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Post by Terrapin Station on Feb 11, 2018 22:58:58 GMT
Weird one in that I agree with the reviews that are ripping apart how stupid and arbitrary the film's science is--often as expressed by its scientist characters, and I agree re how contrived and forced it is at times . . . but I still enjoyed it a lot despite all of that.
It needs to be watched as a mega-budget B flick that wants to be something of a cross between the Alien films (especially the first one) and a trendy haunted house flick kind of in the vein of the William Castle remakes from the late 90s/early 2000s (House on Haunted Hill, 13 Ghosts, etc.), with a lot of fun nods to some cult genre films and even some unexpected black comedy. You can't approach it in a hard SciFi uber-nerd manner, because it wasn't done in that spirit.
Heck the Space station they're on is even very intentionally presented more or less like a submarine at times. It's a fun film, not a treatise on speculative physics, which is a good thing because intellectually it's a pretty dumb film.
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Post by Marv on Feb 11, 2018 23:19:48 GMT
If its distractingly obvious that stuff is wrong then it sucks. But if this is just astrophysicists pointing out stuff that the average person couldn't understand anyhow then it makes no difference to me.
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Post by johnspartan on Feb 11, 2018 23:32:58 GMT
If its distractingly obvious that stuff is wrong then it sucks. But if this is just astrophysicists pointing out stuff that the average person couldn't understand anyhow then it makes no difference to me. That's what it is, simply an entertaining sci fi film not to be put under the microscope. It's a turn off your brain movie that works on that level. A lot of butthurt people seemed to be expecting Stanley Kubrik from this little Netflix B movie.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 23:51:36 GMT
If its distractingly obvious that stuff is wrong then it sucks. But if this is just astrophysicists pointing out stuff that the average person couldn't understand anyhow then it makes no difference to me. That's what it is, simply an entertaining sci fi film not to be put under the microscope. It's a turn off your brain movie that works on that level. A lot of butthurt people seemed to be expecting Stanley Kubrik from this little Netflix B movie. I think a lot of people are expecting the same quality that they saw in the first two movies, and it's falling short. Not that I rate 10 Cloverfield Lane at all.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 12, 2018 0:09:37 GMT
6/10
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Post by johnspartan on Feb 12, 2018 0:21:03 GMT
That's what it is, simply an entertaining sci fi film not to be put under the microscope. It's a turn off your brain movie that works on that level. A lot of butthurt people seemed to be expecting Stanley Kubrik from this little Netflix B movie. I think a lot of people are expecting the same quality that they saw in the first two movies, and it's falling short. Not that I rate 10 Cloverfield Lane at all. Paradox IS on the same level as the first two, they are nothing special.
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Post by IAMe on Feb 12, 2018 9:33:08 GMT
IMO for a found-footage monster movie Cloverfield is okay and 10 Cloverfield Lane is a pretty good thriller despite the ending and not properly fitting into the Cloverfield franchise. The Cloverfield Paradox as a stand-alone film doesn't make much sense even with the BS cop-out of alternative dimensions, and as part of the Cloverfield universe just feels forced and contrived, should've had the entire Cloverfield franchise as an anthology similar to Black Mirror.
Without being attached to the Cloverfield franchise/name The Cloverfield Paradox, originally called God Particle, would be an utterly forgettable and mediocre at best direct-to-DVD sci-fi movie.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 12, 2018 11:50:00 GMT
I thought the movie was fine and the reviews were overly harsh considering all the other bad sci-fi out there.
It does what Cloverfield movies do, it kept me going "huh". While not as good as the previous entry, I would argue it made about as much sense.
Loved the score too.
I also want to see how all the stuff links together.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 12, 2018 11:52:37 GMT
IMO for a found-footage monster movie Cloverfield is okay and 10 Cloverfield Lane is a pretty good thriller despite the ending and not properly fitting into the Cloverfield franchise. The Cloverfield Paradox as a stand-alone film doesn't make much sense even with the BS cop-out of alternative dimensions, and as part of the Cloverfield universe just feels forced and contrived, should've had the entire Cloverfield franchise as an anthology similar to Black Mirror. Without being attached to the Cloverfield franchise/name The Cloverfield Paradox, originally called God Particle, would be an utterly forgettable and mediocre at best direct-to-DVD sci-fi movie. It seems like Black Mirror is at some level interconnected too.
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Post by johnspartan on Feb 12, 2018 11:59:17 GMT
"Paradox" is a prequel to the first "Cloverfield," I'm not sure people understand this.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Feb 12, 2018 12:07:04 GMT
"Paradox" is a prequel to the first "Cloverfield," I'm not sure people understand this. Except that the first Cloverfield is not facing the start of dystopian conditions and there are more monsters. Further the John Goodman character is related some kind of way to the guy they are interviewing in Paradox. The even have them looking alike except he's a younger version.
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Post by IAMe on Feb 12, 2018 12:36:22 GMT
IMO for a found-footage monster movie Cloverfield is okay and 10 Cloverfield Lane is a pretty good thriller despite the ending and not properly fitting into the Cloverfield franchise. The Cloverfield Paradox as a stand-alone film doesn't make much sense even with the BS cop-out of alternative dimensions, and as part of the Cloverfield universe just feels forced and contrived, should've had the entire Cloverfield franchise as an anthology similar to Black Mirror. Without being attached to the Cloverfield franchise/name The Cloverfield Paradox, originally called God Particle, would be an utterly forgettable and mediocre at best direct-to-DVD sci-fi movie. It seems like Black Mirror is at some level interconnected too. True, Black Mirror seems to be at least tenuously connected. I would've preferred if the Cloverfield franchise kept with subtle connections between the movies, such as Slusho!, rather than what happened with The Cloverfield Paradox, especially the laughable last scene.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 16, 2021 19:42:43 GMT
Entertaining but . . .
I like Science Fiction. And inspite of the obvious drawbacks, I found this movie entertaining. But . . .
- My biggest complaint is it's extremely over acted. Real astronauts are highly trained, and goal and process oriented. They know "going in" their jobs are dangerous and risky. They don't flip out and scream, yell, and cry everytime things don't go as planned. This crew does it virtually the whole movie.
- Secondly, apparently in the future, space crews aren't selected based on merit. They are chosen based on nationality, race and sex. There is a British scientist, a German, a Brazilian, a Russian, a Chinese scientist, an Irish technician and an American. Two blacks, two whites, an Hispanic and an Oriental. Five men and two women. (Wait no gay person ??) This is not a routine mission. This is THE mission to save the Earth. These are best of the best?
- When Tam (the Chinese scientist) dies, her compartment fills with water, forcing pressure to break the seal on the outer hatch, causing the water to freeze immediately, killing her --- immediately. First of all, water doesn't freeze in outer space. It boils. Secondly, if it did, it wouldn't freeze that fast. Thirdly, even if it did freeze, it wouldn't kill her immediately. When she does freeze, the crew goes from having another over emotional hissy fit, to calmly discussing their next move having nothing to do with Tam. They just spent a half an hour dissecting a complete stranger impailed in a wall with cables and wires, and bringing her back to complete functionality. And they are just going to abandon a beloved crew member? Doesn't make any sense.
- When three crew members decide to separate a damaged part of the space station from the viable part, they are moving, jumping and falling like there is gravity. There is no gravity in outer space. They couldn't move, jump and fall like that. We've seen it a million times during real space walks.
You would think with all the time and money spent making movies, they would get these things straight. They wouldn't even have to hire a science consultant. All of this is available on the Internet.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 16, 2021 19:43:14 GMT
I didn't really like it.
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Post by spooner5020 on Apr 16, 2021 20:25:57 GMT
Are the sequels still gonna be canon after the official sequel?
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Post by Vits on Apr 17, 2021 11:30:31 GMT
8/10
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Post by movieliker on Apr 17, 2021 18:35:17 GMT
6/10
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