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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 4, 2018 14:24:15 GMT
DC-Fan has a point with #1. Wakanda was basically like Elysium, holding advanced medical equipment away from the rest of the world. Killmonger is Matt Damons character from the film. Seeing what Major World Powers did to the rest of Africa and how easily whatever tech they give them could be perverted into something awful, you can see the Wakandans' POV. Elysium, while I enjoyed it, really didn't have a good answer to the problem. Even at the end it wasn't going to just fix things having the tech be available to everyone. But what about my Nazi thread?!?!!!1 |
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Post by dazz on Mar 4, 2018 14:41:47 GMT
I'm not referring to their barbaric and savage way of choosing a leader. I'm referring to:
1. Wakanda not sharing their medical technology/procedures with the rest of the world. I can understand not wanting to share your weapons with the rest of the world. But when you have medical technology/processes that can heal people and save many, many lives, it's really despicable to not share that with the rest of the world.
2. Wakanda sends their spies to spy on other countries so it's not like Wakanda is in a bottle (like Kandor) and isn't aware of what's happening in the rest of the world. So Wakanda was fully aware of Hitler and the Nazis but even though Wakanda had the technology and the weapons to defeat the Nazis quickly and end the war and save millions of lives, Wakanda did nothing and just allowed the Nazis to take over most of Europe and kill millions of people. That's really despicable.
What if the Nazis had developed the atomic bomb first? Would Wakanda, supposedly with their advanced weapons, just do nothing while the Nazis use the atomic bomb to win the war? 1: Wakandan tech is Vibranium based, this means any tech can be broken down for the Vibranium which can be used to create more destructive weapons, this is a common theme in sci-fi of advanced cultures being reluctant to share even "simple" tech because of what the fundementals of such tech can be repurposed for, Star Trek used this a lot with things like replicators, surface level they are used to make food and clothing but can be repurposed to create things that could be used to create chemical weapons and such, your complaint here shows a strong myopic and idiotic viewpoint, well done numpty.
2: The idiocy of this statgement has already been made clear so I will just say shut it you slag.
Heres a question why hadn't Wakanda with it's advanced tech tried to enforce their will on the rest of the world say like America has for the last 70 years?? the real life misdeeds shall we call them of America are far more despicable than any assumed misdeed of Wakanda, so before you again get on your high horse arse backwards and fall off into another steaming pile of horseshit DC-Fan please for the love of god shut the fuck up already.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 4, 2018 14:50:26 GMT
I'm not referring to their barbaric and savage way of choosing a leader. I'm referring to:
1. Wakanda not sharing their medical technology/procedures with the rest of the world. I can understand not wanting to share your weapons with the rest of the world. But when you have medical technology/processes that can heal people and save many, many lives, it's really despicable to not share that with the rest of the world.
2. Wakanda sends their spies to spy on other countries so it's not like Wakanda is in a bottle (like Kandor) and isn't aware of what's happening in the rest of the world. So Wakanda was fully aware of Hitler and the Nazis but even though Wakanda had the technology and the weapons to defeat the Nazis quickly and end the war and save millions of lives, Wakanda did nothing and just allowed the Nazis to take over most of Europe and kill millions of people. That's really despicable.
What if the Nazis had developed the atomic bomb first? Would Wakanda, supposedly with their advanced weapons, just do nothing while the Nazis use the atomic bomb to win the war? 1: Wakandan tech is Vibranium based, this means any tech can be broken down for the Vibranium which can be used to create more destructive weapons, this is a common theme in sci-fi of advanced cultures being reluctant to share even "simple" tech because of what the fundementals of such tech can be repurposed for, Star Trek used this a lot with things like replicators, surface level they are used to make food and clothing but can be repurposed to create things that could be used to create chemical weapons and such, your complaint here shows a strong myopic and idiotic viewpoint, well done numpty.
2: The idiocy of this statgement has already been made clear so I will just say shut it you slag.
Heres a question why hadn't Wakanda with it's advanced tech tried to enforce their will on the rest of the world say like America has for the last 70 years?? the real life misdeeds shall we call them of America are far more despicable than any assumed misdeed of Wakanda, so before you again get on your high horse arse backwards and fall off into another steaming pile of horseshit DC-Fan please for the love of god shut the fuck up already.
No reason to insult the guy just because you disagree with his assertion that Africans are "savage" and "barbaric" in one dimension or another. You've gotta check that, mang. Try to be more civil, diplomatic, and astute. Like DC-Fan. Innit? |
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Post by dazz on Mar 4, 2018 14:59:47 GMT
1: Wakandan tech is Vibranium based, this means any tech can be broken down for the Vibranium which can be used to create more destructive weapons, this is a common theme in sci-fi of advanced cultures being reluctant to share even "simple" tech because of what the fundementals of such tech can be repurposed for, Star Trek used this a lot with things like replicators, surface level they are used to make food and clothing but can be repurposed to create things that could be used to create chemical weapons and such, your complaint here shows a strong myopic and idiotic viewpoint, well done numpty.
2: The idiocy of this statgement has already been made clear so I will just say shut it you slag.
Heres a question why hadn't Wakanda with it's advanced tech tried to enforce their will on the rest of the world say like America has for the last 70 years?? the real life misdeeds shall we call them of America are far more despicable than any assumed misdeed of Wakanda, so before you again get on your high horse arse backwards and fall off into another steaming pile of horseshit DC-Fan please for the love of god shut the fuck up already.
No reason to insult the guy just because you disagree with his assertion that Africans are "savage" and "barbaric" in one dimension or another. You've gotta check that, mang. Try to be more civil, diplomatic, and astute. Like DC-Fan. Innit? You can shut it an all you tart...hehehe, yeah maybe I should try and be more like DC-Fan but I'm not as flexible as him I cant get my head that far up my own arse or at all really, it limits my perspective to that of the world and not the inside of my own colon, my loss though I guess.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 4, 2018 15:06:00 GMT
No reason to insult the guy just because you disagree with his assertion that Africans are "savage" and "barbaric" in one dimension or another. You've gotta check that, mang. Try to be more civil, diplomatic, and astute. Like DC-Fan. Innit? You can shut it an all you tart...hehehe, yeah maybe I should try and be more like DC-Fan but I'm not as flexible as him I cant get my head that far up my own arse or at all really, it limits my perspective to that of the world and not the inside of my own colon, my loss though I guess.
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Post by damngumby on Mar 4, 2018 17:57:36 GMT
I'm not referring to their barbaric and savage way of choosing a leader. I'm referring to:
1. Wakanda not sharing their medical technology/procedures with the rest of the world. I can understand not wanting to share your weapons with the rest of the world. But when you have medical technology/processes that can heal people and save many, many lives, it's really despicable to not share that with the rest of the world.
2. Wakanda sends their spies to spy on other countries so it's not like Wakanda is in a bottle (like Kandor) and isn't aware of what's happening in the rest of the world. So Wakanda was fully aware of Hitler and the Nazis but even though Wakanda had the technology and the weapons to defeat the Nazis quickly and end the war and save millions of lives, Wakanda did nothing and just allowed the Nazis to take over most of Europe and kill millions of people. That's really despicable.
What if the Nazis had developed the atomic bomb first? Would Wakanda, supposedly with their advanced weapons, just do nothing while the Nazis use the atomic bomb to win the war? Gee ... it’s not like the primary theme of the Black Panther film was about that very thing. How on earth did you miss that!? The film made it quite clear that the Wakandan previous isolationist ways were wrong. The T’challa charactor evolves ... recognizes that things need to change. That might explain why Black Panther is the #1 greatest superhero movie of all time!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 18:01:54 GMT
Maybe. If you're ashamed of Africans
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 4, 2018 18:04:56 GMT
Wakanda isolating themselves from the rest of the world was forgivable on the count of the fact that the film directly addressed this issue. The whole point of the ending was that the nation was finally ready to put an end to its isolationist history.
If there’s anything that Wakanda should be criticized for (apart from the fact that their leaders are decided by combat rather than by elections), it’s the fact it’s essentially a patriarchy.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 4, 2018 18:05:15 GMT
I'm not referring to their barbaric and savage way of choosing a leader. I'm referring to:
1. Wakanda not sharing their medical technology/procedures with the rest of the world. I can understand not wanting to share your weapons with the rest of the world. But when you have medical technology/processes that can heal people and save many, many lives, it's really despicable to not share that with the rest of the world.
2. Wakanda sends their spies to spy on other countries so it's not like Wakanda is in a bottle (like Kandor) and isn't aware of what's happening in the rest of the world. So Wakanda was fully aware of Hitler and the Nazis but even though Wakanda had the technology and the weapons to defeat the Nazis quickly and end the war and save millions of lives, Wakanda did nothing and just allowed the Nazis to take over most of Europe and kill millions of people. That's really despicable.
What if the Nazis had developed the atomic bomb first? Would Wakanda, supposedly with their advanced weapons, just do nothing while the Nazis use the atomic bomb to win the war? Gee ... it’s not like the primary theme of the Black Panther film was about that very thing. How on earth did you miss that!? The film made it quite clear that the Wakandan previous isolationist ways were wrong. The T’challa charactor evolves ... recognizes that things need to change. That might explain why Black Panther is the #1 greatest superhero movie of all time!
Correction: it is the REIGNING, DEFENDING, UNDISPUTED, UNIVERSAL #1 greatest superhero movie of all time. (Because it has a 97 score on RT.) |
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Post by sostie on Mar 4, 2018 18:07:40 GMT
Was Wonder Woman's boat Wakandan tech?
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 4, 2018 18:11:36 GMT
I'm not referring to their barbaric and savage way of choosing a leader. I'm referring to:
1. Wakanda not sharing their medical technology/procedures with the rest of the world. I can understand not wanting to share your weapons with the rest of the world. But when you have medical technology/processes that can heal people and save many, many lives, it's really despicable to not share that with the rest of the world.
2. Wakanda sends their spies to spy on other countries so it's not like Wakanda is in a bottle (like Kandor) and isn't aware of what's happening in the rest of the world. So Wakanda was fully aware of Hitler and the Nazis but even though Wakanda had the technology and the weapons to defeat the Nazis quickly and end the war and save millions of lives, Wakanda did nothing and just allowed the Nazis to take over most of Europe and kill millions of people. That's really despicable.
What if the Nazis had developed the atomic bomb first? Would Wakanda, supposedly with their advanced weapons, just do nothing while the Nazis use the atomic bomb to win the war? For two years after WWII started the USA was fully aware of the Nazis and Hitler and didn't enter the war. In fact USA only entered after Pearl Harbour and the Axis powers declared war on THEM. They had resources that would have helped end the conflict. The US didn't enter the war immediately because they were still trying to recover from this thing called The Great Depression. You really find it hard to understand this concept of an isolationist nation keeping their technology secret to protect both themselves and the world. Millions of people were during World War II. How is Wakanda protecting the world by not ending the war quickly when they had the power to and instead just letting millions of people get killed? Why didn't Superman intervene and help at 9/11? Because Clark Kent in MoS would've still been a teenager in Metropolis when 9/11 happened. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 18:15:52 GMT
For two years after WWII started the USA was fully aware of the Nazis and Hitler and didn't enter the war. In fact USA only entered after Pearl Harbour and the Axis powers declared war on THEM. They had resources that would have helped end the conflict. The US didn't enter the war immediately because they were still trying to recover from this thing called The Great Depression. You really find it hard to understand this concept of an isolationist nation keeping their technology secret to protect both themselves and the world. Millions of people were during World War II. How is Wakanda protecting the world by not ending the war quickly when they had the power to and instead just letting millions of people get killed? Why didn't Superman intervene and help at 9/11? Because Clark Kent in MoS would've still been a teenager in Metropolis when 9/11 happened. Why didn't Wonder Woman prevent the Spanish/American War?! |
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 4, 2018 18:19:09 GMT
it’s essentially a patriarchy. Yep. Wakanda is also a patriarchy. 5 tribes and all 5 tribes led by men. And T'Challa's sister wouldn't challenge Killmonger for the throne because women weren't allowed to challenge for the throne. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 18:19:22 GMT
Why didn't the Flash travel time to kidnap baby Superman and take him to fight baby Hitler?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 18:20:28 GMT
Why didn't Etta Candy go to a department store and buy WW the PANTIES?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 18:29:04 GMT
And what about Green Lantern?! Dude hasn't even showed up yet?
Talk about despicable!
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 4, 2018 18:45:57 GMT
Maybe. If you're ashamed of Africans Lol god damnit I love you! |
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Post by sostie on Mar 4, 2018 18:49:20 GMT
For two years after WWII started the USA was fully aware of the Nazis and Hitler and didn't enter the war. In fact USA only entered after Pearl Harbour and the Axis powers declared war on THEM. They had resources that would have helped end the conflict. The US didn't enter the war immediately because they were still trying to recover from this thing called The Great Depression. The American public were hugely against the idea of entering the war...for whatever reason. Maybe many thought it was not of their direct concern? Perhaps they wanted to protect their way of life? See any comparisons that perhaps may have been considered in your Wakandian scenario? Nah, probably not, and if you did you would deny it. You really should have taken note of the rest of my post...."You also seem to find it hard to understand the concept that this is a fictional country with circumstances incomparable to anything else in real history, and how ridiculous it is to simply insert them into the real world history and then criticise them for anything they do." Holy shit. You actually considered that scenario and came up with an excuse!  Seriously! Oh my you are the gift that keeps on giving. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 18:49:39 GMT
Maybe. If you're ashamed of Africans Lol god damnit I love you!  |
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 4, 2018 18:51:38 GMT
I think at this point it’s safe to say DC-Fan has totally lost it... I think it’s safe to say that Marvel’s writing is terrible given they seek to glorify such morally bankrupt cultures and people. |
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Seriously! Oh my you are the gift that keeps on giving.
