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Post by wolfman on Feb 28, 2017 4:25:39 GMT
What happened to Kopitar? His play has dropped off a cliff this year. Possession numbers still strong, even in the context of his team. icorsi/ifenwick up from last year 5x5 At his age there could be some decline, but shooting 5% this year after never finishing below 10% seems more luck related. Team is shooting just under 8% with him on this year in all situations. Over 11% last year.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Feb 28, 2017 4:26:10 GMT
Secondary Connor on the verge of 50 assists. Will have to get back to you on how many are secondary. Pts without 2A Crosby 57 McJesus 51 Malkin 51 Burns 47 Kane 47 Get some more cheapo assists, Penguins! People bitch about secondary assists, and there's lots of times where they're credited to someone who didn't do much on the goal. But there are many instances where the secondary assist guy is the one who really created the whole play. Look at that goal by Marchand yesterday. Nice extra pass by Bergeron to give Marchand a yawning cage, but it was Pastrnak who made the special play that created that goal. No way second assists should be looked at negatively. As you said, it might be more important to the goal than the primary assist.
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Post by wolfman on Feb 28, 2017 4:47:58 GMT
The stipulations of that conditional pick in the Shattenkirk trade is the most ridiculously convoluted thing I think I've ever seen.
"If Shattenkirk eats an apple at any point during the first round, the Blues get a pick 3 rounds later in the 2027 draft than any pick the Capitals obtain by trading anyone from Manitoba in the next 3 years."
That's not an actual condition, but it's no less crazy than anything involving that pick.
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Post by sdm3 on Feb 28, 2017 4:52:30 GMT
Secondary Connor on the verge of 50 assists. Will have to get back to you on how many are secondary. Pts without 2A Crosby 57 McJesus 51 Malkin 51 Burns 47 Kane 47 Get some more cheapo assists, Penguins! People bitch about secondary assists, and there's lots of times where they're credited to someone who didn't do much on the goal. But there are many instances where the secondary assist guy is the one who really created the whole play. Look at that goal by Marchand yesterday. Nice extra pass by Bergeron to give Marchand a yawning cage, but it was Pastrnak who made the special play that created that goal. Particularly true in the case of guys like McDavid, where the majority of goals that happen with him on the ice involve McDavid taking the puck and rocketing into the other team's zone by himself.
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Post by wolfman on Feb 28, 2017 4:54:26 GMT
Better to be Metro 2 or Metro 4?
2 - you get home ice vs. Pittsburgh, Columbus, or New York and you're staring down a 2nd round date with Washington even if you win.
4 - on the road, but you get the Atlantic winner and a potential 2nd round date with Atlantic 2/3
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Post by sdm3 on Feb 28, 2017 4:58:32 GMT
I choose Metro 4 every day. Hard to be scared by any of the teams vying for the Atlantic's top 3 in a seven game series if you're Pittsburgh, Columbus or either New York Team.
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Post by wolfman on Feb 28, 2017 5:05:30 GMT
I mean, if the problem wasn't apparent already, the President's trophy winner having to play surging Pittsburgh in the 2nd round last year should've been enough for them to go back to 1 vs 8, etc.
The Caps were pretty vocal about it, everyone knew their complaints were justified, and nothing changes.
I sometimes get annoyed with the people who claim "best sport, worst league" or whatever, but with this playoff system and the league still not going to a 3 point system to do away with bogus parity, I'm on board with the complainers.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Feb 28, 2017 12:27:20 GMT
Secondary Connor on the verge of 50 assists. Will have to get back to you on how many are secondary. Pts without 2A Crosby 57 McJesus 51 Malkin 51 Burns 47 Kane 47 Get some more cheapo assists, Penguins! People bitch about secondary assists, and there's lots of times where they're credited to someone who didn't do much on the goal. But there are many instances where the secondary assist guy is the one who really created the whole play. Look at that goal by Marchand yesterday. Nice extra pass by Bergeron to give Marchand a yawning cage, but it was Pastrnak who made the special play that created that goal. And once in a great while there's an incredible passing play that could have more than two assists.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Feb 28, 2017 12:34:34 GMT
I sometimes get annoyed with the people who claim "best sport, worst league" or whatever, but with this playoff system and the league still not going to a 3 point system to do away with bogus parity, I'm on board with the complainers. Don't forget the "Loser Point".
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Feb 28, 2017 17:25:35 GMT
The NHL wanted more divisional rivalries come playoff time yet the way the playoffs are setup doesn't maximize the possibilities. The west is split 4/4 right now and the pairings work out divisionally. But in the east despite a 4/4 split we'd have 2 crossover series. Sorry but I'd rather see Leafs/Habs and Rangers/Caps with no crossovers even though this would guarantee a worse team making the conf. final and 2 better teams being knocked out in the quarters. I'll take divisional matchups before fairness every time in a 4/4 split.
In a 5/3 split where the NHL system has one crossover, I'd seed the teams 1 to 8 and pair them best-worst until the crossover is paired, at which point the remaining pairings would be divisional. This would maximize the divisional pairings while insuring the necessary crossover doesn't have to come at the expense of divisional standings, i.e. a division winner doesn't have to play a WC team from the other division when a worse non-WC team is available from their own.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Feb 28, 2017 22:14:46 GMT
I've never even bothered to fully look into how the wild card team is decided, I think it just makes the league (not the sport) look like a bigger joke.
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Post by sdm3 on Feb 28, 2017 23:17:40 GMT
It's quite simple, the two teams with the highest number of points outside of the top three in each division.
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Post by sdm3 on Feb 28, 2017 23:24:17 GMT
I hope everyone caught Kucherov's 4 point night yesterday. And what a slate of games we have tonight! Arguably the top pick is the Capitals featuring newly acquired Kevin Shattenkirk versus the Rangers in New York. For Rocket and Ross race watchers, McDavid, Crosby, Laine, Matthews, Atkinson, Pacioretty, Burns, Tarasenko and Marchand are all in action. That reminds me of a thread I saw on HFBoards this week: "Brad Marchand is the best player in the NHL". A few responses were serious.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Mar 1, 2017 0:24:08 GMT
It's quite simple, the two teams with the highest number of points outside of the top three in each division. Yeah, I knew it was something simple like that, but honestly I just don't care. I think it's a stupid system.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Mar 1, 2017 0:24:22 GMT
I hope everyone caught Kucherov's 4 point night yesterday. And what a slate of games we have tonight! Arguably the top pick is the Capitals featuring newly acquired Kevin Shattenkirk versus the Rangers in New York. For Rocket and Ross race watchers, McDavid, Crosby, Laine, Matthews, Atkinson, Pacioretty, Burns, Tarasenko and Marchand are all in action. That reminds me of a thread I saw on HFBoards this week: "Brad Marchand is the best player in the NHL". A few responses were serious. He's not even the best player from this province.
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Post by sdm3 on Mar 1, 2017 4:35:54 GMT
What happened Penguins? 2-0 lead in the 3rd but gave up 3 unanswered goals to lose in Dallas.
Rocket race: Crosby 34 Laine 31 Pacioretty 31 Matthews 31
Points: McDavid 72 Crosby 67 Marchand 66
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Post by schicklgruber on Mar 1, 2017 4:45:20 GMT
Austin Matthews! BAM! Great hands, super quick release, dart precision. 31 of the year.
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Post by sdm3 on Mar 1, 2017 22:17:37 GMT
We've got a classic rivalry game tonight between two Cup winning teams... that's right, it's Tampa Bay versus Carolina.
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Post by sdm3 on Mar 1, 2017 22:35:06 GMT
One of the more amusing deadline moves is Iginla's corpse to Los Angeles.
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Post by wolfman on Mar 2, 2017 0:52:01 GMT
They got outworked in the 3rd and Murray had a rough period. Thought they squandered a nice opportunity to take a bigger lead into that period. Dallas looked completely inept and the Penguins lived in their zone, but the Penguins really didn't turn that zone time into too many shots or chances.
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