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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 7, 2018 17:02:26 GMT
It made $700M less than its predecessor. It's time for people to stop pointing to the BO to prove the film was good when it has historically low audience scores for the franchise and it had a historic loss from film to film in a franchise. It wasn't a bomb, I'm aware of that. But you shouldn't tout the BO as the deciding factor when it performed poorly in comparison to the previous installment. I didn't like it, you did and that's fine. But money does not equal quality, or are you a fan of the Transformers movies as well? I'm not the one discussing box office as if it mattered how good the movie is.I am saying only an idiot would say the film wasn't a success. I wold be more than happy to discuss the incorrect reasons why the movie stunk if only people had the nerve to present something. Yes you are. Someone asked a question about Rian Johnson's trilogy and you replied defensively, leading off by commenting specifically on its success at the box office. If I liked the film, I would've just said, "Of course, TLJ was fantastic, why wouldn't they?" We'll have to agree to disagree on the rest. Only an idiot would pretend a $700M drop from film to film was not significant. As far as issues with the film, there are tons of threads on the TLJ board, and I've presented my opinion on the film weeks ago. You can dig those posts up if you like, but please stop pretending nobody has presented an alternative viewpoint on this site. Grow up.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 7, 2018 17:34:10 GMT
I'm not the one discussing box office as if it mattered how good the movie is.I am saying only an idiot would say the film wasn't a success. I wold be more than happy to discuss the incorrect reasons why the movie stunk if only people had the nerve to present something. Yes you are. Someone asked a question about Rian Johnson's trilogy and you replied defensively, leading off by commenting specifically on its success at the box office. If I liked the film, I would've just said, "Of course, TLJ was fantastic, why wouldn't they?" We'll have to agree to disagree on the rest. Only an idiot would pretend a $700M drop from film to film was not significant. As far as issues with the film, there are tons of threads on the TLJ board, and I've presented my opinion on the film weeks ago. You can dig those posts up if you like, but please stop pretending nobody has presented an alternative viewpoint on this site. Grow up. Here is what is said: To respond to the silly notion that there is any reason for Disney to be unhappy with TLJ. In no way would that be construed as a "Derp- movie made lots of money, so it must be good because critics only like movies that make a lot of money" So there's a few points that we need to separate because some people on here aren't bright enough to do so themselves. 1. The movie is a financial success. it has made a bunch of money and continues to do so. 2. the movie was critically acclaimed 3. It received an A score from people who saw it in theaters which mirrors the previous 2 meaning that general audiences liked the movie. So if we look at these things overall, we will see that the only reason to say TLJ sucked in any objective way is to say that the bitter fans are the only ones whose opinion matters and no one is crazy enough to say something like that.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 7, 2018 17:35:38 GMT
The Phantom Menace to Attack of the Clones had the exact same percentage drop in box office film to film as TFA and TLJ. The franchise survived and is still makeing more money than ever.
The first movie of a trilogy and the first movie in 10 years always has exceptional box office. The $700M drop means nothing to the current level of success of this franchise. TLJ is the second biggest money making Star Wars film of all time which is exactly what it needed to be.
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Post by outrider127 on Feb 7, 2018 19:28:20 GMT
The Phantom Menace to Attack of the Clones had the exact same percentage drop in box office film to film as TFA and TLJ. The franchise survived and is still makeing more money than ever. The first movie of a trilogy and the first movie in 10 years always has exceptional box office. The $700M drop means nothing to the current level of success of this franchise. TLJ is the second biggest money making Star Wars film of all time which is exactly what it needed to be. Not true, it was a much bigger drop than anyone expected, not to mention that it really bombed in China($41 million compared to TFA's $130 million), not to mention the disastrous 48% RT Audience score--Disney is not dumb, they know that if they want to continue the franchise beyond Episode 9, they need a newer and better cast, drop Finn, Ridley and Poe like yesterday's cat litter, create better stories, and keep JJ Abrams as the Director
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 7, 2018 20:10:41 GMT
I knew someone would bring up china lol.
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Post by THawk on Feb 7, 2018 20:26:32 GMT
yipee the Game of Porn showrunners get to pollute and pervert what is meant to be family entertainment.
Society does not learn any lesson ever. It continues promoting and supporting degrading gutter trash, and then asks why the shit is swimming at the top.
Like there weren't two other people you could get involved but those specifically involved in creating primetime pornography?
Just pathetic and sad.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 7, 2018 20:57:36 GMT
yipee the Game of Porn showrunners get to pollute and pervert what is meant to be family entertainment. Society does not learn any lesson ever. It continues promoting and supporting degrading gutter trash, and then asks why the shit is swimming at the top. Like there weren't two other people you could get involved but those specifically involved in creating primetime pornography? Just pathetic and sad. Are you thinking they are contractually obligated to make an adult themed Star Wars?
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Post by THawk on Feb 8, 2018 15:52:15 GMT
yipee the Game of Porn showrunners get to pollute and pervert what is meant to be family entertainment. Society does not learn any lesson ever. It continues promoting and supporting degrading gutter trash, and then asks why the shit is swimming at the top. Like there weren't two other people you could get involved but those specifically involved in creating primetime pornography? Just pathetic and sad. Are you thinking they are contractually obligated to make an adult themed Star Wars? I'm saying don't be surprised at "thematically necessary" scene of Jar Jar Binks giving it to Yoda from behind.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 8, 2018 17:40:27 GMT
When do I get MY trilogy? ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 8, 2018 17:43:10 GMT
yipee the Game of Porn showrunners get to pollute and pervert what is meant to be family entertainment. Society does not learn any lesson ever. It continues promoting and supporting degrading gutter trash, and then asks why the shit is swimming at the top. Like there weren't two other people you could get involved but those specifically involved in creating primetime pornography? Just pathetic and sad. So you can't imagine that these guys are smart enough not to do with Star Wars what they did with Game of Thrones, yet still bring a high level of quality to the project? duh. Come on. They're not stupid. They have OTHER tricks up their sleeves. Jeez
But as a side note: I'd love it if they to Star Wars what they did to Game of Thrones! Time for Star Wars to mature up! LOL A sex and back stabbing story line in the SW universe? Why not?!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 8, 2018 17:53:52 GMT
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