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Post by mikef6 on Jan 30, 2018 19:34:04 GMT
“The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want?
My answer is: I do rape all I want.
And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing,, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine.”
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Post by Isapop on Jan 30, 2018 20:45:16 GMT
“The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? My answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing,, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine.” That point doesn't go very far because I don't think most theists argue, "If God wasn't watching me, I'd do anything." The position for more of them is closer to, "God ingrained certain values into all of us, whether you believe in him or not." |
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Post by sugarbiscuits on Jan 30, 2018 20:52:46 GMT
“The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? My answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing,, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine.” it could be he would do that if he would get away with it. He could be lying.
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Post by johnblutarsky on Jan 30, 2018 21:55:33 GMT
“The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? My answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing,, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine.” it could be he would do that if he would get away with it. He could be lying.
I’m not sure if you’re serious with your reply. |
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Post by gadreel on Jan 30, 2018 21:59:01 GMT
The issue of course being that it says much more about the theist than it does about the atheist. There are very few theists I know that avoid raping people simply because God™ has told them it is a bad idea.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jan 30, 2018 22:30:07 GMT
Granted, there are some weird arguments for the existence of a god, especially from those who expect a god to take their side against the general masses on a daily basis. It's like the atheists who say there's no god because when they rode in a plane through the clouds there were no old men with long white hair and beards up there.  |
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Post by gadreel on Jan 30, 2018 22:34:29 GMT
“The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? My answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing,, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine.” That point doesn't go very far because I don't think most theists argue, "If God wasn't watching me, I'd do anything." The position for more of them is closer to, "God ingrained certain values into all of us, whether you believe in him or not." But it is normally phrased in such a way as to imply the Atheist has no moral compass, which sure is very misguided, but I think that is the point. |
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Post by goz on Jan 30, 2018 22:46:37 GMT
Without wishing to be a smarty pants Debbie Downer too much,  this thread is an incarnation (pun intended) of the eternal question of the objective vs subjective morality and whether a higher power is involved/required. The OP is pointing out to the theists that a high power is not necessarily required for an individual to have a similar level of 'moral standards' to those which theists often espouse. |
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Post by cupcakes on Jan 31, 2018 0:35:34 GMT
tpfkar it could be he would do that if he would get away with it. He could be lying.
Definitely the mindset of those who say God is needed for it.  Although sooo many godly keep getting busted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 3:35:30 GMT
“The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? This one puzzles me because even if you grant the idea that god stops people from raping who would otherwise rape... so what? Is the implication here that we should all subscribe to a belief just because it prevents harm? Regardless of whether it's actually true or not? |
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