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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 14, 2018 17:53:58 GMT
I addressed that in the OP. Where? |
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Post by redpyramidthing on Jan 14, 2018 18:02:21 GMT
Because honestly, as much as I love Conan, it's not a hot property (it never was really) and last time it took 27 years to try again after the disappointing Destroyer. Arnold tried to do King Conan and it's dead in the water. I don't hold much hope... You are wrong about Conan not ever being a hot property - the original stories sold fairly well when they were published and were constantly being repackaged in newer additions, and after Robert E. Howard's death other writers stepped in to keep the character's popularity afloat. I mean, the character was at least popular enough to be requested as a Marvel title, and it proved to be a VERY popular title from the Marvel library in the 70's - Enough to gain interest from film producers to make a movie at least. The character is not as popular as he once was, this is true, but he's still around, and really if we want to talk about not-so-hot properties being brought to the big or little screen Guardians was definitely not a hot property when it was being made into a film now look at it. Yeah, I was talking about movies. My bad. I'm aware that books and comics were popular once (fortunately). Yes Guardians weren't hot, but were a (movies) virgin territory. They didn't have a string of flops behind them. Conan on the other hand was good only the first time around (and we already acknowledged that the 1982 movie was Conan in name only) and probably not good enough to warrant a sequel if it was made in today's climate. Usually reboots of failed movies don't do so well, so I'm still not holding my breath. On the other hand they could try with a show, but I dunno. Probably Conan is totally wrong for the times we are living in. And honestly it should be as much family unfriendly as possibile, so I don't see much money to be made. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 14, 2018 22:35:38 GMT
soooooo.... they still don't have the rights then? |
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 14, 2018 23:19:27 GMT
soooooo.... they still don't have the rights then? This is an odd duck. In practice, most of the Conan stories exist in at least two versions subject to different copyright standards: The original Weird Tales publications before or shortly after Howard's death, which are generally understood to be public domain, and "restored" versions based on manuscripts that were unpublished in Howard's lifetime. but SLMI sued Paradox Entertainment back in 2011 and lost. So Paradox has the rights. Fredrik Malmberg's new company Cabinet Entertainment has (thru Cabinet Holdings) acquired Paradox Entertainment Inc. and all subsidiaries and their properties, including the Robert E. Howard properties Conan, Kull, and Solomon Kane, as well as the original Target/Paradox properties Mutant Chronicles/Warzone, Kult, Chronopia, and Mutant. Purchase price for all shares in PEINC amounts to $7 million in cash. So unless Marvel's purchased the Movie rights along with the Comic Book rights Cabinet Entertainment has those rights. Unless Marvel makes movies off of the stories that are under Public Domain, but anybody could make those you or me could make a movie if it's in the Public Domain. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 15, 2018 0:30:40 GMT
They will probably make him a tranny.
Conan was a traditional heroic guy character--just the type Disney detests. He's strong, independent, successful without multicultural sidekicks.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 15, 2018 1:53:00 GMT
They will probably make him a tranny. Conan was a traditional heroic guy character--just the type Disney detests. He's strong, independent, successful without multicultural sidekicks. He was a fairly flat archetypal barbarian hero, all things considered. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 15, 2018 2:00:16 GMT
He was a fairly flat archetypal barbarian hero, all things considered. But that is why he was popular. He wasn't neurotic or unsure of himself. Didnt have to reconcile with Dad etc. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 15, 2018 2:57:10 GMT
He was a fairly flat archetypal barbarian hero, all things considered. But that is why he was popular. For his time. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 15, 2018 3:02:09 GMT
Yet he had his debut in 1930 but was Marvel's most popular character by 1970. Doc Savage also enjoyed a revival decades later. I bet if they made a Conan without the forced SJW themes it would have zero negative impact on popularity. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 15, 2018 5:41:36 GMT
Yet he had his debut in 1930 but was Marvel's most popular character by 1970. Doc Savage also enjoyed a revival decades later. I bet if they made a Conan without the forced SJW themes it would have zero negative impact on popularity. Didn't the author even way back when had to clarify some unpopular things. I believe he had to come out and say that not all the black tribes were cannibals. The first tribes we meet of black people they were cannibals. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 15, 2018 5:53:21 GMT
Didn't the author even way back when had to clarify some unpopular things. I believe he had to come out and say that not all the black tribes were cannibals. The first tribes we meet of black people they were cannibals. He had Conan meet an African ally at some point I believe though I may have it confused with one of his other characters.. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 15, 2018 5:59:28 GMT
Didn't the author even way back when had to clarify some unpopular things. I believe he had to come out and say that not all the black tribes were cannibals. The first tribes we meet of black people they were cannibals. He had Conan meet an African ally at some point I believe though I may have it confused with one of his other characters.. Pretty sure you are right on meeting an ally. I know there were cannibals. I'm just kinda foggy on if there was a hubbub about them and he had to come out and clarify. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 15, 2018 11:57:42 GMT
Yet he had his debut in 1930 but was Marvel's most popular character by 1970. Doc Savage also enjoyed a revival decades later. I bet if they made a Conan without the forced SJW themes it would have zero negative impact on popularity. 1970 wasn't a terribly tolerant time either. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 15, 2018 15:50:25 GMT
1970 wasn't a terribly tolerant time either. What decade is? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 15, 2018 21:18:39 GMT
1970 wasn't a terribly tolerant time either. What decade is? None so far, but we're a LITTLE bit better these days. A little. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 15, 2018 21:22:53 GMT
None so far, but we're a LITTLE bit better these days. A little. Ha I can just sense the enthusiasm in your convictions. Let me get my rainbow flag.... |
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