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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 7, 2018 23:21:23 GMT
Luke’s death. By saving Finn because she was in love with him, Rose left it to Luke to step up and create a diversion for the Resistance.
That was like Jar Jar giving power to Palpatine in the senate. She should get no lines in the next film. Give her the Jar Jar special.
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Post by audiosane on Jan 7, 2018 23:46:46 GMT
By saving Finn because she was in love with him, Rose left it to Luke to step up and create a diversion for the Resistance. That was like Jar Jar giving power to Palpatine in the senate. She should get no lines in the next film. Give her the Jar Jar special. Jar Jar gave power to Palpatine in the Senate. Leia got Han killed by asking him to bring their murderous unstable son home to the Resistance, where they surely would've had him executed for war crimes. Rose got Luke killed because she stopped Finn from destroying the mini canon. Her message to him about fighting for what he loved, not who he hated, made no sense since that's what Finn was doing. Also, that's exactly what Holdo did shortly before. |
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Post by darkpast on Jan 8, 2018 0:21:16 GMT
Luke is responsible for his own death, for failing to kill Ben before becoming Supreme Leader Kylo Ren
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 8, 2018 5:33:11 GMT
Her message to him about fighting for what he loved, not who he hated, made no sense since that's what Finn was doing. Also, that's exactly what Holdo did shortly before. That line goes down as the worst in Star Wars history. |
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jan 8, 2018 9:44:10 GMT
Well, Rose was not the brightest kyber cristal, I give you that.
I mean she seemed to have a lot of issues, but her preventing Finn's sacrifice for selfish reasons thereby nearly killing both of them and dooming the surviving rebels (and indirectly killing Luke) was beyond stupid. Rose even used the distraction of the blowing-up rebel base to surprise-kiss Finn and dispense her fortune cookie wisdom.
Obviously, she did not want to lose somebody else after her sister sacrificed herself. It's her arc I guess. One of the weirdest scenes in Star Wars.
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Post by ryboto on Jan 8, 2018 12:56:34 GMT
Well, Rose was not the brightest kyber cristal, I give you that.
I mean she seemed to have a lot of issues, but her preventing Finn's sacrifice for selfish reasons thereby nearly killing both of them and dooming the surviving rebels (and indirectly killing Luke) was beyond stupid. Rose even used the distraction of the blowing-up rebel base to surprise-kiss Finn and dispense her fortune cookie wisdom.
Obviously, she did not want to lose somebody else after her sister sacrificed herself. It's her arc I guess. One of the weirdest scenes in Star Wars.
Isn't it just that Rian wanted to kill Luke via sacrifice so he had to find a cotrived way to do it? |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 8, 2018 13:04:15 GMT
Honestly that's pretty much what always happens through out the Star Wars mythology.
There was tons of books, video games, comic books and etcetera that featured characters similar to rose who either got someone killed or other horrible shit.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jan 8, 2018 13:06:51 GMT
Thank you for including spoilers in your thread titles. I really appreciate it.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jan 8, 2018 13:09:01 GMT
Well, Rose was not the brightest kyber cristal, I give you that.
I mean she seemed to have a lot of issues, but her preventing Finn's sacrifice for selfish reasons thereby nearly killing both of them and dooming the surviving rebels (and indirectly killing Luke) was beyond stupid. Rose even used the distraction of the blowing-up rebel base to surprise-kiss Finn and dispense her fortune cookie wisdom.
Obviously, she did not want to lose somebody else after her sister sacrificed herself. It's her arc I guess. One of the weirdest scenes in Star Wars.
Isn't it just that Rian wanted to kill Luke via sacrifice so he had to find a cotrived way to do it? Sure in the end it's about the writing. Very contrived writing.
And for what. I mean Luke's last heroic deed is that he stalls the Empire for a few minutes but without informing anybody to use that time properly, and without knowing if there is a backdoor at all, and without knowing that anybody is picking them up back there - and they potentially run on food like chicken without vehicles through the salt untill they get caught or killed (like the horses they set free). Good that there is always a Rey who can lift mountains of stone untrained and is there just at the right second...
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 8, 2018 14:07:54 GMT
Thank you for including spoilers in your thread titles. I really appreciate it. Sorry. I have fixed it. |
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Post by Nightman on Jan 8, 2018 16:38:56 GMT
Thank you for including spoilers in your thread titles. I really appreciate it. The movie came out last year. There were no spoilers. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 8, 2018 20:21:14 GMT
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Post by audiosane on Jan 9, 2018 6:09:37 GMT
Her message to him about fighting for what he loved, not who he hated, made no sense since that's what Finn was doing. Also, that's exactly what Holdo did shortly before. That line goes down as the worst in Star Wars history.   ROSE: Hold my taser. Wait, never mind, lol. *ZzZzap!*  |
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Post by audiosane on Jan 9, 2018 6:30:22 GMT
Well, Rose was not the brightest kyber cristal, I give you that.
I mean she seemed to have a lot of issues, but her preventing Finn's sacrifice for selfish reasons thereby nearly killing both of them and dooming the surviving rebels (and indirectly killing Luke) was beyond stupid. Rose even used the distraction of the blowing-up rebel base to surprise-kiss Finn and dispense her fortune cookie wisdom.
Obviously, she did not want to lose somebody else after her sister sacrificed herself. It's her arc I guess. One of the weirdest scenes in Star Wars.
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Post by audiosane on Jan 9, 2018 6:37:09 GMT
Luke is responsible for his own death, for failing to kill Ben before becoming Supreme Leader Kylo Ren Han is responsible for his own death by being stupid enough to try to bring his murderous, emotionally unstable son home. Leia is responsible for her death... Wait. Never mind, that "worked out", I guess... ?  Luke is responsible for his death by not using Energizer batteries. Lando is still alive because he was using the bathroom that one time they were thinking about *maybe* calling him. |
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Post by mcufan on Jan 9, 2018 13:17:29 GMT
Luke’s death. By saving Finn because she was in love with him, Rose left it to Luke to step up and create a diversion for the Resistance. That was like Jar Jar giving power to Palpatine in the senate. She should get no lines in the next film. Give her the Jar Jar special. Takes saddle from Luke's back. "now it was worth it" |
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Post by audiosane on Jan 9, 2018 23:36:02 GMT
Luke’s death. By saving Finn because she was in love with him, Rose left it to Luke to step up and create a diversion for the Resistance. That was like Jar Jar giving power to Palpatine in the senate. She should get no lines in the next film. Give her the Jar Jar special. How perfect. She should just shut the fuck up for Leia's funeral scene before Poe takes over. Fans demanded more Poe+Finn time. No one asked for Rose.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 23:51:47 GMT
Her message to him about fighting for what he loved, not who he hated, made no sense since that's what Finn was doing. Also, that's exactly what Holdo did shortly before. That line goes down as the worst in Star Wars history. I personally believe it's one of the best lines, but placed after the stupidest non sequitur act to back it up. The line describes Luke and Vader's actions to each other at the end of the OT. If she had stopped Finn in a similar fashion somehow in his showdown with Phasma, it would have worked wondrously. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 10, 2018 0:31:15 GMT
Luke’s death. By saving Finn because she was in love with him, Rose left it to Luke to step up and create a diversion for the Resistance. That was like Jar Jar giving power to Palpatine in the senate. She should get no lines in the next film. Give her the Jar Jar special. So you're saying that Luke would NOT have shown up if not for that event?
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in a thread about stupid things. He was ALWAYS going to come to their aid whether or not that happened.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 10, 2018 8:14:10 GMT
Luke’s death. By saving Finn because she was in love with him, Rose left it to Luke to step up and create a diversion for the Resistance. That was like Jar Jar giving power to Palpatine in the senate. She should get no lines in the next film. Give her the Jar Jar special. So you're saying that Luke would NOT have shown up if not for that event?
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in a thread about stupid things. He was ALWAYS going to come to their aid whether or not that happened.
No, that’s not what I was saying. But the necessity to distract Kylo and the First Order would not have been so pressing had the gates maintained their integrity. Poe certainly thought that Luke was creating a distraction. Now calm down. Don’t get excited. I apologise if I insulted your precious Rose. |
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