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Post by kuatorises on Mar 6, 2017 15:15:07 GMT
Still, isn't it a bit sad that easily the second best Nightmare (in my opinion) is about Craven telling us how he feels about the whole sequel business? Not to mention that even after that New Line just went and produced the godawful Freddy vs Jason. Eh, not really. Film makers almost always say that about sequels to their work. It'd be more surprising if he liked some of them. I think it's good that he made a statement rather than do what someone else wanted him to do. I always liked part 2 myself. 3 is ok sans comedy. 1, 2 and 7 are 3 different takes on the same idea and the only ones I like in the series. I do too. This is arguably Freddy at his most terrifying. I always liked the comedy in some of the sequels even though it didn't fit the tone of the original.
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Post by Times Up on Mar 6, 2017 17:25:28 GMT
Eh, not really. Film makers almost always say that about sequels to their work. It'd be more surprising if he liked some of them. I think it's good that he made a statement rather than do what someone else wanted him to do. I always liked part 2 myself. 3 is ok sans comedy. 1, 2 and 7 are 3 different takes on the same idea and the only ones I like in the series. I do too. This is arguably Freddy at his most terrifying. I always liked the comedy in some of the sequels even though it didn't fit the tone of the original. Yes I agree, Freddy was still scary in this one. I got a soft spot for campy horror movies, but I think NoES was far more effective as a cerebral horror film.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 6, 2017 19:49:44 GMT
I do too. This is arguably Freddy at his most terrifying. I always liked the comedy in some of the sequels even though it didn't fit the tone of the original. Yes I agree, Freddy was still scary in this one. I got s soft spot for campy horror movies either, but I think NoES was far more effective as a cerebral horror film. I have to admit, I do find the comedy sequels to be somewhat of a guilty pleasure. I don't know why they decided to go that direction, but it amused me.
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Post by Times Up on Mar 6, 2017 21:04:24 GMT
Yes I agree, Freddy was still scary in this one. I got s soft spot for campy horror movies either, but I think NoES was far more effective as a cerebral horror film. I have to admit, I do find the comedy sequels to be somewhat of a guilty pleasure. I don't know why they decided to go that direction, but it amused me. Seems the safer route, I guess. If you can't do quality go comedy. Growing up, while I overall like both the Friday the 13th and Halloween series better because they were more serious, I actually liked the original NoES and NN better than any of those (except maybe the original Halloween, but even there I much prefer the story of NoES even if the film is a notch below Halloween.)
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 7, 2017 15:47:15 GMT
I have to admit, I do find the comedy sequels to be somewhat of a guilty pleasure. I don't know why they decided to go that direction, but it amused me. Seems the safer route, I guess. If you can't do quality go comedy. Growing up, while I overall like both the Friday the 13th and Halloween series better because they were more serious, I actually liked the original NoES and NN better than any of those (except maybe the original Halloween, but even there I much prefer the story of NoES even if the film is a notch below Halloween.) I'm not sure if I call flipping series on its head and doing a complete 180 in tone is what I'd call a safe route. Growing up I always preferred the Friday the 13th movies, because I thought Jason was scarier. But I have come to really dislike that series. There's just nothing to it. It's boring and mindless. I prefer Freddy way more now. I do agree with you that 1, 2, and 7 are the best in terms of being straight horror, but I do enjoy the series as a whole. I like Halloween 1, 2, and H2O. I think they work very well as a series.
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Post by Times Up on Mar 7, 2017 16:26:39 GMT
Seems the safer route, I guess. If you can't do quality go comedy. Growing up, while I overall like both the Friday the 13th and Halloween series better because they were more serious, I actually liked the original NoES and NN better than any of those (except maybe the original Halloween, but even there I much prefer the story of NoES even if the film is a notch below Halloween.) I'm not sure if I call flipping series on its head and doing a complete 180 in tone is what I'd call a safe route. Growing up I always preferred the Friday the 13th movies, because I thought Jason was scarier. But I have come to really dislike that series. There's just nothing to it. It's boring and mindless. I prefer Freddy way more now. I do agree with you that 1, 2, and 7 are the best in terms of being straight horror, but I do enjoy the series as a whole. I like Halloween 1, 2, and H2O. I think they work very well as a series. I see what you mean. I meant quality wise it was a safer bet. I think that's why action films tend to go comedy after awhile hoping to avoid critical panning.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 7, 2017 17:03:08 GMT
I'm not sure if I call flipping series on its head and doing a complete 180 in tone is what I'd call a safe route. Growing up I always preferred the Friday the 13th movies, because I thought Jason was scarier. But I have come to really dislike that series. There's just nothing to it. It's boring and mindless. I prefer Freddy way more now. I do agree with you that 1, 2, and 7 are the best in terms of being straight horror, but I do enjoy the series as a whole. I like Halloween 1, 2, and H2O. I think they work very well as a series. I see what you mean. I meant wuslity wise it was a daffer bet. I think that's why action films tend to go comedy after awhile hoping to avoid critical panning. I think you meant safer, which I can agree with, but I googled daffer and was horrified by the urban dictionary definition.
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Post by Marv on Mar 7, 2017 23:05:09 GMT
As others said...the studio changed the ending and it doesn't really fit with the climax. I don't really like the whole 'it was all a dream' thing. I prefer to think of the scene once Nancy comes out the door with her mother as another separate dream sometime later once Freddy had regained strength.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 24, 2017 9:25:31 GMT
the ending of A Nightmare on Elm Street. Basically, Nancy thought she had awoken when the alarm clock went off and didn t realize it was the dream world until the car scene. This is the most likely explanation. When I was younger, I thought Freddy reentered the dream world through Marge (who was sleeping) and the rest is possibly Marge's dream. I don't know. That ending is a big, fat mess.
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