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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 1, 2018 14:27:46 GMT
If Cap and Falcon can break some guys out. They aren’t very powerful or intelligent. Who the hell helped them?
Oops- edit- it was Cap and Winter Soldier
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 1, 2018 16:09:50 GMT
If Cap and Falcon can break some guys out. They aren’t very powerful or intelligent. Who the hell helped them? I'd say Cap IS intelligent, and he's likely been to the Raft before (no one there was surprised it existed). He probably had help from Widow and maybe even T'Challa.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 1, 2018 16:16:52 GMT
If Cap and Falcon can break some guys out. They aren’t very powerful or intelligent. Who the hell helped them? Falcon was a prisoner in the Raft. Cap took out most of a ship full of terrorists by himself in Winter Soldier. Taking out the guards in the Raft would most likely be no problem.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 1, 2018 16:24:51 GMT
If Cap and Falcon can break some guys out. They aren’t very powerful or intelligent. Who the hell helped them? Falcon was a prisoner in the Raft. Cap took out most of a ship full of terrorists by himself in Winter Soldier. Taking out the guards in the Raft would most likely be no problem. Oh yeah, Winter Soldier, not Falcon. It’s not about taking out the guards. Cap could do that. But it would require more than that. It would require intel and hacking skills. Or else he would need help from the inside. Maybe he had it. All I know is that it would be a formidable task and should not have been glossed over. It would have been more intriguing if our heroes like Hawkeye and Ant-Man remained on The Raft going into Infinity War.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 1, 2018 16:26:11 GMT
If Cap and Falcon can break some guys out. They aren’t very powerful or intelligent. Who the hell helped them? I'd say Cap IS intelligent, and he's likely been to the Raft before (no one there was surprised it existed). He probably had help from Widow and maybe even T'Challa. LOL Cap couldn’t hack into a government military system. He’s too dumb for that.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 1, 2018 16:35:36 GMT
Falcon was a prisoner in the Raft. Cap took out most of a ship full of terrorists by himself in Winter Soldier. Taking out the guards in the Raft would most likely be no problem. Oh yeah, Winter Soldier, not Falcon. It’s not about taking out the guards. Cap could do that. But it would require more than that. It would require intel and hacking skills. Or else he would need help from the inside. Maybe he had it. All I know is that it would be a formidable task and should not have been glossed over. It would have been more intriguing if our heroes like Hawkeye and Ant-Man remained on The Raft going into Infinity War. Intel and Hacking skills? Hacking what? He just has to push a button or 2 to open the cells. It probably is a touch screen that says "Cells" and the numbers and/or "All" on it. And like was said before, Cap is a tactical genius. This is part of what makes him a great leader. That would get him through the Raft easily. Especially since it makes sense that he has been there before.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 1, 2018 16:39:42 GMT
Oh yeah, Winter Soldier, not Falcon. It’s not about taking out the guards. Cap could do that. But it would require more than that. It would require intel and hacking skills. Or else he would need help from the inside. Maybe he had it. All I know is that it would be a formidable task and should not have been glossed over. It would have been more intriguing if our heroes like Hawkeye and Ant-Man remained on The Raft going into Infinity War. Intel and Hacking skills? Hacking what? He just has to push a button or 2 to open the cells. It probably is a touch screen that says "Cells" and the numbers and/or "All" on it. And like was said before, Cap is a tactical genius. This is part of what makes him a great leader. That would get him through the Raft easily. Especially since it makes sense that he has been there before. Wasn’t The Raft submersible? So how would you get there? Know it’s location? Get the doors open? Get through several doors? It’s not as simple as pushing some buttons. It’s a highly sophisticated prison. Tony could do it. Cap I’m not so sure.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 1, 2018 16:50:01 GMT
Intel and Hacking skills? Hacking what? He just has to push a button or 2 to open the cells. It probably is a touch screen that says "Cells" and the numbers and/or "All" on it. And like was said before, Cap is a tactical genius. This is part of what makes him a great leader. That would get him through the Raft easily. Especially since it makes sense that he has been there before. Wasn’t The Raft submersible? So how would you get there? Know it’s location? Get the doors open? Get through several doors? It’s not as simple as pushing some buttons. It’s a highly sophisticated prison. Tony could do it. Cap I’m not so sure. They aren't pulling in fish and making sea water drinkable. They'll need supplies. And supplies need to be transported. And there needs to be workers on these transports.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 1, 2018 18:04:00 GMT
Intel and Hacking skills? Hacking what? He just has to push a button or 2 to open the cells. It probably is a touch screen that says "Cells" and the numbers and/or "All" on it. And like was said before, Cap is a tactical genius. This is part of what makes him a great leader. That would get him through the Raft easily. Especially since it makes sense that he has been there before. Wasn’t The Raft submersible? So how would you get there? Know it’s location? Get the doors open? Get through several doors? It’s not as simple as pushing some buttons. It’s a highly sophisticated prison. Tony could do it. Cap I’m not so sure. Tony wasn't surprised by the Raft's existence, he knew about it already. Cap would know where it was too, and how to get into it. And if he had Black Panther's help, then it's further explained. Really, stop asking to be spoonfed.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 1, 2018 23:40:45 GMT
Wasn’t The Raft submersible? So how would you get there? Know it’s location? Get the doors open? Get through several doors? It’s not as simple as pushing some buttons. It’s a highly sophisticated prison. Tony could do it. Cap I’m not so sure. Tony wasn't surprised by the Raft's existence, he knew about it already. Cap would know where it was too, and how to get into it. And if he had Black Panther's help, then it's further explained. Really, stop asking to be spoonfed. If he had Black Panther’s help, sure, he could do it. But I don’t know why BP would bust out people he doesn’t know. He already said to Hawkeye that he doesn’t care who he was.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 2, 2018 0:29:42 GMT
Tony wasn't surprised by the Raft's existence, he knew about it already. Cap would know where it was too, and how to get into it. And if he had Black Panther's help, then it's further explained. Really, stop asking to be spoonfed. If he had Black Panther’s help, sure, he could do it. But I don’t know why BP would bust out people he doesn’t know. He already said to Hawkeye that he doesn’t care who he was. He felt he owed Cap and Bucky after mistakenly chasing them with the intent to kill Bucky.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 2, 2018 1:48:51 GMT
If he had Black Panther’s help, sure, he could do it. But I don’t know why BP would bust out people he doesn’t know. He already said to Hawkeye that he doesn’t care who he was. He felt he owed Cap and Bucky after mistakenly chasing them with the intent to kill Bucky. So basically after mistakenly chasing them with the intent to kill Bucky he felt he owed Cap and Bucky.
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Post by dazz on Mar 2, 2018 1:51:42 GMT
I'd say Cap IS intelligent, and he's likely been to the Raft before (no one there was surprised it existed). He probably had help from Widow and maybe even T'Challa. LOL Cap couldn’t hack into a government military system. He’s too dumb for that. He's not dumb how he can use the shield shows Cap is highly intelligent, what Cap lacks is knowledge because he don't grow up around computers so whilst he has the capability to learn and master these skills he hasn't been taught them, intellect & knowledge are different things, one you are born with the other you need to acquire.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 2, 2018 3:15:57 GMT
LOL Cap couldn’t hack into a government military system. He’s too dumb for that. He's not dumb how he can use the shield shows Cap is highly intelligent, what Cap lacks is knowledge because he don't grow up around computers so whilst he has the capability to learn and master these skills he hasn't been taught them, intellect & knowledge are different things, one you are born with the other you need to acquire.
Agreed. He’s not stupid, he just lacks knowledge.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 2, 2018 11:00:42 GMT
This is actually in the Infinity War prelude comic.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 2, 2018 11:55:31 GMT
This is actually in the Infinity War prelude comic. Cool. What do they say about it?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 2, 2018 12:05:14 GMT
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