measure scene. For me, the scene in Half Measure where Mike explains to Walt what a half measure is and how "he'll never make that mistake again"....man, Jonathan Banks owned that role as much as any supporting character has ever owned any role. Oh yeah, Jonathan Banks was amazing. I loved Mike, though not as much as Walt. And yeah, the scene you mentioned is amazing as well. I think most of the best scenes involve Walt and Mike. Another great one is Mike's last scene, the little screaming speech he gives Walt before walking away and getting shot. Then of course his final words are the most bad ass final words ever. Oh, and he also had, in my opinion, the funniest moment on the show. It was from an episode from the middle of the first half of season 5. Don't remember off the top of my head the episode or name, but it was either 4 5 or 6. It was when he and Jesse tell Walt they are done. Mike tells him he had to throw a DEA tail. Walt gets all nervous and goes "Did they follow you???" And Mike, in the most perfect mix of sarcasm and deadpan, both in voice and facial expression, says: "No Walter, i said I threw them. i would not come to the headquarters of our illegal meth operation dragging a bunch of cops. It would be unwise" The way he said that, especially the last sentence, was just perfect and hilarious. BB had so many funny moments too. I'm curious what other ones people liked. So to quote survey enthusiast Tom Rocks: Anyone Else? ? Also, and this is super important, Jesse's dad looked a lot like former Ravens coach Brian Billick. Carry on... No one has mentioned Walt's breakdown in the crawl space - that episode was intense beyond words and I'll never forget how I felt on that first viewing. Truly apocalyptic. How about Gus' slaughter of the Cartel in Salud? That shot of him leaving the house to see everyone dropping like flies? Hank's shootout with the Cousins? Walt's decision to finally go back to ABQ upon seeing Elliot and Gretchen on TV, with the music while the police storm the bar? Too many incredible scenes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 23:22:16 GMT
I fast-forward the Skylar scenes on rewatches.... she does my head in now!! I think the fatter she got - the hotter she got I'm sure Ted agreed
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Post by sdm3 on Dec 27, 2017 23:23:50 GMT
I fast-forward the Skylar scenes on rewatches.... she does my head in now!! I think the fatter she got - the hotter she got I'm sure Ted agreed She was particularly voluptuous in season 4, I gotta admit.
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Post by runie on Dec 27, 2017 23:53:52 GMT
not bad set of babbyloons!
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Post by MrFurious on Dec 30, 2017 18:08:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 18:09:52 GMT
Love 'Trading Places' - regard it as a 'Christmas Movie' and it's set in Philly
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Post by tristramshandy on Dec 30, 2017 18:51:57 GMT
Funny thing is I've watched the whole series 4 times now. Interestingly the two shows I have on my plate to rewatch right now are Boardwalk Empire and Oz. I'd love to watch Boardwalk Empire a second time. I'm so slow with watching shows a first time that it will be difficult, but the desire is there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:05:33 GMT
Funny thing is I've watched the whole series 4 times now. Interestingly the two shows I have on my plate to rewatch right now are Boardwalk Empire and Oz. I'd love to watch Boardwalk Empire a second time. I'm so slow with watching shows a first time that it will be difficult, but the desire is there. So odd you brought that up - I've owned the pilot episode and Season 1 for years and never gave it a watch. Watched the pilot episode for the first time early this morning. Good stuff - always have been a huge Steve Buscemi fan, mafia/mob movie fan, and Atlantic City isn't too far from me. Found it in my collection collecting dust last night and forgot I had it.
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Post by tristramshandy on Dec 30, 2017 19:17:40 GMT
I'd love to watch Boardwalk Empire a second time. I'm so slow with watching shows a first time that it will be difficult, but the desire is there. So odd you brought that up - I've owned the pilot episode and Season 1 for years and never gave it a watch. Watched the pilot episode for the first time early this morning. Good stuff - always have been a huge Steve Buscemi fan, mafia/mob movie fan, and Atlantic City isn't too far from me. Found it in my collection collecting dust last night and forget I had it. For me it is a tier below Breaking Bad and The Wire, but that still puts it at an awesome must watch. Huge, sweeping story with tons of memorable characters. Like The Wire in the number of characters, but I found it easier to follow along with (The Wire gets easier but was difficult at first).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 19:22:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 20:15:23 GMT
The real criminals in this show were all the people who betrayed Walt. And some of them were actual criminals as well!
I just can't work out whose betrayal was the worst.
Jesse, the rat, every single mess they got themselves into you can bet your last penny that he was the root cause. Walt saved his arse over and over again. And how does he repay him? by ratting him out.
Hank, this thug was belittling Walt from day one right through to the end days when he had him handcuffed in his car, and to make it worse he belittled him in front of his son at times. You just don't do that. It's an unwritten rule, you never make a parent feel small in front of their kids. Then when Walt became the big cheese in the family, the hard man, he didn't like it one bit, so he destroyed both families and it ended up costing him his own life, and his partner's life.
Flynn, I don't think his betrayal was as bad as Jesse and Hank's, because he never set out to destroy Walt, but still though, when your dad becomes a meth kingpin, that deserves a little respect in my book. But the way he spoke to him on the phone, what an appalling lack of manners to show your father. Anyone would think he loved uncle Hank more than his real dad. If it were my dad, I think I would be like "bloody hell dad, didn't know you had it in you!", and if my uncle happened to be killed in the process then we would need to discuss that, but I would at least hear him out first.
Other candidates are Skyler, Marie, Gus, Mike, Jesse's junkie ex, the nazis... pretty much every main character actually with the exception of Saul Goodman. A lawyer you can trust!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 20:37:00 GMT
The real criminals in this show were all the people who betrayed Walt. And some of them were actual criminals as well! I just can't work out whose betrayal was the worst. Jesse, the rat, every single mess they got themselves into you can bet your last penny that he was the root cause. Walt saved his arse over and over again. And how does he repay him? by ratting him out. Hank, this thug was belittling Walt from day one right through to the end days when he had him handcuffed in his car, and to make it worse he belittled him in front of his son at times. You just don't do that. It's an unwritten rule, you never make a parent feel small in front of their kids. Then when Walt became the big cheese in the family, the hard man, he didn't like it one bit, so he destroyed both families and it ended up costing him his own life, and his partner's life. Flynn, I don't think his betrayal was as bad as Jesse and Hank's, because he never set out to destroy Walt, but still though, when your dad becomes a meth kingpin, that deserves a little respect in my book. But the way he spoke to him on the phone, what an appalling lack of manners to show your father. Anyone would think he loved uncle Hank more than his real dad. If it were my dad, I think I would be like "bloody hell dad, didn't know you had it in you!", and if my uncle happened to be killed in the process then we would need to discuss that, but I would at least hear him out first. Other candidates are Skyler, Marie, Gus, Mike, Jesse's junkie ex, the nazis... pretty much every main character actually with the exception of Saul Goodman. A lawyer you can trust!
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Dec 30, 2017 20:41:11 GMT
but how do you reconcile the fact it glorifies the narcotics lifestyle? Does it? By the end of the show, it works out for literally no one. Every main character is either dead, broken, or fucked in one way or another it's of a conciliatory ethos, yes?
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Post by sdm3 on Dec 31, 2017 1:28:15 GMT
So odd you brought that up - I've owned the pilot episode and Season 1 for years and never gave it a watch. Watched the pilot episode for the first time early this morning. Good stuff - always have been a huge Steve Buscemi fan, mafia/mob movie fan, and Atlantic City isn't too far from me. Found it in my collection collecting dust last night and forget I had it. For me it is a tier below Breaking Bad and The Wire, but that still puts it at an awesome must watch. Huge, sweeping story with tons of memorable characters. Like The Wire in the number of characters, but I found it easier to follow along with (The Wire gets easier but was difficult at first). Boardwalk Empire was very good but with the shortened final season and big time-jump, it's clear that it didn't really get the length or ending it was originally supposed to and that's a shame.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Dec 31, 2017 1:30:40 GMT
For me it is a tier below Breaking Bad and The Wire, but that still puts it at an awesome must watch. Huge, sweeping story with tons of memorable characters. Like The Wire in the number of characters, but I found it easier to follow along with (The Wire gets easier but was difficult at first). Boardwalk Empire was very good but with the shortened final season and big time-jump, it's clear that it didn't really get the length or ending it was originally supposed to and that's a shame. Not to mention the random wtf killing of AR off screen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 1:38:20 GMT
Anyone plan on re-watching the greatest television show in TV history? Marathon starts at 2:00pm (est) on AMC and runs every weekend until the end of January One of those shows IMO that never loses it's luster over time and has 'aged' well - still highly enjoyable. Drama, action, comedy, human interest stories, betrayal, lust, greed, deception - it's got it all. Is he wearing his big boy pants? Better Call Saul if pretty good too.
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Post by sdm3 on Dec 31, 2017 4:52:34 GMT
Regarding The Wire - all time great show - I'm finally catching up on David Simon's "The Deuce" from this year and it's great to see all the Wire alumni. I think this show captures 70s era Scorsese NYC better than "Vinyl', that 70s era NYC show directed by Scorsese himself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 18:51:20 GMT
So it begins....
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