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Post by charzhino on Mar 1, 2018 15:40:48 GMT
Any film series follows a formula. Burton's Batmans followed a formula. Foxs 2 Fantastic 4 films followed a formula. Xmen follow a formula. Its whether you find the attributes of that formula appealing and artistic enough.
Problem with DCEU is they still dont have any formula after 5 films. Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad and JL are all so different its hard to connect the 4 outside common characters. They dont know what they want to be
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 1, 2018 17:06:18 GMT
Goofy? I think you're confusing quality with tone. Just because origins and x3 were bad movies didn't mean they were a different tone. Give me an example of goofiness in Origins. The whole Wolverine vs Blob boxing scene Not really. It was a light scene and Blob did act like a doofus but can't really call it goofy. At least not enough to change the entire tone of the movie.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 1, 2018 17:07:07 GMT
I love the MCU. They make great movies, but they all do follow the same formula. Sure, they are different as far as cast and story, but they look the same and have the same tone. What they have done is successful, so why change it? This is not to say that they do not take risks. People seem to forget that movies like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man were going to bomb because no one cared at all about the characters. They ended up being very successful, but they ended up being so successful because they kept to their formula. And I never said the MCU didn't have a formula. My point was that DC and Fox films are even more formulaic since their movies are more similar to each other than MCU's movies are. Do you disagree with this?
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Post by charzhino on Mar 1, 2018 17:50:27 GMT
The whole Wolverine vs Blob boxing scene Not really. It was a light scene and Blob did act like a doofus but can't really call it goofy. At least not enough to change the entire tone of the movie. You wanted "an example in origins" of goofiness and you got one, which many would agree was goofy. Now you're talking about tones of the entire movie for some reason. Talk about shifting goalposts.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 1, 2018 18:22:18 GMT
Not really. It was a light scene and Blob did act like a doofus but can't really call it goofy. At least not enough to change the entire tone of the movie. You wanted "an example in origins" of goofiness and you got one, which many would agree was goofy. Now you're talking about tones of the entire movie for some reason. Talk about shifting goalposts. Tones about the entire movie was the point of the thread. Or did you not read the OP? You claimed Origins was goofier than the other X-men movies. Are you saying you're basing that judgement on a single scene?
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Post by charzhino on Mar 1, 2018 18:48:49 GMT
You wanted "an example in origins" of goofiness and you got one, which many would agree was goofy. Now you're talking about tones of the entire movie for some reason. Talk about shifting goalposts. Tones about the entire movie was the point of the thread. Or did you not read the OP? You claimed Origins was goofier than the other X-men movies. Are you saying you're basing that judgement on a single scene? You asked for "an example" meaning 1 scene/sequence. Im just following your line of reasoning. And heres another scenes that follows the same goofy tone which makes origins so different in tone to the rest of the X-films:
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Post by DSDSquared on Mar 1, 2018 19:56:08 GMT
I love the MCU. They make great movies, but they all do follow the same formula. Sure, they are different as far as cast and story, but they look the same and have the same tone. What they have done is successful, so why change it? This is not to say that they do not take risks. People seem to forget that movies like Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man were going to bomb because no one cared at all about the characters. They ended up being very successful, but they ended up being so successful because they kept to their formula. And I never said the MCU didn't have a formula. My point was that DC and Fox films are even more formulaic since their movies are more similar to each other than MCU's movies are. Do you disagree with this? The DCEU definitely. Fox less so, but you are correct. I am just saying that the MCU has a very distinct way they film their movies. They are all the 'same' as far as cinematography and tone and even the way they are written, honestly. It works, though.
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