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Post by snsurone on Jan 10, 2018 22:41:27 GMT
When two men fight one another, it's with powerful closed fists that can inflict serious injury, as well as a great deal of property damage.
Or they will clobber someone with a bottle or gun butt.
On the other hand, when two women fight one another, it's limited to clawing, hair-pulling, open-handed slaps, and a lot of rolling around, but little actual physical injury.
Just embarrasment and loss of dignity, LOL.
Probably the most famous "cat fight" in film history is the one between Marlene Dietrich and Una Merkel in DESTRY RIDES AGAIN.
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 10, 2018 22:49:33 GMT
And when women fought with men, they were totally ineffectual. This from Lauren Bacall in "Key Largo," shown in front of a largely college age audience back in the 1970s, got a laugh. Today Charlize Theron or Noomi Rapace would have knocked Eddie G. Robinson through a wall.
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Post by snsurone on Jan 10, 2018 23:40:25 GMT
Yes, the ladies you mentioned probably would have clobbered Eddie G.
But could they hold their own against younger, more fit actors?
Let's be honest, women are generally physically weaker than men.
That's why they have to use their brains to defeat their male enemies.
Or, in older movies, the big, brave hero had to save them. ):-P
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Post by politicidal on Jan 11, 2018 3:44:06 GMT
Remember this movie by chance?  The director had this to say about the cliche: Culturally, we think of the catfight as bikini-clad bimbos slapping each other around and wrestling. They're sexualized and devalued. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 9:12:58 GMT
Beatrix Kiddo and O-Ren Ishii sword-fighting in Kill Bill Vol. 1
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 11, 2018 9:30:19 GMT
Pam Grier in the Big Doll House.
Not sure who she was fighting but it was down and dirty in the mud of the Philippines.
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Post by snsurone on Jan 11, 2018 13:37:59 GMT
And there's BLACK MAMA, WHITE MAMA, a female version of THE DEFIANT ONES.
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Post by mattgarth on Jan 11, 2018 13:53:01 GMT
From an earlier era:
GO WEST YOUNG LADY (1941) -- Penny Singleton and Ann Miller get it on over Glenn Ford's affections.
RAILROADED (1947) -- Sheila Ryan and Jane Randolph duke it out while a turned-on John Ireland watches from the shadows.
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Post by snsurone on Jan 11, 2018 14:12:47 GMT
Notice that when two women fight, it's usually over a man.
Men fight for more material reasons, like land or water rights, location of stolen money, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 18:12:21 GMT
Hero (2012) 
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Post by teleadm on Jan 11, 2018 18:19:26 GMT
 Warner Bros took advantage of the published fights between Bette Davis and Miriam Hopkins during the making of Old Acquaintance 1943, that they took this photo as a publicity stunt, in the movie the fighting is mostly verbal until Bette shakes up Miriam near the end. |
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 11, 2018 19:13:40 GMT
Since we are also using modern fighting women as examples (see also the excellent scene between Maggie Cheung and Ziyi Zhang, posted by JulieKohler, above), here is my favorite female martial artist, JeeJa Yanin. Yanin, from Thailand, demonstrates Taekwondo, the Thai national martial art Muay Thai, and a bit of Drunken Boxing. She faces off against bodybuilding and fitness champion Roongtawan Jindasing, playing the head of an evil gang in her movie acting debut. This is the final fight in 2009’s Deu suay doo (Raging Phoenix)
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 11, 2018 19:16:45 GMT
Million Dollar Baby  don't ever tell her "You fight like a girl!" |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 11, 2018 19:23:51 GMT
"If you're the type of person who ever thought, "Man, I wish there was a movie filled with attractive women beating the s*** out of each other," well, Raze has come along to answer your prayers...." imo Raze = ugh ! |
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Post by claudius on Jan 11, 2018 20:45:01 GMT
Blanche Yurka and Edna Mae Oliver in 1935's A TALE OF TWO CITIES (Yurka's Madame deFarge wants to arrest Elizabeth Allan and her child so they can get guillotined. Oliver's governess Miss Pross fights her to the death).
Raquel Welch and Faye Dunaway in 1974's THE THREE MUSKETEERS (Welch's Constance is trying to recover a packet of diamonds from Dunaway's Milady).
Halle Berry and Rosamund Pike in 2001's DIE ANOTHER DAY (Berry's Jinx fights Pike's Frost to stop a baddie's sun-blasting ship from causing destruction).
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 11, 2018 20:55:21 GMT
And there's BLACK MAMA, WHITE MAMA, a female version of THE DEFIANT ONES. BM,WM When two troublemaking female prisoners (one a revolutionary, the other a former harem-girl) can't seem to get along, they are chained together and extradited for safekeeping. The women, still chained together, stumble, stab, and cat-fight their way across the wilderness, igniting a bloody shootout between gangsters and a group of revolutionaries.
TDO Two escaped convicts chained together, white and black, must learn to get along in order to elude capture.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jan 11, 2018 21:15:25 GMT
Warner Bros took advantage of the published fights between Bette Davis and Miriam Hopkins during the making of Old Acquaintance 1943, that they took this photo as a publicity stunt, in the movie the fighting is mostly verbal until Bette shakes up Miriam near the end. If you'll permit, teleadm, this photo was actually staged for 1939's The Old Maid. The supposed Bette/Miriam feud had been simmering for some time by 1943. Perhaps with that nice "shaking" clip, WB didn't feel they needed to gild the lily. |
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Post by snsurone on Jan 11, 2018 21:33:09 GMT
Of course, nowadays, with women learning pugilism and martial arts, fighting has devolved into something that would not be considered "ladylike" during Hollywood's Golden Age.
But that might be a good thing, as now women can defend themselves rather than depending on men to "rescue" them.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 11, 2018 21:56:31 GMT
Remember this movie by chance? The director had this to say about the cliche: Culturally, we think of the catfight as bikini-clad bimbos slapping each other around and wrestling. They're sexualized and devalued.The fight scenes in that movie were quite good, if a bit over the top. But the movie itself fails in whatever half-baked political message it was trying to send. |
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Post by snsurone on Jan 12, 2018 14:23:18 GMT
Blanche Yurka and Edna Mae Oliver in 1935's A TALE OF TWO CITIES (Yurka's Madame deFarge wants to arrest Elizabeth Allan and her child so they can get guillotined. Oliver's governess Miss Pross fights her to the death). Raquel Welch and Faye Dunaway in 1974's THE THREE MUSKETEERS (Welch's Constance is trying to recover a packet of diamonds from Dunaway's Milady). Halle Berry and Rosamund Pike in 2001's DIE ANOTHER DAY (Berry's Jinx fights Pike's Frost to stop a baddie's sun-blasting ship from causing destruction). Are there any other examples of women fighting each other in the James Bond movies? |
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