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Post by kleinreturns on Jan 24, 2018 6:22:27 GMT
They're sweet on Swan Song flicks. Same reason Unforgiven was seen as some great never-before Deconstruction flick when truth is the Western had already been brutally deconstructed 20 years earlier in The Wild Bunch. But it was Eastwood's last Western, so the Academy went easy.
So why didn’t The Dark Knight Rises get an Oscar? Probably due to James Holmes.
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Post by scabab on Jan 24, 2018 6:36:49 GMT
As a heads up, this will move over to the X-men sub forum in a few hours time.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jan 24, 2018 8:37:10 GMT
As a heads up, this will move over to the X-men sub forum in a few hours time. Any plans to merge that sub with this one at some point? Sorry if it's been asked elsewhere.
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Post by scabab on Jan 24, 2018 8:43:32 GMT
Any plans to merge that sub with this one at some point? Sorry if it's been asked elsewhere. I think that's probably only something that would happen if the X-men series as we know it now is made to fit in with the MCU. There was also mention at some point last year that there were going to be other DC movies that were going to be made but they weren't going to made a part of the DCEU. So depending how things play out it might eventually just be made simpler to have a DC movie and Marvel movie board. It'd all be discussed first to see if the people on here would prefer it or not.
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Post by sostie on Jan 24, 2018 10:07:09 GMT
Congrats to Logan! And congrats to Fox for joining WB in the exclusive club as the only superhero movie studios to receive Oscar nominations in a major category! Unfortunately, Fox's sale to Disney means there'll be fewer Oscar-worthy superhero movies in the future since MCU won't be joining the exclusive Oscar club (17 movies for MCU so far and not a single Oscar nomination in a major category). And just as I've said many times before that MCU fans hate all superhero movies not produced by MCU, formersamhmd proves once again that I'm right. Instead of congratulating Fox for the great job that they did, formersamhmd is trying to discredit Logan's Oscar nomination just like he's been trying for almost a decade to discredit Heath Ledger's Oscar win. Look around you? Have you noticed that big elephant in the room? Don't ignore it.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jan 24, 2018 16:13:50 GMT
Any plans to merge that sub with this one at some point? Sorry if it's been asked elsewhere. I think that's probably only something that would happen if the X-men series as we know it now is made to fit in with the MCU. There was also mention at some point last year that there were going to be other DC movies that were going to be made but they weren't going to made a part of the DCEU. So depending how things play out it might eventually just be made simpler to have a DC movie and Marvel movie board. It'd all be discussed first to see if the people on here would prefer it or not. Interesting. Thanks. I guess I just assumed the X-Men would join the MCU as soon as practically possible. (I've no idea what effect the sale has on the currently slate of planned releases. I think Phoenix is still coming out?) That wasn't explicitly confirmed by anyone with any authority anywhere save for Feige talking about it hypothetically prior to the announcement of the sale, so it makes sense to wait.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 18:56:32 GMT
fucking awesome and well deserved nomination
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 25, 2018 9:03:51 GMT
Congrats to Logan! And congrats to Fox for joining WB in the exclusive club as the only superhero movie studios to receive Oscar nominations in a major category! Unfortunately, Fox's sale to Disney means there'll be fewer Oscar-worthy superhero movies in the future since MCU won't be joining the exclusive Oscar club (17 movies for MCU so far and not a single Oscar nomination in a major category). And just as I've said many times before that MCU fans hate all superhero movies not produced by MCU, formersamhmd proves once again that I'm right. Instead of congratulating Fox for the great job that they did, formersamhmd is trying to discredit Logan's Oscar nomination just like he's been trying for almost a decade to discredit Heath Ledger's Oscar win. Oh so you're hopping on the Logan love bandwagon No, it's not hopping on any bandwagon. It's showing support for another CBM studio for doing an outstanding job. When CBMs like The Dark Knight, Deadpool, Logan, and Wonder Woman get nominated for major awards by the Academy, the PGA, or the Golden Globes (and in the case of The Dark Knight, wins a major award), that's good for the CBM genre.
But I can understand why MCU fans like formersamhmd are trying to discredit Logan's nomination just like he's been trying for almost a decade to discredit Heath Ledger's Oscar win. Because the major nominations received by The Dark Knight, Deadpool, Logan, and Wonder Woman (and the major win by The Dark Knight) make MCU (which has released 17 movies and still hasn't received a single nomination for a major award by the Academy, the PGA, or the Golden Globes) look bad.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 25, 2018 12:38:41 GMT
Oh so you're hopping on the Logan love bandwagon No, it's not hopping on any bandwagon. It's showing support for another CBM studio for doing an outstanding job.
Unless it's the MCU, then you ignore their Award Noms.
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Post by sostie on Jan 25, 2018 19:13:30 GMT
Oh so you're hopping on the Logan love bandwagon But I can understand why MCU fans like formersamhmd are trying to discredit Logan's nomination
It not "MCU fans like formersamhmd" it's just formersamhmd. Stop trying to create a blanket them & us between the MCU, DCEU and X-Verse...it's embarrassing. Not quite as embarrassing as starting 10 threads on Wonder Woman's forthcoming Oscar nomination and then hiding away when it got zilch.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 25, 2018 20:12:01 GMT
They're sweet on Swan Song flicks. Same reason Unforgiven was seen as some great never-before Deconstruction flick when truth is the Western had already been brutally deconstructed 20 years earlier in The Wild Bunch. But it was Eastwood's last Western, so the Academy went easy.
So why didn’t The Dark Knight Rises get an Oscar? Wondered about that too. It made the top ten list for AFI too didn't it?
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 25, 2018 22:30:09 GMT
So why didn’t The Dark Knight Rises get an Oscar? Wondered about that too. It made the top ten list for AFI too didn't it? Residual goodwill from TDK, which itself got one massive artificial boost.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 26, 2018 4:54:42 GMT
No, it's not hopping on any bandwagon. It's showing support for another CBM studio for doing an outstanding job.
Unless it's the MCU, then you ignore their Award Noms. MCU has never been nominated for any major awards. And by major awards, I'm referring to acting, directing, producing, and writing awards from the Academy, the Screen Actors' Guild, the Directors' Guild, the Producers' Guild, and the Golden Globes.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 26, 2018 6:11:54 GMT
Unless it's the MCU, then you ignore their Award Noms. MCU has never been nominated for any major awards. And by major awards, I'm referring to acting, directing, producing, and writing awards from the Academy, the Screen Actors' Guild, the Directors' Guild, the Producers' Guild, and the Golden Globes. What will you cling too if Wonder Woman falls to 2nd place on Rotten Tomatoes top 50 superhero movies list? I guess you can cling to lesser awards it was nominated for or won. I personally never saw the point of you posting article after article saying the same thing over and over about Golden Globes and Oscars. When and IF (and that is a big if) Wonder Woman does fall from top spot will you quit parading around like that list is the end all be all?
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Post by sostie on Jan 26, 2018 10:41:32 GMT
MCU has never been nominated for any major awards. And by major awards, I'm referring to acting, directing, producing, and writing awards from the Academy, the Screen Actors' Guild, the Directors' Guild, the Producers' Guild, and the Golden Globes. What will you cling too if Wonder Woman falls to 2nd place on Rotten Tomatoes top 50 superhero movies list? ...When and IF (and that is a big if) Wonder Woman does fall from top spot will you quit parading around like that list is the end all be all? The number one spot is the only one that matters to him...the rest of the list is meaningless to him because it contains ALL the MCU films (or at least it did last time I looked) yet no other DCEU films - he never acknowledges that when raised. If WW loses that spot he has nothing else to cling on to.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 26, 2018 12:49:04 GMT
Unless it's the MCU, then you ignore their Award Noms. MCU has never been nominated for any major awards. And by major awards, I'm referring to acting, directing, producing, and writing awards from the Academy, the Screen Actors' Guild, the Directors' Guild, the Producers' Guild, and the Golden Globes. They won't sell-out, that's why. And yes, they have gotten Oscar Noms before, and they didn't need any artificial boosters to get them.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jan 26, 2018 16:09:17 GMT
Unless it's the MCU, then you ignore their Award Noms. MCU has never been nominated for any major awards. And by major awards, I'm referring to acting, directing, producing, and writing awards from the Academy, the Screen Actors' Guild, the Directors' Guild, the Producers' Guild, and the Golden Globes. I would consider Special Effects a major category as well, which they've been nominated more than once with their films, considering the effects are what helps make the film look good and convincing. Something the DCEU wouldn't understand after the travesty of effects in Justice League and the video game villain, Steppenwolf
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Post by summers8 on Jan 27, 2018 11:27:12 GMT
Winter Solider is the one very serious almost well written film MCU have in their 17 cartoonish mediocre movie list that DOFP destroyed 1 month after Winter Solider came out with better acting, deeper themes and a more compelling plot and superior drama to Winter Solider that ended in the typical ooc marvel fight scenes and explosions. DOFP didn't destroy anything Winter Soldier still remained better. Also it was well written not almost you biased moron. About half of the other 17 we're also good despite not being as serious. The acting, drama, themes and plot in Winter Soldier were better than DOFP. It's an action movie so you can expect a big climactic fight. X2, X1 and First Class also had an explosive end fight for which reason alone they were better than DOFP. I give Logan praise and just because I praise it with an MCU film you get a bee in your bonnet. How thin-skinned are you? I love X Men as well but you fanboys are getting on my nerves. Now if you want to repeat the same shit over and over again then go ahead. I won't listen or agree to anything you say. Now let me post my opinions without obviously trying to call me wrong while being cowardly enough to not even quote my post. Fuck off. Winter Solider is better than DOFP? LMAO. What is worse, MCU fans holding unto this bs or MCU having only 1 movie out of 17 that can match the serious, deeper and thoughtful xmen movies , they do with ease. Did you just say better acting? HAHAHA. Pulleeze. TWS is nothing in the acting department compared to what James Mcvoy, Michael Fassbender, Lawrence, Hugh Jackman , Patrick Stewart and Sir Ian Mckellen brought to DOFP not to mention the emotional depth of that film. X-Men is one of the few blockbuster franchises where the acting is highly praised. See also Fassbender's performance in First Class or a weak movie as X3, where Kelsey Grammer was still praised for his performance as Beast. um, This is what you call acting. This scene is a masterpiece of the two Xaviers done well by James Mcvoy and [Patrick Stewart. Um, did you know in the critical reception of DOFP, Many said James Mcvoy should have gotten a best supporting oscar nomination for his role as messed up 70s hippie druggie Xavier? LOL better acting? DOFP is actually A drama first. TWS is an action movie. drop it. I liked it better when many MCU fans said the film was boring. No offence and this is not about X-Men movies or MCU movies, but Scarlett Johanson, Sebastian Stan and Chris Evans are not really known for their acting skills or have ever been uniquely praised for it like the X-Men actors.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 27, 2018 11:38:41 GMT
You all are hating on DC-Fan when DC is currently pawning Marvel in comics, animation, games and more and in movies again, once the Matt Reeves Batman movies are out. MCU fans, how long can you hold onto your childish comedy cgi movies?
it's a good time to be a DC fan like me. it is a bad time to be an xmen fan like me because us xmen fans from 2020 will never have films like Logan and DOFP ever again. DC still has a chance to have another TDK trilogy.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 27, 2018 12:21:00 GMT
DOFP didn't destroy anything Winter Soldier still remained better. Also it was well written not almost you biased moron. About half of the other 17 we're also good despite not being as serious. The acting, drama, themes and plot in Winter Soldier were better than DOFP. It's an action movie so you can expect a big climactic fight. X2, X1 and First Class also had an explosive end fight for which reason alone they were better than DOFP. I give Logan praise and just because I praise it with an MCU film you get a bee in your bonnet. How thin-skinned are you? I love X Men as well but you fanboys are getting on my nerves. Now if you want to repeat the same shit over and over again then go ahead. I won't listen or agree to anything you say. Now let me post my opinions without obviously trying to call me wrong while being cowardly enough to not even quote my post. Fuck off. Winter Solider is better than DOFP? Yes, all DOFP had going for it was the old cast coming back for a silly fairytale ending.
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