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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 18:13:24 GMT
... with the word of GOD"
A Texas-based evangelist with ties to President Donald Trump came under fire this week after video re-surfaced of her telling followers that they don't need to get a flu shot because "Jesus himself gave us the flu shot."
Gloria Copeland, a member of the president's faith advisory council, posted the video last Wednesday, but it began to gain traction this week after a number watch groups re-posted it on social-media channels.
"Listen, partners, we don't have a flu season," Copeland, 75, said in a Facebook video posted Jan. 31. "We've got a duck season, a deer season, but we don't have a flu season."
"And don't receive it when somebody threatens you with, 'Everybody is getting the flu,'" she added. "We've already had our shot. He bore our sicknesses and carried our diseases. That's what we stand on."
A devastating flu outbreak has killed dozens since October. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said at least 14,676 people have been hospitalized with influenza since the flu season began in October, double the number from all of last year and the highest ever recorded. The agency urges those who haven't been vaccinated to get a flu shot.
At least 53 children have died from the flu this season, including 16 just last week, according to the CDC.
Copeland, a co-founder the Fort Worth, Texas-based Kenneth Copeland Ministries, went on to pray for those who were already displaying flu-like symptoms, telling them to protect themselves by declaring "I'll never have the flu."
"That's great -- that's the way it's supposed to be," she continued. "Just keep saying that 'I'll never have the flu. I'll never have the flu.' Inoculate yourself with the word of God. Flu, I bind you off the people in the name of Jesus. Jesus himself gave us the flu shot. He redeemed us from the curse of flu."
The video received more than 8,000 reactions and nearly 4,000 shares on Facebook as of Wednesday morning. Although some Facebook users agreed with the minister, others accused her of being "reckless and irresponsible."
abcnews.go.com/US/trump-adviser-ignore-flu-shots-inoculate-word-god/story?id=52897631
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 7, 2018 20:13:57 GMT
"Just keep saying that 'I'll never have the flu. I'll never have the flu.'
In all fairness, my mom read a book by a woman who talked herself out of a brain tumor, but I can't even talk myself out of cold sores. All the same, a flu shot only 10-30% effective?, not worth my time. I'll stick to basic hygienic and common sense preventative methods that should offer the same protection against most strains of the flu instead of just the handful the shot covers, thank you very much.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Feb 7, 2018 20:16:22 GMT
"Just keep saying that 'I'll never have the flu. I'll never have the flu.'
my mom read a book by a woman who talked herself out of a brain tumor People who want to make jokes should take lessons from you.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 7, 2018 20:23:58 GMT
Remember when Kenneth Copeland went on that fund-raiser because they needed a private jet? Aren't planes "science"?.... Why do they need a plane? Can't Jesus just teleport them wherever they want to go? People like this need to realize that they are creating faaaaaarrrrr greater evils than they claim to be fighting against.
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Post by Catman on Feb 7, 2018 20:28:56 GMT
Why do they need a plane? Captain Kirk once asked a similar question.
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Post by Vegas on Feb 7, 2018 20:30:08 GMT
Why do they need a plane? Captain Kirk once asked a similar question.
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Post by general313 on Feb 7, 2018 20:31:27 GMT
I'm going to pray to Jesus to put gas in my car so I don't have to stop at the gas station. If that works, then I'm moving onto divine immunization from cancer, heart disease and Alzheimer's.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 7, 2018 20:46:18 GMT
It's insufferable to hear but it can always be worse.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 21:08:12 GMT
Medical advice should probably be left to medical professionals. Get your shot, people.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 8, 2018 0:31:07 GMT
Medical advice should probably be left to medical professionals. Get your shot, people. If they actually think it's going to do any good, a lot of them don't and this year that's with good reason. It's not as if they were saying only 10-30% of the shots are actually as effective as previous ones have been, it's that all of them are at best only 10-30% effective, and how effective were they last year or the year before? Some people might see that as being enough percent to trust it'll work, but a lot also don't and nobody can convince them otherwise.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 8, 2018 3:27:09 GMT
I've often wondered what the world would be like if people did actually have to choose between science and religion. If those and power said: "you can't have both. You can either believe in God and that God will give you everything you need/want, or you can be agnostic/atheist and have all the benefits of modern science." It would be like... survival of the fittest, only with ideas rather than species. I'm guessing the world would see an alarming rise in the rate of atheist/agnostic conversions.
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Post by shadrack on Feb 8, 2018 11:54:24 GMT
All the same, a flu shot only 10-30% effective?, not worth my time. I'll stick to basic hygienic and common sense preventative methods that should offer the same protection against most strains of the flu instead of just the handful the shot covers, thank you very much. That would be a great argument but for the fact that we don't know how effective the flu vaccine is going to be in a given year until the season is half over. Let's be honest. It's the second week in February. Anyone who hasn't gotten a flu shot by now, wasn't going to get one anyway, regardless of the effectiveness rate.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 8, 2018 14:00:22 GMT
All the same, a flu shot only 10-30% effective?, not worth my time. I'll stick to basic hygienic and common sense preventative methods that should offer the same protection against most strains of the flu instead of just the handful the shot covers, thank you very much. That would be a great argument but for the fact that we don't know how effective the flu vaccine is going to be in a given year until the season is half over. Let's be honest. It's the second week in February. Anyone who hasn't gotten a flu shot by now, wasn't going to get one anyway, regardless of the effectiveness rate. And that's their right. I've seen a lot of comments from people who say they NEVER get sick, the only time they do is when they get the flu shot, a lot of them like in a 20 year span only take the shot twice, only get sick twice, and people can argue till the cows come home if they actually get the flu or not, but if the fact remains the only time they get sick is when they take the flu shot, which could be as some put it 'side effects with SIMILAR symptoms to the flu' or they instead caught any of the thousands of other strains that the shot didn't protect them from, or they caught the flu anyway since it takes 2 weeks for the shot to take effect and they already contracted it before they got their shot, then it's not really justified for them to take it, is it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 14:50:44 GMT
Medical advice should probably be left to medical professionals. Get your shot, people. If they actually think it's going to do any good, a lot of them don't and this year that's with good reason. It's not as if they were saying only 10-30% of the shots are actually as effective as previous ones have been, it's that all of them are at best only 10-30% effective, and how effective were they last year or the year before? Some people might see that as being enough percent to trust it'll work, but a lot also don't and nobody can convince them otherwise. All I can say is, I have two powerful reasons to get my shot. My wife, who works in the medical field and knows a lot more about it than I do, says I should. More important, though, is my personal experience. I've been trying my own experiment with the "flu shot" for seven years now. Three times I have gotten the shot and I have not contracted the flu. Four times I have not gotten the shot and three of those times I have contracted the flu. The beatings I have taken from those three times have convinced me. I don't care if it's all a coincidence or not. I'm sold.
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