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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 9, 2018 19:06:19 GMT
You did not say this? Nothing there says in the last 20 years. And even if you want to go 90s... Dude, the only difference now is that we can get information faster. People being able to actually have real time audience scores is huge. Jesus your really are this dense. I responded to you after this post explaining myself and you still do not get it. Quit while you're behind. And I responded to you responding to me with this: And even if you want to go 90s... Dude, the only difference now is that we can get information faster. People being able to actually have real time audience scores is huge. And adding to that: more information. Race relations is actually better now than it was in the 90s. You just know more about what is happening and see more incidents thanks to social media. You could get away with more stuff in the 90s than now. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 9, 2018 19:14:51 GMT
Jesus your really are this dense. I responded to you after this post explaining myself and you still do not get it. Quit while you're behind. And I responded to you responding to me with this: And even if you want to go 90s... Dude, the only difference now is that we can get information faster. People being able to actually have real time audience scores is huge. And adding to that: more information. Race relations is actually better now than it was in the 90s. You just know more about what is happening and see more incidents thanks to social media. You could get away with more stuff in the 90s than now. You make a very good point. However, I disagree. Sure, access to information is much more readily available, but I still think we have gone backwards the past few decades. Programs that were meant to help have now been abused. Anything done by anyone of color can no longer be criticized at all for fear of being labeled a racist, sexist, etc. Now movies, songs, shows, etc. are judged on the social issues they promote rather than the writing, acting, etc. I am definitely seeing Black Panther and I think it looks awesome, but more than half the reviews talk about the race of the characters and do not even mention the actual content of the movie. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 9, 2018 19:38:11 GMT
And I responded to you responding to me with this: And even if you want to go 90s... Dude, the only difference now is that we can get information faster. People being able to actually have real time audience scores is huge. And adding to that: more information. Race relations is actually better now than it was in the 90s. You just know more about what is happening and see more incidents thanks to social media. You could get away with more stuff in the 90s than now. You make a very good point. However, I disagree. Sure, access to information is much more readily available, but I still think we have gone backwards the past few decades. Programs that were meant to help have now been abused. Anything done by anyone of color can no longer be criticized at all for fear of being labeled a racist, sexist, etc. Now movies, songs, shows, etc. are judged on the social issues they promote rather than the writing, acting, etc. I am definitely seeing Black Panther and I think it looks awesome, but more than half the reviews talk about the race of the characters and do not even mention the actual content of the movie. Again, that's the #PleaseLikeMe movement. Or, really, #PleaseDon'tHateMe movement. #SorryForWhatMyAncestorsDid. It's all overcompensating guilt that shouldn't be there. It's like what Patrice O'Neal said about racism: there is no bad guy to point at. Jews had Hitler. We don't have a Hitler. We have white people. And both sides know it. Do you know that most of the people that get mad at perceived racism in movies are whites? Asians really didn't care when it came to Ghost in the Shell and Death Note (maybe some Americanized Asians). Blacks didn't care about the twins in Transformers. Yeah, it sucks, but it's that guilty SJW time in society. Hopefully that overcompensation stabilizes. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 19:44:58 GMT
I find it absolutely hilarious how a number of the DCU fanboys who said nothing when "Wonder Woman" was being completely overrated because of gender politics, are now crawling from the woodwork to point out that the same thing is probably happening with "Black Panther."  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 21:21:30 GMT
I wish this movie was not made by Marvel and Disney as we all know its all about hype and no substance. I fear the backlash will be huge, its Ghostbuster all over again with an imdb score of 6.7. what people need to learn is two wrongs don't make a right. critics are giving it SJW reviews and that is wrong. casual people will retaliate by giving it the bad reviews they think it deserves. that is wrong and both parties loose real credibility. for what is worth, its ironic this movie is coming out now and the critics are praising the Majesty of africa that is wakanda after trump's idiotic comments that africa is a shit hole. see how the timing is just perfect. These are only fake ratings from trolls. When real ratings from people that have actually seen it come in we'll truly see how bad the backlash is. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 9, 2018 23:34:48 GMT
I find it absolutely hilarious how a number of the DCU fanboys who said nothing when "Wonder Woman" was being completely overrated because of gender politics, are now crawling from the woodwork to point out that the same thing is probably happening with "Black Panther." I don’t think the OP is a DC fanboy. As as a side note, if BP was bad, people wouldn’t be praising it for having an all-black cast, the same way they don’t praise Tyler Perry movies. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 23:49:45 GMT
I find it absolutely hilarious how a number of the DCU fanboys who said nothing when "Wonder Woman" was being completely overrated because of gender politics, are now crawling from the woodwork to point out that the same thing is probably happening with "Black Panther." I don’t think the OP is a DC fanboy. As as a side note, if BP was bad, people wouldn’t be praising it for having an all-black cast, the same way they don’t praise Tyler Perry movies. I didn't say the OP was a DC fanboy.  At the moment, all we can do is guess whether the movie has been overrated or not.  |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 10, 2018 6:17:49 GMT
I told you this was going to be the Wonder Woman of Marvel. The difference is Wonder Woman is a great movie, proven by the fact that it held strong at the box office week after week because audiences kept showing up in large numbers after opening weekend. It remains to be seen if Black Panther will hold strong after its opening weekend or if Black Panther will be another over-hyped and over-rated MCU movie that has a big opening weekend due to the hype but then has huge drops after word-of-mouth quickly spreads about how awful and over-rated it really is. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 10, 2018 6:19:09 GMT
I find it absolutely hilarious how a number of the DCU fanboys who said nothing when "Wonder Woman" was being completely overrated because of gender politics, are now crawling from the woodwork to point out that the same thing is probably happening with "Black Panther." The difference is Wonder Woman is a great movie, proven by the fact that it held strong at the box office week after week because audiences kept showing up in large numbers after opening weekend. It remains to be seen if Black Panther will hold strong after its opening weekend or if Black Panther will be another over-hyped and over-rated MCU movie that has a big opening weekend due to the hype but then has huge drops after word-of-mouth quickly spreads about how awful and over-rated it really is. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 10, 2018 6:37:45 GMT
I find it absolutely hilarious how a number of the DCU fanboys who said nothing when "Wonder Woman" was being completely overrated because of gender politics, are now crawling from the woodwork to point out that the same thing is probably happening with "Black Panther." The difference is Wonder Woman is a great movie As opposed to a movie no one here including you has seen? I know you will hate it no matter how good it is though because you go into any MCU movie wanting to hate it. Hate-watching seems like a huge waste of time to me, but oh well... |
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Post by sostie on Feb 10, 2018 11:38:05 GMT
I told you this was going to be the Wonder Woman of Marvel. The difference is Wonder Woman is a great movie, proven by the fact that it held strong at the box office week after week because audiences kept showing up in large numbers after opening weekend. In the US only If word of mouth "quickly" spreads how comes all the MCU films last year made more than Wonder Woman. Can't be spreading that quickly can it. |
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Post by sostie on Feb 10, 2018 11:42:48 GMT
The difference is Wonder Woman is a great movie As opposed to a movie no one here including you has seen? I know you will hate it no matter how good it is though because you go into any MCU movie wanting to hate it. Hate-watching seems like a huge waste of time to me, but oh well... Will we ever find out what he really thinks? Notice how absent he's been since the Oscar Nominations? I wonder if he'll vanish completely if Black Panther ends up topping his beloved RT 50 Greatest Super Hero Movies list? |
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Post by charzhino on Feb 10, 2018 13:09:31 GMT
The one line that I keep seeing thats really annoying is the "finally the black community will see themselves represented". That is disrespectful to all previous superhero movies and movies in general where there are many black protagonists.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 15:02:57 GMT
The one line that I keep seeing thats really annoying is the "finally the black community will see themselves represented". That is disrespectful to all previous superhero movies and movies in general where there are many black protagonists. And you weren't insulted whenever any talked about WW doing the same for women despite there being good Female led movies since the 70s? |
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Post by harpospoke on Feb 10, 2018 21:59:42 GMT
I guess we could see this coming when so many pundits were talking about BP many months ago in a way where you knew they had already decided they were going to love it. As others noted, they are just begging for backlash by overpraising it. Worst part is that BP is a great character who deserves better than being hijacked by SJWs for their ridiculous agenda. It's just going to divide his potential audience and fan base. He was one of the best characters in Civil War without any need for a political agenda. (and that movie was about politics!) Second worst part is the implication that we should all only be interested in characters that match our race. ...What a unifying message that is.  |
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