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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 15, 2018 23:18:21 GMT
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 15, 2018 23:29:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 2:40:15 GMT
Dang, this would be a horrible way to die.
Well, at least it gets you out in the open air.
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Post by gadreel on Jan 16, 2018 2:44:06 GMT
how did I know this thread would reference monty python in m.o5 seconds ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 16, 2018 10:22:55 GMT
how did I know this thread would reference monty python in m.o5 seconds ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Yes; Brian has spoilt it for the rest of us..
"Crucifixion? Line on the left, one cross each."
"See? Not so bad once you're up!"
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 16, 2018 10:50:51 GMT
The Persians and the Macedonians did it earlier, but the Romans adopted the customs of other peoples and could be somewhat scientific about it.
Not only was it a slow and painful way for the victim to die, it instilled fear in those who were not crucified. The message was: Don't do what this guy did or you'll end up like him.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 16, 2018 10:54:45 GMT
I've seen you post a lot of weird stuff, but this one takes the cake. Would you mind explaining what is the problem with the statement you quoted?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 16, 2018 11:45:33 GMT
I've seen you post a lot of weird stuff, but this one takes the cake. Would you mind explaining what is the problem with the statement you quoted? I don't know why that would be considered a weird post to top all weird posts. Anyway, it seems like a silly statement that someone would just make up to make Peter look more piously baller. Think of all the people, Christian and non-Christian, that were killed right side up and then this joker comes along and says "No!, I'm not good enough to be killed on trumped up charges preaching a message of peace. I want to be murdered...UPSIDE DOWN!!!" If anything, that would draw more attention to him. Plus, who the heck is Peter putting in a request for how he wants to be killed? The best way to die humbly is to not tell people how a person died, but then that creates a vacuum that stories like this fill.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 16, 2018 12:40:04 GMT
Think of all the people, Christian and non-Christian, that were killed right side up and then this joker comes along and says "No!, I'm not good enough to be killed on trumped up charges preaching a message of peace. I want to be murdered...UPSIDE DOWN!!!" If anything, that would draw more attention to him. The best way to die humbly is to not tell people how a person died, but then that creates a vacuum that stories like this fill. "You've had a hard time? I've been here five years and they only hung me the right way up yesterday!"
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Post by clusium on Jan 16, 2018 13:49:13 GMT
I've seen you post a lot of weird stuff, but this one takes the cake. Would you mind explaining what is the problem with the statement you quoted? I don't know why that would be considered a weird post to top all weird posts. Anyway, it seems like a silly statement that someone would just make up to make Peter look more piously baller. Think of all the people, Christian and non-Christian, that were killed right side up and then this joker comes along and says "No!, I'm not good enough to be killed on trumped up charges preaching a message of peace. I want to be murdered...UPSIDE DOWN!!!" If anything, that would draw more attention to him. Plus, who the heck is Peter putting in a request for how he wants to be killed? The best way to die humbly is to not tell people how a person died, but then that creates a vacuum that stories like this fill. I disagree. Based upon everything we know about St. Peter from the Gospels, requesting to be nailed to his cross upside down because he felt unworthy to die the Same Kind of Death, as His Lord, would be in line with his thinking. Also, he was still executed by way of crucifixion. The Roman soldiers probably saw no reason to refuse his request to be upside down when he died, just so long as he was crucified.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 16, 2018 14:35:51 GMT
I don't know why that would be considered a weird post to top all weird posts. Anyway, it seems like a silly statement that someone would just make up to make Peter look more piously baller. Think of all the people, Christian and non-Christian, that were killed right side up and then this joker comes along and says "No!, I'm not good enough to be killed on trumped up charges preaching a message of peace. I want to be murdered...UPSIDE DOWN!!!" If anything, that would draw more attention to him. Plus, who the heck is Peter putting in a request for how he wants to be killed? The best way to die humbly is to not tell people how a person died, but then that creates a vacuum that stories like this fill. I disagree. Based upon everything we know about St. Peter from the Gospels, requesting to be nailed to his cross upside down because he felt unworthy to die the Same Kind of Death, as His Lord, would be in line with his thinking. Also, he was still executed by way of crucifixion. The Roman soldiers probably saw no reason to refuse his request to be upside down when he died, just so long as he was crucified. I don;t follow the bold. How does the information we have in the gospels match up with a man insisting on dying in a different way as everyone else? Do Catholics believe that Jesus was the only one crucified in the way he was? To be clear, there is nothing special about how someone dies. If it followed prophecy and the tech available, Jesus could have been shot in the head. Being crucified sucks no matter which way you head is pointed. Debating it proves the point that Peter dying this way is actually special as opposed to humble.
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Post by Vegas on Jan 16, 2018 15:01:13 GMT
You really nailed it! ![](https://s26.postimg.org/m8f14k0ih/yes.gif) ![](https://s26.postimg.org/b114zbst5/evil4.gif) Was gonna go the Monty Python route... but somebody already beat me to it. ![](https://s26.postimg.org/py0f8ura1/sad.gif)
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Jan 16, 2018 16:57:24 GMT
It's not that bad. Don't be a pussy.
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Post by clusium on Jan 16, 2018 22:29:10 GMT
I disagree. Based upon everything we know about St. Peter from the Gospels, requesting to be nailed to his cross upside down because he felt unworthy to die the Same Kind of Death, as His Lord, would be in line with his thinking. Also, he was still executed by way of crucifixion. The Roman soldiers probably saw no reason to refuse his request to be upside down when he died, just so long as he was crucified. I don;t follow the bold. How does the information we have in the gospels match up with a man insisting on dying in a different way as everyone else? Do Catholics believe that Jesus was the only one crucified in the way he was? To be clear, there is nothing special about how someone dies. If it followed prophecy and the tech available, Jesus could have been shot in the head. Being crucified sucks no matter which way you head is pointed. Debating it proves the point that Peter dying this way is actually special as opposed to humble. I don't know how you arrived that I posted that statement in bold, because I did not. Nobody ever said that the way Christ Died was any different than other victims of crucifixion both before or after He Did. All that is taught is that St. Peter specifically requested to be hung on his cross upside down, as he felt unworthy to die the Same Death as His Lord, & as already noted (& which you typed in bold) was that based on everything we know about St. Peter from the Gospels, requesting to be nailed to his cross upside down because felt unworthy to die the Same Kind of Death, as His Lord, would be in line with his thinking. St. Peter always humbled himself, where Christ was concerned. When he first met Our Lord, while he & the other disciples were fishing & caught loads of fish right when Christ Said that they would (they fished all night, & didn't catch a thing), St. Peter knelt down at His Feet, & said "Depart from me Lord, for I am a sinner" (St. Luke chapter 5, verse 8). Then at the Transfiguration, when St. Peter along with Sts. James & John witnessed the Glory Of Christ, right along with the apparitions of Moses & Elijah, St. Peter was overcome with Holy awe, that wanted to build up 3 tents (Read: shrines) for Christ & the 2 Prophets. This was the kind of person which St. Peter was. He was one that always humbled himself as far as the Lord Jesus Christ goes.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 16, 2018 23:38:50 GMT
I don;t follow the bold. How does the information we have in the gospels match up with a man insisting on dying in a different way as everyone else? Do Catholics believe that Jesus was the only one crucified in the way he was? To be clear, there is nothing special about how someone dies. If it followed prophecy and the tech available, Jesus could have been shot in the head. Being crucified sucks no matter which way you head is pointed. Debating it proves the point that Peter dying this way is actually special as opposed to humble. I don't know how you arrived that I posted that statement in bold, because I did not. Nobody ever said that the way Christ Died was any different than other victims of crucifixion both before or after He Did. All that is taught is that St. Peter specifically requested to be hung on his cross upside down, as he felt unworthy to die the Same Death as His Lord, & as already noted (& which you typed in bold) was that based on everything we know about St. Peter from the Gospels, requesting to be nailed to his cross upside down because felt unworthy to die the Same Kind of Death, as His Lord, would be in line with his thinking. St. Peter always humbled himself, where Christ was concerned. When he first met Our Lord, while he & the other disciples were fishing & caught loads of fish right when Christ Said that they would (they fished all night, & didn't catch a thing), St. Peter knelt down at His Feet, & said "Depart from me Lord, for I am a sinner" (St. Luke chapter 5, verse 8). Then at the Transfiguration, when St. Peter along with Sts. James & John witnessed the Glory Of Christ, right along with the apparitions of Moses & Elijah, St. Peter was overcome with Holy awe, that wanted to build up 3 tents (Read: shrines) for Christ & the 2 Prophets. This was the kind of person which St. Peter was. He was one that always humbled himself as far as the Lord Jesus Christ goes. I will simplify the question for you. Where in the Gospels does it state or imply what you clearly state in bold?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 0:35:16 GMT
I think I'd take it over impalement.
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Post by clusium on Jan 17, 2018 1:05:09 GMT
I don't know how you arrived that I posted that statement in bold, because I did not. Nobody ever said that the way Christ Died was any different than other victims of crucifixion both before or after He Did. All that is taught is that St. Peter specifically requested to be hung on his cross upside down, as he felt unworthy to die the Same Death as His Lord, & as already noted (& which you typed in bold) was that based on everything we know about St. Peter from the Gospels, requesting to be nailed to his cross upside down because felt unworthy to die the Same Kind of Death, as His Lord, would be in line with his thinking. St. Peter always humbled himself, where Christ was concerned. When he first met Our Lord, while he & the other disciples were fishing & caught loads of fish right when Christ Said that they would (they fished all night, & didn't catch a thing), St. Peter knelt down at His Feet, & said "Depart from me Lord, for I am a sinner" (St. Luke chapter 5, verse 8). Then at the Transfiguration, when St. Peter along with Sts. James & John witnessed the Glory Of Christ, right along with the apparitions of Moses & Elijah, St. Peter was overcome with Holy awe, that wanted to build up 3 tents (Read: shrines) for Christ & the 2 Prophets. This was the kind of person which St. Peter was. He was one that always humbled himself as far as the Lord Jesus Christ goes. I will simplify the question for you. Where in the Gospels does it state or imply what you clearly state in bold? Gospel according to St. John chapter 21, verses 18 - 19. Also, from the The Acts of Sts. Peter & Paul
The Acts of Sts. Peter & Paul
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 17, 2018 1:34:06 GMT
I will simplify the question for you. Where in the Gospels does it state or imply what you clearly state in bold? Gospel according to St. John chapter 21, verses 18 - 19. Also, from the The Acts of Sts. Peter & Paul
The Acts of Sts. Peter & Paul
That has nothing to do with my question, your statement, and thus your statement had nothing to do with what I said, so we will just end it there I guess...
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Post by clusium on Jan 17, 2018 3:43:42 GMT
That has nothing to do with my question, your statement, and thus your statement had nothing to do with what I said, so we will just end it there I guess... Both my previous posts answered your question, regarding St. Peter requesting to be hung upside down on the Cross. You have never explained why you cannot believe it to be true.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 17, 2018 13:15:05 GMT
That has nothing to do with my question, your statement, and thus your statement had nothing to do with what I said, so we will just end it there I guess... Both my previous posts answered your question, regarding St. Peter requesting to be hung upside down on the Cross. You have never explained why you cannot believe it to be true. I have no reason to believe its true and, trust me, your "points" had no way of helping with that. It's ok. I'm assuming it isn't a burning in Hell offense, so it's not important.
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