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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 13, 2018 5:29:16 GMT
Marvel has now regained the comic book rights to the character and will be publishing a book next year, which would make the possibility of developing a movie or TV series less to no such hurdle to overcome if it proves to be a major selling title.
The original Marvel run of Conan The Barbarian, especially written by comics legend Roy Thomas, were some of the best Conan stories ever written outside of the original source material penned by Robert E. Howard, they also created a solid continuity that bridged the gap between all of Howard's stories( which were not made out to begin from point A to point B) and expanded the mythology. The comics were also canon with the Marvel universe's prehistory, and worked quite nicely while still being a stand alone title.
I'd be all for a Conan reboot in the MCU, as either a movie or TV series. It would add even more variety to the MCU and assuming the comic rights go back to Marvel we could eventually see Red Sonja down the road.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 14, 2018 0:01:35 GMT
I think a television series is the way to go these days. Something like GoT or Spartacus.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 14, 2018 0:13:13 GMT
Crooommm!
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 14, 2018 0:42:43 GMT
Conan vs Thor in Thor 4?
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Post by politicidal on Jan 14, 2018 1:05:50 GMT
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 14, 2018 2:39:16 GMT
I think a television series is the way to go these days. Something like GoT or Spartacus. That'd be the way to go, absolutely. Have it be big, lavish, cinematic, and take no prisoners in its delivery. Only suggestions I'd have for a TV series is to keep episode order down to seven or eight and maybe have the same director on board for the whole season like some shows have done in the past like the first season of True Detective. It could be a huge title for Disney's new streaming platform.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 14, 2018 2:40:38 GMT
Definitely wouldn't be against a flashback where Thor recounts crossing paths with a certain Cimmerian who stood his ground when going toe-to-toe with some nasty giants!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 6:14:45 GMT
It would add even more variety to the MCU and assuming the comic rights go back to Marvel we could eventually see Red Sonja down the road. Thanks for sharing that but the latter is highly unlikely. Red Sonja is no longer a ‘Conan the Barbarian’ character or owned by Conan Properties International and Paradox Entertainment and is officially owned by ‘Red Sonja LLC’ and licensed to the comic book company, Dynamite Entertainment who are currently publishing her latest comic book series by Amy Chu and have a new ‘Legendary Red Sonja’ series on the way. One thing you should know about ‘Red Sonja’ is while she was loosely based on Robert E Howard’s Red Sonya of Rogatino from ‘the Shadow of the Vulture’ in 1934 and Dark Agnes De Chastillon the ‘Red Sonja’ character with a ‘J’ was created by Roy Thomas and Barry Windsor Smith in the 1970s. The rights for Red Sonja were separated after her big comeback in the 00s which saw the character reborn under Dynamite Entertainment with a new origin story (which got rid of all the sexist elements under the guidance of Gail Simone) and new look and thanks to the success of the Gail Simone Red Sonja has gone on to become one of the biggest selling female comic book characters of all time making her one of the most successful spinoff characters of all time and one of the few to outsell the series she debuted in. 'Red Sonja' is also not owned by the estate of Robert E Howard or even affiliated to Conan Properties International or Paradox Entertainment and has a higher estimated value than all three and thanks to a court case back in 2008 'Red Sonja LLC' also own the rights to the 'Red Sonya' character with a Y. To quote. rehtwogunraconteur.com/settlement-in-red-sonya-v-red-sonja-lawsuit/ 'Red Sonja' has a new movie in development now which was recently revealed to being fast tracked for a 2020 release due to the success of 'Wonder Woman' and a new video game by Gail Simone. That being said I am looking forward to seeing what Marvel do with Conan.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 14, 2018 6:22:27 GMT
They don't own the movie rights.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 14, 2018 8:17:46 GMT
They don't own the movie rights. I addressed that in the OP.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 14, 2018 8:20:21 GMT
It would add even more variety to the MCU and assuming the comic rights go back to Marvel we could eventually see Red Sonja down the road. Thanks for sharing that but the latter is highly unlikely. Red Sonja is no longer a ‘Conan the Barbarian’ character or owned by Conan Properties International and Paradox Entertainment and is officially owned by ‘Red Sonja LLC’ and licensed to the comic book company, Dynamite Entertainment who are currently publishing her latest comic book series by Amy Chu and have a new ‘Legendary Red Sonja’ series on the way. One thing you should know about ‘Red Sonja’ is while she was loosely based on Robert E Howard’s Red Sonya of Rogatino from ‘the Shadow of the Vulture’ in 1934 and Dark Agnes De Chastillon the ‘Red Sonja’ character with a ‘J’ was created by Roy Thomas and Barry Windsor Smith in the 1970s. The rights for Red Sonja were separated after her big comeback in the 00s which saw the character reborn under Dynamite Entertainment with a new origin story (which got rid of all the sexist elements under the guidance of Gail Simone) and new look and thanks to the success of the Gail Simone Red Sonja has gone on to become one of the biggest selling female comic book characters of all time making her one of the most successful spinoff characters of all time and one of the few to outsell the series she debuted in. 'Red Sonja' is also not owned by the estate of Robert E Howard or even affiliated to Conan Properties International or Paradox Entertainment and has a higher estimated value than all three and thanks to a court case back in 2008 'Red Sonja LLC' also own the rights to the 'Red Sonya' character with a Y. To quote. rehtwogunraconteur.com/settlement-in-red-sonya-v-red-sonja-lawsuit/ 'Red Sonja' has a new movie in development now which was recently revealed to being fast tracked for a 2020 release due to the success of 'Wonder Woman' and a new video game by Gail Simone. That being said I am looking forward to seeing what Marvel do with Conan. I get that, I'm just saying anything is possible.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 14, 2018 11:40:31 GMT
The ‘82 film is magnificent. It can’t be beaten. But at the least they should keep the soundtrack if a film or tv series is made.
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Post by redpyramidthing on Jan 14, 2018 13:23:04 GMT
The ‘82 film is magnificent. It can’t be beaten. But at the least they should keep the soundtrack if a film or tv series is made. I love the 1982 movie. It's a great fantasy film, but, to be fair, a really poor Conan adaptation. Also, Poledouris' soundtrack is still awesome and the best fantasy score to date, but I wouldn't like to have it recycled. Having said that, I think that the last Conan killed any chance to have a new movie or series made in the short/medium term.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 14, 2018 13:49:06 GMT
The ‘82 film is magnificent. It can’t be beaten. But at the least they should keep the soundtrack if a film or tv series is made. I love the 1982 movie. It's a great fantasy film, but, to be fair, a really poor Conan adaptation. Also, Poledouris' soundtrack is still awesome and the best fantasy score to date, but I wouldn't like to have it recycled. Having said that, I think that the last Conan killed any chance to have a new movie or series made in the short/medium term. Eh, it's been 7 years. Why not try again?
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Post by ThatGuy on Jan 14, 2018 14:35:27 GMT
I'd rather see Thor vs Hercules. Heard an awesome idea for that. I think Conan should be its own thing. In a high fantasy world. Maybe add in some other Marvel players that would fit into that world. I don't want to see another Masters of the Universe movie with Conan on our Earth.
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Post by redpyramidthing on Jan 14, 2018 15:09:42 GMT
I love the 1982 movie. It's a great fantasy film, but, to be fair, a really poor Conan adaptation. Also, Poledouris' soundtrack is still awesome and the best fantasy score to date, but I wouldn't like to have it recycled. Having said that, I think that the last Conan killed any chance to have a new movie or series made in the short/medium term. Eh, it's been 7 years. Why not try again? Because honestly, as much as I love Conan, it's not a hot property (it never was really) and last time it took 27 years to try again after the disappointing Destroyer. Arnold tried to do King Conan and it's dead in the water. I don't hold much hope...
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 14, 2018 16:46:52 GMT
The ‘82 film is magnificent. It can’t be beaten. But at the least they should keep the soundtrack if a film or tv series is made. I love the 1982 movie. It's a great fantasy film, but, to be fair, a really poor Conan adaptation. Also, Poledouris' soundtrack is still awesome and the best fantasy score to date, but I wouldn't like to have it recycled. Having said that, I think that the last Conan killed any chance to have a new movie or series made in the short/medium term. You are correct, the 1982 film is a great fantasy film in its own right, but it's a terrible representation of what the character should be. Conan is not a man of few words, he does not and cannot pray to Crom( Otherwise Crom sends doom), he is very cunning, has raven-colored hair, has striking blue eyes, and he can handle himself quite well in combat without any aid. Hell, Arnold's Conan isn't even a real barbarian, he is a freed slave who was taught how to read, write, behave, and fight from civilization. Conan in the original source material learned everything he did on his own or from his own circle of people and he was slicing and dicing demons and stealing riches in his teens. The literary Conan definitely would not have spun a wheel around for God knows how many years because some older people told him to, he'd have planned an escape and left a mess along the way the day he was sold - if the trip over was not a bumpy one. In fact, I'd argue Arnold was a more accurate Mr. Freeze than he was as Conan, he was just in a better movie. I honestly don't think that many remember 2011's Conan movie with Jason Momoa - Movie flopped hard and the marketing for it was just terrible. Plus it's been a while, and we've seen reboots happen in a lot shorter a time frame.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 14, 2018 16:55:55 GMT
Eh, it's been 7 years. Why not try again? Because honestly, as much as I love Conan, it's not a hot property (it never was really) and last time it took 27 years to try again after the disappointing Destroyer. Arnold tried to do King Conan and it's dead in the water. I don't hold much hope... You are wrong about Conan not ever being a hot property - the original stories sold fairly well when they were published and were constantly being repackaged in newer additions, and after Robert E. Howard's death other writers stepped in to keep the character's popularity afloat. I mean, the character was at least popular enough to be requested as a Marvel title, and it proved to be a VERY popular title from the Marvel library in the 70's - Enough to gain interest from film producers to make a movie at least. The character is not as popular as he once was, this is true, but he's still around, and really if we want to talk about not-so-hot properties being brought to the big or little screen Guardians was definitely not a hot property when it was being made into a film now look at it.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 14, 2018 17:02:42 GMT
I'd rather see Thor vs Hercules. Heard an awesome idea for that. I think Conan should be its own thing. In a high fantasy world. Maybe add in some other Marvel players that would fit into that world. I don't want to see another Masters of the Universe movie with Conan on our Earth. Yes, I think its time Hercules was seen in the MCU. In the Marvel Universe other known deities and associated figures from other mythology are big players so it would make sense to introduce them down the road. And you are also right that Conan should be his own thing, just keep him in the old world and don't pull a MOTU and bring him to contemporary times. You can have some references to him in modern times but they should be subtle ones, like a fairly old sketch or statue, or a brief anecdote from an otherwise ancient character who crossed paths with him once or twice.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 14, 2018 17:15:07 GMT
They don't own the movie rights. I addressed that in the OP. Where?
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