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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 2, 2018 22:50:28 GMT
Was there any scenes you like? I personally loved the sunset scene where Luke dies peacefully |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 2, 2018 22:56:58 GMT
Was there any scenes you like? I personally loved the sunset scene where Luke dies peacefully That scene is ruined by the fact that Luke dies... and that he dies of exertion no less. wtf
I liked lots of stuff in the movie. LOTS! Its just that almost everything I liked in it is then undone by something else. For example: Luke surviving that barrage of laser fire is awesome! Until we find out he survived because he wasn't there! And still somehow he dies from it! WTF! |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 2, 2018 23:06:02 GMT
Was there any scenes you like? I personally loved the sunset scene where Luke dies peacefully That scene is ruined by the fact that Luke dies... and that he dies of exertion no less. wtf
to be fair, this is at least subtly set up in the dialogue before: Namely when Kylo states that Rey cannot be behind their sweet little Force connection thing as it would kill her. So, it may be against lore that someone dies of Force exhaustion, but the film explained it at least. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 23:13:25 GMT
Honestly, not many scenes that I didn't despise. The only ones I can think of:
- Snoke flattens Hux
- Chewbacca almost eats a Porg (the one bit of comedy that actually worked in the movie)
- Luke steps into the Falcon
- Luke reunites with R2
As I've said before, this movie nailed it when it came to costuming (Leia looked great after looking terrible in TFA), cinematography (the blood red salt getting kicked up on Crait was brilliant) and color (Kylo's Tie Interceptor attack scene was more vibrant/beautiful than space battles in previous films). I thought Snoke's throne room looked great. But even the good things I've just listed were mostly ruined by terrible writing/dialogue/character development within those scenes. I didn't even really like Luke/Leia's reunion scene and even though I liked the idea of Luke seeing twin suns when he died, I was so off put by the fact that he was dying from Force Stroke that it was ruined for me.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 2, 2018 23:45:57 GMT
I expected worse after following the backlash. I liked:
- The bomber attack (despite it being very silly with Poe's omnipotence, gravity bombing, just-blow-and-I-blow-up bombers etc)
- Kennedy, what an old slime (was that a stab at Kathleen?)
- Hamill was good
- Luke on the island scenes - though underdeveloped and underwritten - and sans the out of character Yoda cameo
- Rey, Kylo, Fin are less annoying overall
- The hyperspace ram attack - though creating a logic hole
- Luke facing Kylo (the scoring was great too)
- Lukes death - though where did the second sun come from suddenly?
- The cinematography was an improvement over TFA with it's needless lensflares, red/blue/green color lightning (especially inside the Falcon scenes) and color grading. But inferior to R1 IMO.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 3, 2018 1:00:45 GMT
Uhmm... I'm kinda with Lenlenlen1 on this one. Every single scene I think I like is immediately followed by a scene that completely ruins it. Like, I liked the scene where Leia dies in space, because I go "Oh, I guess that's how they wrote her off the movie. Well done exit." Which they then ruin by reviving her.
The first space fight would have been awesome... if not for the utter ridiculousness of a single fighter being able to take out all the defenses of a destroyer.
I was intrigued at the dark hole in the island that sucked Rey in. Finally, I thought we were about to see what drove Kylo bad. Then all we see are mirror reflections of Rey. Yeah... bummer.
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Post by alpha128 on Jan 3, 2018 2:33:08 GMT
I hated the movie overall. However I liked the battle with Kylo and Rey against the Elite Praetorian Guard. The Emperor's Royal Guard in "Return of the Jedi" didn't really do anything except stand around and look cool. The Praetorian Guard in the movie made me think, "OK, I can tell why you're the elite guard."
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 3, 2018 3:15:48 GMT
The Rey and Kylo vs. Praetorian Guard scene was incredible.
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Post by audiosane on Jan 3, 2018 4:06:54 GMT
Was there any scenes you like? I personally loved the sunset scene where Luke dies peacefully It was a beautiful and touching scene... that, unfortunately, was a heavy rehash: - Luke and the twin suns from ANH - Obi-Wan's body disappearing after a confrontation with the main villain from ANH - Yoda dying peacefully in his 2nd film of the trilogy from ROTJ |
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Post by audiosane on Jan 3, 2018 4:09:15 GMT
The Rey and Kylo vs. Praetorian Guard scene was incredible. Would it have been better if Rey and Kylo Ren were fighting the Knights of Ren? At least they had a bit more setup. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 3, 2018 4:21:29 GMT
The Rey and Kylo vs. Praetorian Guard scene was incredible. I don't know man. The fight choreography for that was pretty bad. I mean, better than any in the original trilogy and at least not as stupidly flashy as some of the prequel trilogy, but compared to modern action films it was still pretty clunky. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 3, 2018 6:24:32 GMT
The Rey and Kylo vs. Praetorian Guard scene was incredible. Would it have been better if Rey and Kylo Ren were fighting the Knights of Ren? At least they had a bit more setup. Sure. I mean, as long as it was just as well-staged and choreographed. It does make a little more sense as well. They mentioned them in TFA, so why not use them? |
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Post by shinnickneth on Jan 3, 2018 7:00:43 GMT
- Chewbacca almost eats a Porg (the one bit of comedy that actually worked in the movie) The Porgs didn't serve any purpose to the story though.  At least with the Jawas, Ewoks, and even the Gungans, they impacted the story. Hell, even Maz contributed to the story in Episode 7. |
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Post by shinnickneth on Jan 3, 2018 7:02:15 GMT
That scene is ruined by the fact that Luke dies... and that he dies of exertion no less. wtf
I liked lots of stuff in the movie. LOTS! Its just that almost everything I liked in it is then undone by something else. For example: Luke surviving that barrage of laser fire is awesome! Until we find out he survived because he wasn't there! And still somehow he dies from it! WTF! He forgot that holograms exist?  |
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Post by shinnickneth on Jan 3, 2018 7:13:04 GMT
- The space battle was good
- Luke and Leia together. It's the only scene where Luke is portrayed correctly
- Leia slapping Poe and telling him he's demoted. It made me smile because I know that had to be Carrie's idea. Also, it's a far cry from what her daddy would do to subordinates...
- Appearance of Leia's classic hologram (even though it was forced for authentic Luke would never need convincing to save his friends)
- Rey and Kylo together turned out to be the only strong storyline of the episode
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Post by audiosane on Jan 3, 2018 7:18:57 GMT
Would it have been better if Rey and Kylo Ren were fighting the Knights of Ren? At least they had a bit more setup. Sure. I mean, as long as it was just as well-staged and choreographed. It does make a little more sense as well. They mentioned them in TFA, so why not use them? Hmm... which reminds me... ;B  |
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Post by miike80 on Jan 3, 2018 7:26:47 GMT
Sure. I mean, as long as it was just as well-staged and choreographed. It does make a little more sense as well. They mentioned them in TFA, so why not use them? Hmm... which reminds me... ;B Man, i was so excited when i heard that the guys from the Raid would be in TFA. And then i saw the movie and they were only in that stupid scene... |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 3, 2018 7:27:31 GMT
The Rey and Kylo vs. Praetorian Guard scene was incredible. I don't know man. The fight choreography for that was pretty bad. I mean, better than any in the original trilogy and at least not as stupidly flashy as some of the prequel trilogy, but compared to modern action films it was still pretty clunky. I thought it was pretty good. I think it helps to know that Rian Johnson was aiming for a Samurai-feel instead of a knight-feel like the previous 7 movies. It feels different, but I still liked it. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 3, 2018 7:49:43 GMT
I don't know man. The fight choreography for that was pretty bad. I mean, better than any in the original trilogy and at least not as stupidly flashy as some of the prequel trilogy, but compared to modern action films it was still pretty clunky. I thought it was pretty good. I think it helps to know that Rian Johnson was aiming for a Samurai-feel instead of a knight-feel like the previous 7 movies. It feels different, but I still liked it. I'm pretty sure none of the old choreographies ever had a "knight feel" to them. The original trilogy had more of a Samurai feel to them, I recognized a bunch of kendo moves. The prequel had more xma, wushu, hollywood ninja stamped all over it. This latest trilogy had choreography that was more brawl-like. Lots of heavy, unrefined movement. Not exactly what you'd expect from jedis wielding light sabers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 14:55:13 GMT
- Chewbacca almost eats a Porg (the one bit of comedy that actually worked in the movie) The Porgs didn't serve any purpose to the story though. At least with the Jawas, Ewoks, and even the Gungans, they impacted the story. Hell, even Maz contributed to the story in Episode 7. Sure, but listen, I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here. I went through the entire movie and tried to think of any scene that didn't contain some component that ruined said scene. If this had been a decent SW movie, it would be a little easier. In fact, it's precisely because the Porgs have no purpose in the story that I was able to enjoy the scene, because any scene that had any real impact sucked. |
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