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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 5:50:50 GMT
WW > BP. Better filmed action scenes, more investing story, more heart, better 3rd act and more memorable score. The dynamic between WW and Steve Trevor is stronger than the BP romance. Agreed. I just watched an online version of Black Panther. Wonder Woman is definitely a much better movie than Black Panther. Wonder Woman had a better story, more heart, more characters that were likable, and even better action scenes (nothing in Black Panther even comes close to the No Man's Land scene). Obviously biased... |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 18, 2018 5:52:16 GMT
Hard to say they were both really good but I'd probably give a nudge to Black Panther as it had a better villain. Wonder Woman did have the better hero though so...I'd probably need to rewatch it. Not hard to say. I just watched an online version of Black Panther. Wonder Woman is definitely a much better movie than Black Panther.
Yeah but you would’ve said the same exact thing even if Black Panther had been the greatest movie of all time. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 18, 2018 5:54:40 GMT
Agreed. Killmonger's motivation was "Our people have always been oppressed so now it's time we took advantage of these superior weapons and become the oppressors". Sounds pretty lame. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 18, 2018 5:57:09 GMT
Agreed. I just watched an online version of Black Panther. Wonder Woman is definitely a much better movie than Black Panther. Wonder Woman had a better story, more heart, more characters that were likable, and even better action scenes (nothing in Black Panther even comes close to the No Man's Land scene). Obviously biased... People don’t get much more biased than DC-Fan. I mean, I personally wouldn’t be surprised if Black Panther wasn’t as good as Wonder Woman, I loved Wonder Woman. But DC-Fan could never say a MCU movie is better than any DC movie even if it was a masterpiece. Everytime a MCU movie comes out he downloads or streams it illegally and hate-watch it, so there’s no way he could possibly enjoy any MCU movie. Yet some people here act like he isn’t the worst fanboy on this board just because they also dislike MCU and/or prefer DC over MCU as well. If he were a MCU fanboy rather than a DC fanboy they would all agree he’s the most rabid fanboy on this board. No doubt about it. A lot of hypocrisy on this board. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 6:04:19 GMT
People don’t get much more biased than DC-Fan. I mean, I personally wouldn’t be surprised if Black Panther wasn’t as good as Wonder Woman, I loved Wonder Woman. But DC-Fan could never say a MCU movie is better than any DC movie even if it was a masterpiece. Yeah dcfan should change his name to 'DC-idolize-r but also anti-mcu', that would be more honest. It's like oh ok, i get where youre coming from now. |
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Post by scabab on Feb 18, 2018 6:56:16 GMT
Yeah, I mean Wonder Woman is better than Black Panther in some ways and Black Panther is better than Wonder Woman in other ways but without any offence intended it was pretty obvious that DC Fan was gonna make that kind of response.
Not that he's the only one who acts this way but when people are biased to this degree then it just becomes predictable and not really worth taking the time to discuss something.
Infinity War is going to be terrible, Ant-man and the Wasp is going to be terrible and Aquaman is going to be great and so much better than them etc.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 18, 2018 8:07:47 GMT
Yeah, I mean Wonder Woman is better than Black Panther in some ways and Black Panther is better than Wonder Woman in other ways but without any offence intended it was pretty obvious that DC Fan was gonna make that kind of response. Not that he's the only one who acts this way but when people are biased to this degree then it just becomes predictable and not really worth taking the time to discuss something. The RT audience score for Wonder Woman is 88% and for Black Panther is 75%. So how am I biased when I agree with what most of the general audience says? |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 18, 2018 8:14:04 GMT
Yeah, I mean Wonder Woman is better than Black Panther in some ways and Black Panther is better than Wonder Woman in other ways but without any offence intended it was pretty obvious that DC Fan was gonna make that kind of response. Not that he's the only one who acts this way but when people are biased to this degree then it just becomes predictable and not really worth taking the time to discuss something. The RT audience score for Wonder Woman is 88% and for Black Panther is 75%. So how am I biased when I agree with what most of the general audience says? Most of the general audience says Black Panther is a 1/10 movie? That’s news to me. Hell, most of the general audience says Black Panther is not a good movie? That’s news to me. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 18, 2018 9:02:25 GMT
The RT audience score for Wonder Woman is 88% and for Black Panther is 75%. So how am I biased when I agree with what most of the general audience says? Most of the general audience says Black Panther is a 1/10 movie? That’s news to me. Hell, most of the general audience says Black Panther is not a good movie? That’s news to me. The subject of this thread is about which is a better movie - Black Panther or Wonder Woman. And most of the general audience thinks that Wonder Woman is a better movie than Black Panther. And I agree with most of the genera audience. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 18, 2018 9:16:55 GMT
Most of the general audience says Black Panther is a 1/10 movie? That’s news to me. Hell, most of the general audience says Black Panther is not a good movie? That’s news to me. The subject of this thread is about which is a better movie - Black Panther or Wonder Woman. And most of the general audience thinks that Wonder Woman is a better movie than Black Panther. And I agree with most of the genera audience. All of that based on Black Panther having a lower RT audience score than Wonder Woman? Over 4000+ trolls gave Black Panther 1/10 on IMDb before it even came out, it wouldn’t be too surprising if they gave it the lowest rating on RT as well. I would take the RT audience score for Black Panther with a grain of salt if I were you, but of course you won’t because it being lower than Wonder Woman brings you too much satisfaction. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 10:11:05 GMT
WW > BP. Better filmed action scenes, more investing story, more heart, better 3rd act and more memorable score. The dynamic between WW and Steve Trevor is stronger than the BP romance. Agreed. I just watched an online version of Black Panther. No you didn't. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 10:11:38 GMT
Hard to say they were both really good but I'd probably give a nudge to Black Panther as it had a better villain. Wonder Woman did have the better hero though so...I'd probably need to rewatch it. "Our people have always been oppressed so it's time we took advantage of these superior weapons and become the oppressors".
Better than Ares' motivation. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 10:12:40 GMT
Yeah, I mean Wonder Woman is better than Black Panther in some ways and Black Panther is better than Wonder Woman in other ways but without any offence intended it was pretty obvious that DC Fan was gonna make that kind of response. Not that he's the only one who acts this way but when people are biased to this degree then it just becomes predictable and not really worth taking the time to discuss something. The RT audience score for Wonder Woman is 88% and for Black Panther is 75%. So how am I biased when I agree with what most of the general audience says? Those audience ratings were skewed by racist groups biased against BP to begin with. And holdovers from those "Let's sabotage the MCU" groups. |
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Post by sostie on Feb 18, 2018 10:38:07 GMT
Yeah, I mean Wonder Woman is better than Black Panther in some ways and Black Panther is better than Wonder Woman in other ways but without any offence intended it was pretty obvious that DC Fan was gonna make that kind of response. Not that he's the only one who acts this way but when people are biased to this degree then it just becomes predictable and not really worth taking the time to discuss something. The RT audience score for Wonder Woman is 88% and for Black Panther is 75%. So how am I biased when I agree with what most of the general audience says? So you'd agree that Thor Ragnarock, Spider-Man Homecoming and GOTG2 (all 88%) are as good as Wonder Woman...and Avengers, Winter Soldier, Civil War, Iron Man and Guardians Of The Galaxy (88%+) are better ? Yes or no? Or are you biased? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 18, 2018 10:48:44 GMT
The RT audience score for Wonder Woman is 88% and for Black Panther is 75%. So how am I biased when I agree with what most of the general audience says? Those audience ratings were skewed by racist groups biased against BP to begin with. And holdovers from those "Let's sabotage the MCU" groups. The critic ratings for BP are skewed by critics who are too scared to give BP a bad rating for fear of being called a racist by the SJWs. |
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Post by charzhino on Feb 18, 2018 10:50:58 GMT
To you, anytime a villain isn't the real star of the movie they're "underdeveloped". He could have used more screentime since the entire film is centrered around BP and Killmongers opposing ideals. We dont get enough from Killmonger. Some poster earlier said we can feel sympathetic towards him, I dont know how thats possible since whenever hes on screen hes just playing the cocky arrogant shtick. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 18, 2018 10:59:50 GMT
Those audience ratings were skewed by racist groups biased against BP to begin with. And holdovers from those "Let's sabotage the MCU" groups. The critic ratings for BP are skewed by critics who are too scared to give BP a bad rating for fear of being called a racist by the SJWs. The critic ratings for Wonder Woman were skewed by critics who were too scared to give WW a bad rating for fear of being called misogynists by the SJWs. I don’t actually believe that, just playing along... |
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Post by charzhino on Feb 18, 2018 11:07:03 GMT
Eh, besides the WW and Steve romance. I'd say BP easily has a better story, more heart, action, 3rd act, score and villain. Say what you want about Killmonger but he was way better than that embarrassing villain Ares. Killmonger was alot better than Ares. The rest of the factors can be reasonably argued either way for which film did it better, I wouldnt say one is easily better than the other. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 11:11:47 GMT
Those audience ratings were skewed by racist groups biased against BP to begin with. And holdovers from those "Let's sabotage the MCU" groups. The critic ratings for BP are skewed by critics who are too scared to give BP a bad rating for fear of being called a racist by the SJWs. You mean like what they did for WW? You're holding WW to the same standard? Good. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 11:13:14 GMT
To you, anytime a villain isn't the real star of the movie they're "underdeveloped". He could have used more screentime since the entire film is centrered around BP and Killmongers opposing ideals. Their ideological conflict is part of it, but the real conflict in the film is T'Challa's struggles with being a good King and wanting to maintain his human decency at the same time. The thing with Killmonger is NOT the one and only conflict in the film. |
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