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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 13, 2018 21:21:49 GMT
Nah, it's what I said the first time. I've already "backed it up with proper logic" and your novel on the matter is irrevelant. In short, you either didn't read my post or just couldn't refute it. I just proved to you how the MCU took a bigger financial risk, brandname risk and tied over market demand risk but you just went ahead and said "Nah, I'm right because I said so". Yeah... That's a pathetic argument. Yeah, no. I made my case, read yours, and disagreed with you. The end. You're not entitled to some lengthy discourse if you wrote was drivel. And it was. I stand by my original statement. The end. Edit: also, pro tip, sparky: writing 174 pages on any given subject doesn't mean you've "proven" anything. It just means you're verbose. |
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 13, 2018 21:25:58 GMT
In short, you either didn't read my post or just couldn't refute it. I just proved to you how the MCU took a bigger financial risk, brandname risk and tied over market demand risk but you just went ahead and said "Nah, I'm right because I said so". Yeah... That's a pathetic argument. Yeah, no. I made my case, read yours, and disagreed with you. The end. You're not entitled to some lengthy discourse if you wrote was drivel. And it was. I stand by my original statement. The end. Yeah, you're obviously dodging. If it was such drivel you'd have no problems refuting it. But we both know you can't because, unlike you, I actually backed my statements with fact and numbers instead of just opinion. Fact is, I just proved that the MCU took a bigger financial risk than DC, had way less brandname recognition and had just as big a market risk. You can't refute it so you're trying to snub your way out of the argument. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 13, 2018 21:26:11 GMT
Nah, I don't want to acknowledge any of that. Fixed. Serious question: is English your first language? |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 13, 2018 21:27:22 GMT
Yeah, no. I made my case, read yours, and disagreed with you. The end. You're not entitled to some lengthy discourse if you wrote was drivel. And it was. I stand by my original statement. The end. Yeah, you're obviously dodging. If it was such drivel you'd have no problems refuting it. But we both know you can't because, unlike you, I actually backed my statements with fact and numbers instead of just opinion. Fact is, I just proved that the MCU took a bigger financial risk than DC, had way less brandname recognition and had just as big a market risk. You can't refute it so you're trying to snub your way out of the argument. You missed my edit: also, pro tip, sparky: writing 174 pages on any given subject doesn't mean you've "proven" anything. It just means you're verbose. That should clear it up for you; it was a nice way of saying that, in addition to being wrong in this respect, you're a pompous windbag. Have fun with... that. |
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 13, 2018 21:39:50 GMT
Yeah, you're obviously dodging. If it was such drivel you'd have no problems refuting it. But we both know you can't because, unlike you, I actually backed my statements with fact and numbers instead of just opinion. Fact is, I just proved that the MCU took a bigger financial risk than DC, had way less brandname recognition and had just as big a market risk. You can't refute it so you're trying to snub your way out of the argument. You missed my edit: also, pro tip, sparky: writing 174 pages on any given subject doesn't mean you've "proven" anything. It just means you're verbose. That should clear it up for you; it was a nice way of saying that, in addition to being wrong in this respect, you're a pompous windbag. Have fun with... that. Sure dude, whatever. It's obvious you're resorting to insults because you know you're unable to properly rebut my statements. I gave you a lengthy reply in order to properly explain my point. It seemed like you wanted a proper discussion, as your exact words were: "Work with me, like, the slightest bit.". But if you're not interested in a discussion of facts then fine, I have no patience for your immature name calling. I mean, pompous windbag? Seriously? How old are you? Anyway, if you ever want a decent discussion you know where to find me. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 13, 2018 22:52:36 GMT
Serious question: is English your first language? Yes, and I can recognize someone whose argument goes down to "I'm right and I'm not gonna acknowledge the possibility I'm wrong, even if the facts say otherwise". |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 13, 2018 22:56:51 GMT
You missed my edit: also, pro tip, sparky: writing 174 pages on any given subject doesn't mean you've "proven" anything. It just means you're verbose. That should clear it up for you; it was a nice way of saying that, in addition to being wrong in this respect, you're a pompous windbag. Have fun with... that. Sure dude, whatever. It's obvious you're resorting to insults because you know you're unable to properly rebut my statements. I gave you a lengthy reply in order to properly explain my point. It seemed like you wanted a proper discussion, as your exact words were: "Work with me, like, the slightest bit.". But if you're not interested in a discussion of facts then fine, I have no patience for your immature name calling. I mean, pompous windbag? Seriously? How old are you? Anyway, if you ever want a decent discussion you know where to find me. A "proper discussion," to say nothing of a "decent" one, implies an exchange of ideas, not: Me: I think X. You: I think Y. Me: okay. I think X, still. You: YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Me: still X. You: I win!!!!!!11 Nice try, though. It's not a discussion if you just dig in and expand at almost comedic length on the counterpoint I've (a) already dismissed and (b) doesn't conclusively refute my original statement -- and it can't, by definition, because we're taking about holding two differing subjective views. All I took from this is you don't understand what Newton was saying anymore than you're able to divorce yourself from verbosity and rather embarrassing MCU fanboyism. ETA: and that formersamhmd will blindly and mindlessly disagree with me under any and every circumstance, no matter what. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 13, 2018 22:58:06 GMT
Serious question: is English your first language? Yes, and I can recognize someone whose argument goes down to "I'm right and I'm not gonna acknowledge the possibility I'm wrong, even if the facts say otherwise". Based on your syntax and my experience with ESL I'm pretty much 100% sure it's not, in all honesty. Nothing to be ashamed of, and the fact that you feel compelled to lie is sad. ETA: unless there is a mitigating circumstance, such as a learning disability, e.g., dyslexia. I say this in all seriousness and in clinical terms as a trained educator, not as someone teasing you. |
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 13, 2018 23:22:37 GMT
Sure dude, whatever. It's obvious you're resorting to insults because you know you're unable to properly rebut my statements. I gave you a lengthy reply in order to properly explain my point. It seemed like you wanted a proper discussion, as your exact words were: "Work with me, like, the slightest bit.". But if you're not interested in a discussion of facts then fine, I have no patience for your immature name calling. I mean, pompous windbag? Seriously? How old are you? Anyway, if you ever want a decent discussion you know where to find me. A "proper discussion," to say nothing of a "decent" one, implies an exchange of ideas, not: Me: I think X. You: I think Y. Me: okay. I think X, still. You: YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Me: still X. You: I win!!!!!!11 Nice try, though. It's not a discussion if you just dig in and expand at almost comedic length on the counterpoint I've (a) already dismissed and (b) doesn't conclusively refute my original statement -- and it can't, by definition, because we're taking about holding two differing subjective views. All I took from this is you don't understand what Newton was saying anymore than you're able to divorce yourself from verbosity and rather embarrassing MCU fanboyism. ETA: and that formersamhmd will blindly and mindlessly disagree with me under any and every circumstance, no matter what. You initially stated that the MCU was less risky because it came about at a time when superhero movies had already been made and common place. I addressed that in my reply to you, countered it... yet all you did was close your ears and repeat that you're correct. At least I, on my part, tried to address your point. You're not even bothering to extend me the same courtesy. But then, we both know why. You're dodging me because you know I'm right and you have nothing to counter my arguments. You can sugarcoat it anyway you want, you're basically running away from me with your tail between your legs. Doesn't even matter which of us is wrong or right, it's the fact that you are unable to back up your opinion with any logical argument, let alone researched facts, and then run away and hide behind insults at the first sign of a proper rebuttal. Classic troll tactics. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 13, 2018 23:42:21 GMT
A "proper discussion," to say nothing of a "decent" one, implies an exchange of ideas, not: Me: I think X. You: I think Y. Me: okay. I think X, still. You: YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Me: still X. You: I win!!!!!!11 Nice try, though. It's not a discussion if you just dig in and expand at almost comedic length on the counterpoint I've (a) already dismissed and (b) doesn't conclusively refute my original statement -- and it can't, by definition, because we're taking about holding two differing subjective views. All I took from this is you don't understand what Newton was saying anymore than you're able to divorce yourself from verbosity and rather embarrassing MCU fanboyism. ETA: and that formersamhmd will blindly and mindlessly disagree with me under any and every circumstance, no matter what. You initially stated that the MCU was less risky because it came about at a time when superhero movies had already been made and common place. I addressed that in my reply to you, countered it... yet all you did was close your ears and repeat that you're correct. At least I, on my part, tried to address your point. You're not even bothering to extend me the same courtesy. But then, we both know why. You're dodging me because you know I'm right and you have nothing to counter my arguments. You can sugarcoat it anyway you want, you're basically running away from me with your tail between your legs. Doesn't even matter which of us is wrong or right, it's the fact that you are unable to back up your opinion with any logical argument, let alone researched facts, and then run away and hide behind insults at the first sign of a proper rebuttal. Classic troll tactics. I already backed it up. You just didn't like the answer. |
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 13, 2018 23:49:24 GMT
You initially stated that the MCU was less risky because it came about at a time when superhero movies had already been made and common place. I addressed that in my reply to you, countered it... yet all you did was close your ears and repeat that you're correct. At least I, on my part, tried to address your point. You're not even bothering to extend me the same courtesy. But then, we both know why. You're dodging me because you know I'm right and you have nothing to counter my arguments. You can sugarcoat it anyway you want, you're basically running away from me with your tail between your legs. Doesn't even matter which of us is wrong or right, it's the fact that you are unable to back up your opinion with any logical argument, let alone researched facts, and then run away and hide behind insults at the first sign of a proper rebuttal. Classic troll tactics. I already backed it up. You just didn't like the answer. I must have missed it. If you truly did back it up, it shouldn't be too hard for you to copy and paste it. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 13, 2018 23:50:30 GMT
I already backed it up. You just didn't like the answer. I must have missed it. If you truly did back it up, it shouldn't be too hard for you to copy and paste it. Also, you DIDN'T adequately address my point and then called me a troll. At least my calling you a windbag pertained to the discussion at hand. So: fuck you? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 0:04:06 GMT
Yes, and I can recognize someone whose argument goes down to "I'm right and I'm not gonna acknowledge the possibility I'm wrong, even if the facts say otherwise". Based on your syntax and my experience with ESL I'm pretty much 100% sure it's not, Your experiences are poor, then. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 14, 2018 0:07:41 GMT
Based on your syntax and my experience with ESL I'm pretty much 100% sure it's not, Your experiences are poor, then. See? Even that. Your word choice, sentence structure, limited vocabulary, etc. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 0:09:05 GMT
Your experiences are poor, then. See? Even that. Your word choice, sentence structure, limited vocabulary, etc. Which goes to show, your ESL experiences and skill aren't much at all. Must be the skin failure. |
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Post by raiderjedi on Feb 14, 2018 0:15:44 GMT
It just makes it the minority opinion. Why would the studio responsible for the biggest most successful inter-connected universe of movies change what works to satisfy the illogical wants of a few internet trolls?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 14, 2018 0:15:57 GMT
See? Even that. Your word choice, sentence structure, limited vocabulary, etc. Which goes to show, your ESL experiences and skill aren't much at all. Must be the skin failure. The repetition of the same phrases, the not-quite-right-but-almost (mis)use of words, etc. My "ESL experiences and skill"? ESL isn't a "skill." And on and on. |
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 14, 2018 0:21:03 GMT
I must have missed it. If you truly did back it up, it shouldn't be too hard for you to copy and paste it. Also, you DIDN'T adequately address my point and then called me a troll. At least my calling you a windbag pertained to the discussion at hand. So: fuck you? Hey, I'm the one extending the olive branch here. I'm asking you to repost your (supposed) proof so I can address it (again). You started hurling insults my way after I took the time to write you a detailed post trying to address your point and explain my side. And now you're pissed at me calling you a troll? You've got some nerve kid. If you don't want to be called a troll then don't act like one. If you don't want to get name-called then maybe don't start. I'm willing to start from square one: Post your point (properly backed up) and I'll readdress it. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 14, 2018 0:27:15 GMT
Also, you DIDN'T adequately address my point and then called me a troll. At least my calling you a windbag pertained to the discussion at hand. So: fuck you? Hey, I'm the one extending the olive branch here. I'm asking you to repost your (supposed) proof so I can address it (again). You started hurling insults my way after I took the time to write you a detailed post trying to address your point and explain my side. And now you're pissed at me calling you a troll? If you don't want to be called a troll then don't act like one. I'm willing to start from square one: Post your point (properly backed up) and I'll readdress it. Yo, who the fuck do you think you are? I don't owe you anything, and I've already swatted away your stupid claims like a fly. If you want to know how I feel, go back and reread the thread. If you need someone to share your confusion with, go talk to your priest or your shrink or someone other than me. Stop taking out your incel aggression at me over what was never even a controversial statement to begin with. It was MANIFESTLY more risky to make Star Wars in '77 than TLJ a year ago, you absolute CLOWN. (And Disney still managed to piss off half of the people who saw it.) I don't have to "prove" that anymore than Newton had to "prove" or contextualize the quote to which I referred. You either understand it or you don't. Writing some pissy novella about your misunderstanding of what I'm saying doesn't mean I owe an equally long essay explaining what I've patiently explained -- what? Four, five, six times? Honestly, piss off. If you want to thump your chest like a gorilla, call me a troll, pretend like you've done anything here other than blather and waste everyone else's time, go for it, sparky. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 14, 2018 0:41:19 GMT
Hey, I'm the one extending the olive branch here. I'm asking you to repost your (supposed) proof so I can address it (again). You started hurling insults my way after I took the time to write you a detailed post trying to address your point and explain my side. And now you're pissed at me calling you a troll? If you don't want to be called a troll then don't act like one. I'm willing to start from square one: Post your point (properly backed up) and I'll readdress it. Yo, who the fuck do you think you are? I don't owe you anything, and I've already swatted away your stupid claims like a fly. If you want to know how I feel, go back and reread the thread. If you need someone to share your confusion with, go talk to your priest or your shrink or someone other than me. Stop taking out your incel aggression at me over what was never even a controversial statement to begin with. It was MANIFESTLY more risky to make Star Wars in '77 than TLJ a year ago, you absolute CLOWN. (And Disney still managed to piss off half of the people who saw it.) I don't have to "prove" that anymore than Newton had to "prove" or contextualize the quote to which I referred. You either understand it or you don't. Writing some pissy novella about your misunderstanding of what I'm saying doesn't mean I owe an equally long essay explaining what I've patiently explained -- what? Four, five, six times? Honestly, piss off. If you want to thump your chest like a gorilla, call me a troll, pretend like you've done anything here other than blather and waste everyone else's time, go for it, sparky. Meltdown time folks. |
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