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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 18:48:21 GMT
They had this song on the radio at work and someone commented, "this song is weird:it's about a guy."
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Post by bravomailer on Feb 15, 2018 18:58:18 GMT
So, the secret's out after 48 years?
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Post by someguy on Feb 15, 2018 19:05:17 GMT
You should give them a proper kicking for interrupting the song.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Feb 15, 2018 21:00:42 GMT
Lola is a track on a great Kinks album.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 2:39:24 GMT
Then I heard another person I work with, when the song came on the radio, they said 'this song is weird they're singing about appliances'
That happened when they played the song "money for nothing"
Personally I would notice the instrumentation of each song, and criticize the song based on that or like the song based on that. I would notice that waaaaay before saying that the lyrics are weird cuz the song's 'about something weird'
Which by the way I don't think either song is weird in any way.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 17, 2018 3:38:59 GMT
You have a job? *Mind = blown*
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 17, 2018 6:16:09 GMT
Great song. Funny lyrics.
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Post by bravomailer on Feb 17, 2018 14:11:43 GMT
I'm surprised Lola got airplay back in 1970 as homosexuality and transvestitism were taboo subjects. Perhaps station managers didn't notice until it had caught on or thought the song playfully avoided specifics: "I'm glad I'm a man and so is Lola."
I wonder if it's taboo now for poking fun at homosexuality and transvestitism.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Feb 17, 2018 14:15:14 GMT
The fact "Lola", "You Really Got Me" and "All Day and All of the Night" we're pretty much the only three Kinks songs I heard growing up--those are the only tunes that US radio tended to play, and they played those three to death, completely turned me off of the Kinks for most of my life.
It's frustrating, because it turns out that I actually like the Kinks a lot, but I didn't discover that until I was already in my 50s and I finally started checking out other tunes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 21:25:18 GMT
Nothing is weird about it, it's so awesome though.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 18, 2018 3:34:04 GMT
The fact "Lola", "You Really Got Me" and "All Day and All of the Night" we're pretty much the only three Kinks songs I heard growing up--those are the only tunes that US radio tended to play, and they played those three to death, completely turned me off of the Kinks for most of my life. It's frustrating, because it turns out that I actually like the Kinks a lot, but I didn't discover that until I was already in my 50s and I finally started checking out other tunes. The Kinks are in my top 5 bands of all time. They really got shafted in the US because of the ban that prohibited them from touring here during their peak years. It also killed their radio airplay beyond those three songs. But the run of albums they had from Kontroversy in '65 to Muswell Hillbillies in '71 was as good as any band of that era outside The Beatles. |
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Post by dougb on Feb 18, 2018 15:55:48 GMT
The fact "Lola", "You Really Got Me" and "All Day and All of the Night" we're pretty much the only three Kinks songs I heard growing up--those are the only tunes that US radio tended to play, and they played those three to death, completely turned me off of the Kinks for most of my life. It's frustrating, because it turns out that I actually like the Kinks a lot, but I didn't discover that until I was already in my 50s and I finally started checking out other tunes. I never thought the Kinks would go down well in the US as they are such a Quintessentially British band. Not as universal as the other "invasion" bands. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 18, 2018 16:42:15 GMT
The fact "Lola", "You Really Got Me" and "All Day and All of the Night" we're pretty much the only three Kinks songs I heard growing up--those are the only tunes that US radio tended to play, and they played those three to death, completely turned me off of the Kinks for most of my life. It's frustrating, because it turns out that I actually like the Kinks a lot, but I didn't discover that until I was already in my 50s and I finally started checking out other tunes. I never thought the Kinks would go down well in the US as they are such a Quintessentially British band. Not as universal as the other "invasion" bands. I think The Kinks's "British-ness" is frequently overstated. The majority of their lyrics dealt with either universal or personal subjects rather than national or provincial ones (really, their album titles--Village Green... & Arthur especially alluded more to nationality than the actual songs did). Musically, most everything they did was derivations of popular blues, rock, pop, and psychedelia; they were very much a part of the sonic zeitgeist of the time. However, their superiority was in their gift for indelible hooks and melodies, again I'd say second only to The Beatles from that time, and melodies/hooks matter far more in pop music in terms of universal appeal-ability than do lyrical themes. I really can't imagine people disliking these songs solely because they were about British themes: To me, their most "British" albums were those from their "theatrical" era, which most American and British fans/critics consider their worst period. |
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Post by someguy on Feb 18, 2018 16:47:30 GMT
I'm surprised Lola got airplay back in 1970 as homosexuality and transvestitism were taboo subjects. Perhaps station managers didn't notice until it had caught on or thought the song playfully avoided specifics: "I'm glad I'm a man and so is Lola." I wonder if it's taboo now for poking fun at homosexuality and transvestitism. Then again, "Walk on the Wild Side" by Lou Reed came out only a couple years later, got plenty of airplay, and seems more taboo than "Lola". Both are great songs. |
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Post by dougb on Feb 18, 2018 18:01:41 GMT
I never thought the Kinks would go down well in the US as they are such a Quintessentially British band. Not as universal as the other "invasion" bands. I think The Kinks's "British-ness" is frequently overstated. The majority of their lyrics dealt with either universal or personal subjects rather than national or provincial ones (really, their album titles--Village Green... & Arthur especially alluded more to nationality than the actual songs did). Musically, most everything they did was derivations of popular blues, rock, pop, and psychedelia; they were very much a part of the sonic zeitgeist of the time. However, their superiority was in their gift for indelible hooks and melodies, again I'd say second only to The Beatles from that time, and melodies/hooks matter far more in pop music in terms of universal appeal-ability than do lyrical themes. I really can't imagine people disliking these songs solely because they were about British themes: To me, their most "British" albums were those from their "theatrical" era, which most American and British fans/critics consider their worst period. Don't tell Ray that, it's always been his convenient excuse along with not being allowed to tour there for years for lack of US success. Have to say it's probably more of a music hall tradition in their music which makes them so British. It's like the whimsy of the Friars and Canterbury early prog bands that didn't garner much success in the US, just as coming in the other direction Southern Rock in something that has not had much success in the UK. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Feb 19, 2018 3:20:41 GMT
I think The Kinks's "British-ness" is frequently overstated. The majority of their lyrics dealt with either universal or personal subjects rather than national or provincial ones (really, their album titles--Village Green... & Arthur especially alluded more to nationality than the actual songs did). Musically, most everything they did was derivations of popular blues, rock, pop, and psychedelia; they were very much a part of the sonic zeitgeist of the time. However, their superiority was in their gift for indelible hooks and melodies, again I'd say second only to The Beatles from that time, and melodies/hooks matter far more in pop music in terms of universal appeal-ability than do lyrical themes. I really can't imagine people disliking these songs solely because they were about British themes: To me, their most "British" albums were those from their "theatrical" era, which most American and British fans/critics consider their worst period. <iframe width="10.600000000000023" height="6.899999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 10.6px; height: 6.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_89820569"></iframe> <iframe width="10.600000000000023" height="6.899999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 10.6px; height: 6.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 469px; top: -944px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_13841899"></iframe> <iframe width="10.600000000000023" height="6.899999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 10.6px; height: 6.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: -656px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_55860658"></iframe> <iframe width="10.600000000000023" height="6.899999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 10.6px; height: 6.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 469px; top: -656px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78179200"></iframe> Don't tell Ray that, it's always been his convenient excuse along with not being allowed to tour there for years for lack of US success. Have to say it's probably more of a music hall tradition in their music which makes them so British. It's like the whimsy of the Friars and Canterbury early prog bands that didn't garner much success in the US, just as coming in the other direction Southern Rock in something that has not had much success in the UK. The tour ban I can buy, because it also killed their ability to effectively promote themselves here, period; but I don't buy the "too British" thing. It's like in film where Japan used to say Ozu was "the most Japanese" filmmaker and couldn't appeal to those outside the country; but when his films finally got wide enough distribution, especially on home video, he suddenly became one of the most beloved of all international directors. Turns out his initial lack of international popularity had far more to do with the inability of people to see his films rather than him being "too Japanese." I think the same is true for The Kinks. FWIW, I do think there are genres whose appeal could be limited to a country (or part of the country), but I just don't think that's the case with The Kinks because their sound was extremely contemporary and their skills were the type that should've had mass appeal. They were essentially the first power pop band. |
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