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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jan 17, 2018 13:38:58 GMT
Clusium answering a question by citing something that doesn't answer the question. How shocking.
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Post by Vegas on Jan 17, 2018 13:47:00 GMT
I will simplify the question for you. Where in the Gospels does it state or imply what you clearly state in bold?Gospel according to St. John chapter 21, verses 18 - 19. Also, from the The Acts of Sts. Peter & Paul
The Acts of Sts. Peter & Paul
You know that the question asked "where in the Gospels", right? You're answer might of well have been The Songs Of Peter, Paul, & Mary. |
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Post by clusium on Jan 17, 2018 14:28:44 GMT
Both my previous posts answered your question, regarding St. Peter requesting to be hung upside down on the Cross. You have never explained why you cannot believe it to be true. I have no reason to believe its true and, trust me, your "points" had no way of helping with that. It's ok. I'm assuming it isn't a burning in Hell offense, so it's not important. In what way were the fact that St. Peter always humbled himself where Christ was concerned, not proof, that he would do so when it came to his martyrdom? Requesting to be crucified upside down was consistent with his behaviour in the Gospels. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 17, 2018 14:46:25 GMT
I have no reason to believe its true and, trust me, your "points" had no way of helping with that. It's ok. I'm assuming it isn't a burning in Hell offense, so it's not important. In what way were the fact that St. Peter always humbled himself where Christ was concerned, not proof, that he would do so when it came to his martyrdom? Requesting to be crucified upside down was consistent with his behaviour in the Gospels. Don't pretend like the argument has anything to do with humility. All Christians are supposed to be humble and there's nothing in gospel that indicates a good sign of it involves being murdered upside down out of respect for the way Jesus was murdered. That's just a weird way to express humility and it in no way matches something that Peter would do or the rest of the apostles. |
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Post by clusium on Jan 17, 2018 15:12:32 GMT
In what way were the fact that St. Peter always humbled himself where Christ was concerned, not proof, that he would do so when it came to his martyrdom? Requesting to be crucified upside down was consistent with his behaviour in the Gospels. Don't pretend like the argument has anything to do with humility. All Christians are supposed to be humble and there's nothing in gospel that indicates a good sign of it involves being murdered upside down out of respect for the way Jesus was murdered. That's just a weird way to express humility and it in no way matches something that Peter would do or the rest of the apostles. I am not pretending anything. It has everything to do with St. Peter's humility where Christ Is concerned. Yes, all Christians are supposed to be humble. Nobody is arguing that. St. Peter was very humble, where Christ was concerned. Therefore, saying that he was not worthy to die the Same Death as His Lord was completely in line with his kind of thinking. |
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