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Post by fartyfartsalot on Mar 9, 2017 3:09:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 4:16:29 GMT
Gosling is good and will continue to have a fantastic film career. Heath Ledger's potential was cut short but he has left enough good films behind to be remembered for.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 5:11:11 GMT
Yes. Simply because he played a young Kevin Sorbo. That tops anything Ledger ever did....
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Post by bicks on Mar 9, 2017 7:41:46 GMT
No, but Gosling is good.
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Post by Xcalatë on Mar 9, 2017 12:18:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 12:44:16 GMT
Gagh! I'm going to stab myself in the eye now.
Question, can he pull off The Joker??
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 9, 2017 13:01:27 GMT
Well, one keeps adding to an impressive body of work, while the other is just a body.
Too soon?
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Post by sostie on Mar 9, 2017 13:18:21 GMT
Question, can he pull off The Joker?? Given the same outfit, make-up and script...probably. Many could have. Paul Giamatti had already given a similar performance in Shoot Em Up. |
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Post by ashverses on Mar 9, 2017 14:54:07 GMT
I'm not a huge fan of either, but: - One died before even having 5 good-to-great films/roles. - The other is running on barely-but-consistently good films/roles. *shrug* They've both been overrated (in response to 1-2 roles they played), so good on you to bring this up. ^This^ We really don't know what Ledger could have or would have become. Just not enough to compare. In the end, Gosling would have to be better just because his body.........................of work. Yeah, that's it. |
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Post by Marv on Mar 9, 2017 14:55:20 GMT
Aside from Ledgers Joker I'd say yes. It's really just that one performance that makes me elevate Ledger above Gosling.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 15:40:11 GMT
I'm not a huge fan of either, but: - One died before even having 5 good-to-great films/roles. - The other is running on barely-but-consistently good films/roles. *shrug* They've both been overrated (in response to 1-2 roles they played), so good on you to bring this up. You have a really terrible evaluation of people's talent. |
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Post by ashverses on Mar 9, 2017 16:28:16 GMT
I'm not a huge fan of either, but: - One died before even having 5 good-to-great films/roles. - The other is running on barely-but-consistently good films/roles. *shrug* They've both been overrated (in response to 1-2 roles they played), so good on you to bring this up. You have a really terrible evaluation of people's talent. How do evaluate people's talent? Do you base your evaluation of actors on 1-2 performances? Please explain. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 16:39:30 GMT
He is now.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Mar 9, 2017 17:32:06 GMT
No.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 9, 2017 17:53:23 GMT
Nope.
Gosling isn't very versatile imo, while Ledger had a lot of range. Ledger was also much better with underlying emotion.
If it wasn't for Brokeback Mountain and The Dark Knight I would say it is a tie.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 9, 2017 17:57:26 GMT
You have a really terrible evaluation of people's talent. How do evaluate people's talent? Do you base your evaluation of actors on 1-2 performances? Please explain. LOL What???
Heath Ledger had at least 5 good roles before he died and had 16 movies under his belt. The Dark Knight and Brokeback Mountain alone are enough to gauge his range and talent.
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Post by ashverses on Mar 9, 2017 18:16:24 GMT
How do evaluate people's talent? Do you base your evaluation of actors on 1-2 performances? Please explain. LOL What???
Heath Ledger had at least 5 good roles before he died and had 16 movies under his belt. The Dark Knight and Brokeback Mountain alone are enough to gauge his range and talent.
Ok. Please name the five good meaningful roles if you will I'll give you the oscary Brokeback Mountain and the Dark Knight (personally don't get the hype, wouldn't have won if he had not died). Name 3 more. Be honest. Ledger, unfortunately, didn't have enough performances. I'm not necessarily saying Gosling has him beat hands down, it's close. You are criticizing and dismissing how someone reasonably evaluated the performances of the two actors. That's what I'm arguing. |
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Post by misternick on Mar 9, 2017 18:18:27 GMT
Better at what, living? Advantage: Gosling.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 9, 2017 20:56:20 GMT
LOL What???
Heath Ledger had at least 5 good roles before he died and had 16 movies under his belt. The Dark Knight and Brokeback Mountain alone are enough to gauge his range and talent.
Ok. Please name the five good meaningful roles if you will I'll give you the oscary Brokeback Mountain and the Dark Knight (personally don't get the hype, wouldn't have won if he had not died). Name 3 more. Be honest. Ledger, unfortunately, didn't have enough performances. I'm not necessarily saying Gosling has him beat hands down, it's close. You are criticizing and dismissing how someone reasonably evaluated the performances of the two actors. That's what I'm arguing. Two Hands Candy The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus Monster's Ball
All of those are good roles and memorable performances as far as I'm concerned.
As for whether he would have won had he not died that is up for debate but he would have been nominated I'm pretty sure. There was Oscar talk just based on the first trailer for TDK before he died.
His performance would have been praised just as much had he lived. Many great performances have missed a nomination, that has nothing to do with how good the performance is. Using his death is just a cop out that people who don't love his performance can use and you certainly don't KNOW that he wouldn't have won.
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Post by sariz on Mar 10, 2017 3:57:55 GMT
Not yet
Heath ledger got his great actor rep based on one amazing performance and then he left us, who knows if he really was that great or it was just a one time gig. I won't blame hos fans for loving him for that performance. I think of Hugh Laurie as an outstanding actor mainly because of House.
Sure he was also great in The Night Manager and Chance but the public in general only knows him because of Dr House. Im sure if you ask The anyone about Hugh Laurie they tell you he is the one who played House right? Sure the British fans do know him as well for blackadder and a bit of Frye and Laurie but for the rest of the world he is Dr House.
Anyway going back to Ryan Gosling he has a long time to convince us he is great and I think he could do it, the question is does he wants to ?
He is sure a movie star woman love him as a heartthrob and guys think he is cool just like Brad Pitt in his prime but does wants to be another Brad Pitt or he wants to be like Daniel Day Lewis?
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