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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 2, 2018 18:47:36 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Jan 2, 2018 19:24:47 GMT
Watch there be some manufactured outrage game of telephone that thinks Gunn called Jodie Foster "old".
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 2, 2018 19:34:15 GMT
Watch there be some manufactured outrage game of telephone that thinks Gunn called Jodie Foster "old". It wouldn't surprise me if that happened, he's already taking some flak for his comments on twitter. Foster underscores just how old and, frankly, out-of-touch she is with modern Hollywood with her statements. People who are critical of these films always out themselves as staunch haters by singling out comic book movies specifically. What about the Transformers franchise or the Fast and the Furious series? Are those pictures good for the Earth? |
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Post by ThatGuy on Jan 2, 2018 20:38:50 GMT
Watch there be some manufactured outrage game of telephone that thinks Gunn called Jodie Foster "old". It wouldn't surprise me if that happened, he's already taking some flak for his comments on twitter. Foster underscores just how old and, frankly, out-of-touch she is with modern Hollywood with her statements. People who are critical of these films always out themselves as staunch haters by singling out comic book movies specifically. What about the Transformers franchise or the Fast and the Furious series? Are those pictures good for the Earth? You aren't suppose to like movies that are made from the funny papers. You only suppose to like movies like... Elysium. But I think this is just another person in a long line that is hating on the movies that are popular and making the money. People like her and Luc Besson are getting upset because audiences aren't liking movies like Valerian. And whatever she just directed and nobody knows (or possibly cares) about. I mean, when was the last time anyone said "Oh snap, a Jodie Foster movie!"? Panic Room? Contact? |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 2, 2018 21:31:34 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if that happened, he's already taking some flak for his comments on twitter. Foster underscores just how old and, frankly, out-of-touch she is with modern Hollywood with her statements. People who are critical of these films always out themselves as staunch haters by singling out comic book movies specifically. What about the Transformers franchise or the Fast and the Furious series? Are those pictures good for the Earth? You aren't suppose to like movies that are made from the funny papers. You only suppose to like movies like... Elysium. But I think this is just another person in a long line that is hating on the movies that are popular and making the money. People like her and Luc Besson are getting upset because audiences aren't liking movies like Valerian. And whatever she just directed and nobody knows (or possibly cares) about. I mean, when was the last time anyone said "Oh snap, a Jodie Foster movie!"? Panic Room? Contact? Deep down inside, actors are frail people who are driven by ego and vanity. Jodie Foster is watching an industry she has been a part of since childhood change dramatically. The way people consume movies is changing, box office trends are shifting, and moviegoers are no longer inclined towards Hollywood's homogenous view of the world. The conversations she is hearing amongst her peers and colleagues must be radically different than the ones she was hearing ten years ago. Younger directors and actors are clamoring for a chance to work on big budget tentpole films which naturally include superhero films. Foster, as an older actress known for her smaller scale, dramatic work, must feel somewhat disenfranchised. These feelings have clearly translated into misplaced fear, anxiety and anger. Here is a woman who is likening the production of Super-Heroes movies to the ongoing destruction of the planet. Think about that. As 2017 has proven, Hollywood is fundamentally broken on many levels. Whether it is in regards to tone-deaf action film remakes like Deathwish, the whitewashing of a beloved Manga/Anime property like Ghost in the Shell or, the #MeeToo Movement, Foster and her ilk have a lot bigger fish to fry than the proliferation of superhero movies. I am a fan of Jody Foster's work. She usually radiates warmth, grace and sensitivity in her public persona; however, in this case, she was condescending, petty and wildly off the mark. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 2, 2018 21:48:02 GMT
Others have said the same though. James Caan said he was glad he was an actor in the 70s and not now.
Clint Eastwood said he was glad he wasn't a young actor with only superheroes to portray.
BTW he said his favorite character is the Sub-Mariner.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jan 2, 2018 22:36:18 GMT
Well yeah, because of all the range he showed playing cowboys and Dirty Harry. Eastwood is an extremely talented director, but let's face it, as an actor he's always been very limited.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 2, 2018 22:42:43 GMT
Well yeah, because of all the range he showed playing cowboys and Dirty Harry. Eastwood is an extremely talented director, but let's face it, as an actor he's always been very limited. I always put Clint Eastwood in the same category of actors like John Wayne, Kevin Cosner, Mel Gibson, and Keanu Reeves. No range as actors but REALLY good at playing 1 or 2 types of characters. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 2, 2018 22:45:56 GMT
Others have said the same though. James Caan said he was glad he was an actor in the 70s and not now. Clint Eastwood said he was glad he wasn't a young actor with only superheroes to portray. BTW he said his favorite character is the Sub-Mariner. Right, it was so much better when there was only gunfighters to play. BTW, I'm already tired of this straw man assertion that only superhero movies are made today. There are many many movies being made in virtually every genre. The number of superhero movies don't even come close to the number of westerns made in any given year in the 1950's for just one example. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 2, 2018 22:59:31 GMT
Right, it was so much better when there was only gunfighters to play. BTW, I'm already tired of this straw man assertion that only superhero movies are made today. There are many many movies being made in virtually every genre. The number of superhero movies don't even come close to the number of westerns made in any given year in the 1950's for just one example. Eastwood mentioned westerns as the superheroes of his day when he made his comment. But as I have said before, super heroes are pretty much immortal (as well as franchise characters). Your average western character is mortal and thus there is a built in suspense--because you can identify with the character as such. They have real life concerns. Superheroes, under the best circumstances, do not (and should not). I don't watch a superhero movie because I want meditations on the difficulty being a parent or special child-I want super villains and giant talking ants and other standard comic book stuff. But--even if movies are released in other genres--the majority of media coverage is built in for the superheroes. When I check daily Variety news feed 9 times out of then any story on action-adventure or sci-fi genres is entirely about superheroes and franchise characters, not original screenplay movies. And when they are original screenplay movies-they are about 2 people trapped in love on a spaceship, or outside a spaceship, something pretentious but with a genre wrapper. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 23:05:14 GMT
Well yeah, because of all the range he showed playing cowboys and Dirty Harry. Eastwood is an extremely talented director, but let's face it, as an actor he's always been very limited. Though he'd probably do well in a Punisher-type property. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 23:11:40 GMT
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 2, 2018 23:33:36 GMT
Well yeah, because of all the range he showed playing cowboys and Dirty Harry. Eastwood is an extremely talented director, but let's face it, as an actor he's always been very limited. Though he'd probably do well in a Punisher-type property. Very true but, it's ironic that he would have such disdain for superhero roles when he himself spent most, if not all, of his youth playing formulaic cowboy and detective roles. Of course, many of those films set the standard for their respective genres; however, I think a lot more were just formulaic entries that ended up causing audience fatigue to set in. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 0:00:32 GMT
Though he'd probably do well in a Punisher-type property. Very true but, it's ironic that he would have such disdain for superhero roles when he himself spent most, if not all, of his youth playing formulaic cowboy and detective roles. Of course, many of those films set the standard for their respective genres; however, I think a lot more were just formulaic entries that ended up causing audience fatigue to set in. Very true. And yes, Eastwood has a lot of nerve speaking out against superhero films when you look at how samey his own career is. Of course, this is the same man who arranged for Sandra Locke's career to be ruined if/when she left him. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Jan 3, 2018 0:08:58 GMT
You aren't suppose to like movies that are made from the funny papers. You only suppose to like movies like... Elysium. But I think this is just another person in a long line that is hating on the movies that are popular and making the money. People like her and Luc Besson are getting upset because audiences aren't liking movies like Valerian. And whatever she just directed and nobody knows (or possibly cares) about. I mean, when was the last time anyone said "Oh snap, a Jodie Foster movie!"? Panic Room? Contact? Deep down inside, actors are frail people who are driven by ego and vanity. Jodie Foster is watching an industry she has been a part of since childhood change dramatically. The way people consume movies is changing, box office trends are shifting, and moviegoers are no longer inclined towards Hollywood's homogenous view of the world. The conversations she is hearing amongst her peers and colleagues must be radically different than the ones she was hearing ten years ago. Younger directors and actors are clamoring for a chance to work on big budget tentpole films which naturally include superhero films. Foster, as an older actress known for her smaller scale, dramatic work, must feel somewhat disenfranchised. These feelings have clearly translated into misplaced fear, anxiety and anger. Here is a woman who is likening the production of Super-Heroes movies to the ongoing destruction of the planet. Think about that. As 2017 has proven, Hollywood is fundamentally broken on many levels. Whether it is in regards to tone-deaf action film remakes like Deathwish, the whitewashing of a beloved Manga/Anime property like Ghost in the Shell or, the #MeeToo Movement, Foster and her ilk have a lot bigger fish to fry than the proliferation of superhero movies. I am a fan of Jody Foster's work. She usually radiates warmth, grace and sensitivity in her public persona; however, in this case, she was condescending, petty and wildly off the mark. Of course they are frail. These are the people that haven't moved out of the "let's play pretend" stage of their lives. Most of them act like spoiled children especially when they don't get their way. And about the whitewashing thing: I think that would be better if they didn't both cater to and look down on them at the same time. Make an adaption of something. Don't do something like have it set in country of origin of the original, but then have white lead actors and make an excuse on why. They should have put Ghost in the Shell in New York and say it is the American version. Same with Death Note winking at fans by having some of it in Japan. But that's besides the point. [/rant] |
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Post by miike80 on Jan 3, 2018 9:50:46 GMT
While i like Jodie Foster, i don't agree with her statement. People should be allowed to have fun at the movies.Sure, if we only had fun blockbuster movies a discussion about the state of cinema could be made, but we have all sorts of movies to choose from. I like comic-book movies but they extremely rarely make my top 10 of the year
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 3, 2018 11:24:49 GMT
Well yeah, because of all the range he showed playing cowboys and Dirty Harry. Eastwood is an extremely talented director, but let's face it, as an actor he's always been very limited. Though he'd probably do well in a Punisher-type property. He would make for a great elderly Frank Castle! Imagine a Punisher film in a similar style of Logan. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 19:13:43 GMT
While I enjoy SOME of the MCU films (and can't blame Mr Gunn for sticking up for them) , they are hardly "thought provoking" lol.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 3, 2018 19:20:24 GMT
While I enjoy SOME of the MCU films (and can't blame Mr Gunn for sticking up for them) , they are hardly "thought provoking" lol. I don't think Mr. Gunn explicitly stated that Marvel films are thought provoking. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Jan 3, 2018 19:51:32 GMT
Though he'd probably do well in a Punisher-type property. He would make for a great elderly Frank Castle! Imagine a Punisher film in a similar style of Logan. Holy crap I just thought of this same thing the other day! I was thinking it would be cool to make sort of an Old Man Castle type movie with an Eastwood type playing Castle. |
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