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Post by maya55555 on Jan 21, 2018 4:50:59 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 21, 2018 5:27:30 GMT
So true.
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Post by shadrack on Jan 21, 2018 5:59:03 GMT
Subjected to, yes, but that's not the same as succumbed to.
I'm still rooting for those who prefer to think for themselves.
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Jan 21, 2018 6:13:03 GMT
She’s got tig ol’ bitties.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Jan 21, 2018 9:09:31 GMT
Chemtrails, obviously.
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Post by progressiveelement on Jan 21, 2018 10:49:56 GMT
Not me. 😇
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 21, 2018 10:51:51 GMT
You are owned, body and soul, by the Freemasons. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Jan 21, 2018 11:00:38 GMT
You are owned, body and soul, by the Freemasons. More like Anheuser-Busch. |
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Post by Catman on Jan 21, 2018 14:14:33 GMT
Well, it was to help raise money for that band trip to Poughkeepsie, so it was for a good cause.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jan 21, 2018 14:16:45 GMT
I don't buy that brainwashing makes conceptual sense. It rests on a notions that (a) people don't change their views over time, and (b) people can "really" have beliefs, dispositions, etc. other than the ones that are presently obtaining for them.
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Post by Lugh on Jan 21, 2018 17:51:28 GMT
I don't buy that brainwashing makes conceptual sense. It rests on a notions that (a) people don't change their views over time, and (b) people can "really" have beliefs, dispositions, etc. other than the ones that are presently obtaining for them. Brainwashing is just using certain techniques to get someone t blindly accept something |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jan 21, 2018 18:21:08 GMT
I don't buy that brainwashing makes conceptual sense. It rests on a notions that (a) people don't change their views over time, and (b) people can "really" have beliefs, dispositions, etc. other than the ones that are presently obtaining for them. Brainwashing is just using certain techniques to get someone t blindly accept something How would a "blindly accepting something" distinction work so that it's not something that people routinely do? For example, you'd not claim that most folks only accept things after considerable critical thinking most of the time, would you? |
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Post by Lugh on Jan 21, 2018 19:13:45 GMT
Brainwashing is just using certain techniques to get someone t blindly accept something How would a "blindly accepting something" distinction work so that it's not something that people routinely do? For example, you'd not claim that most folks only accept things after considerable critical thinking most of the time, would you? Brainwashing is definitely something that routinely happens. The idea has to be implanted by external forces though. I would agree with you that a definition of brainwashing that doesn't admit this or tries to say people are coerced to believe something is just nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 20:21:30 GMT
She can subject me to those anytime she likes.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jan 21, 2018 20:48:39 GMT
How would a "blindly accepting something" distinction work so that it's not something that people routinely do? For example, you'd not claim that most folks only accept things after considerable critical thinking most of the time, would you? Brainwashing is definitely something that routinely happens. The idea has to be implanted by external forces though. I would agree with you that a definition of brainwashing that doesn't admit this or tries to say people are coerced to believe something is just nonsense. Okay, but I don't buy that it happens, and simply saying that it does is not at all persuasive to me. You'd first need to argue for it being coherent conceptually, where it has a demarcation criterion that makes sense with respect to typical brainwashing talk. |
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