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Post by alfapeet on Feb 4, 2018 12:03:55 GMT
I came across list of Box Office Bombs and I found that list is quite interesting as it contains films that shouldn't be in the list.
How are these following films "Box Office Flops"? As I understand a film is box office flop, when it earns less than production cost but these films had box office bigger than production cost. 1) The Mummy (2017) Budget: 195 million USD Box Office: 409,1 million USD 2) The Great Wall (2016) Budget: $150,000,000 Box office: $332,000,000 3) Rise of the Guardians (2012) Budget: $145,000,000 Box office: $306,900,000 4) Battleship (2012) Budget: $209,000,000 Box office: $303,000,000 5) Alice Through Looking Class (2016) Budget: $170,000,000 Box office: $299,500,000 6) Blade Runner 2 (2017) Budget: $150,000,000 Box office: $259,100,000 7) Rush Hour 3 (2007) Budget: $140,000,000 Box office: $258,000,000 8) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 (2016) Budget: $135,000,000 Box office: $245,600,000 9) Pixels (2015) Budget: $88,000,000 Box office: $244,900,000 10) Ghostbusters (2016) Budget: $144,000,000 Box office: $229,100,000
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Post by politicidal on Feb 4, 2018 15:54:06 GMT
They probably added marketing costs to those budgets listed which would result in a loss or barely break even.
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Post by Seto on Feb 7, 2018 14:24:39 GMT
They probably added marketing costs to those budgets listed which would result in a loss or barely break even. Right. The general rule is a film's gross needs to at least double its budget to break even.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 7, 2018 15:48:19 GMT
Yes, as stated above the rule of thumb for box office success is double the production cost. However, some of those movies would still not be flops so whoever made that list doesn't really know what they are talking about. No one outside of the studio really knows what is paid for marketing so adding that in is a fool's errand.
Also, if you are going to add marketing to the costs then you have add many other things besides box office to the income (home video, streaming/TV rights, merchandising, product placement, promotions, etc)
That's why the only real way to judge if a movie is a BOX OFFICE SUCCESS is to use the production cost times 2 rule.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 23:19:06 GMT
I came across list of Box Office Bombs and I found that list is quite interesting as it contains films that shouldn't be in the list. How are these following films "Box Office Flops"? As I understand a film is box office flop, when it earns less than production cost but these films had box office bigger than production cost.
A common mistake. Domestically, only about half of the money taken in at the theatre goes back to the studio. The other half is taken by the theatre chains themselves. And in the foreign box office it's not even half. Then throw in that the studio also spends money on marketing which they need to recoup as well. But on the other hand, the studio can also make money off merchandising, fast food tie-ins and such, Blu-ray sales, streaming, TV deals, etc. So it gets complicated. And also bear in mind that movies are funded by investors, and nobody invests money in anything with the goal of breaking even.
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