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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 12, 2018 18:01:31 GMT
The big 3 of DC is Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. But what about Marvel?
Who do you consider to be Marvel big 3?
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Post by politicidal on Mar 12, 2018 18:18:41 GMT
In general? Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk.
In the MCU? Iron Man, Captain America, and Hulk.
Hulk is the key!
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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 12, 2018 18:25:37 GMT
Marvel Comics: Spidey, Hulk, and it should be Logan, but I think Iron-man has taken that spot over the last 10 years.
MCU: Iron-man, Captain America, Spider-man.
in the MCU it probably should be Hulk instead of Spider-man. As he only has been in 1.5 movies. Can't help it. I like Webhead too much.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 12, 2018 18:41:52 GMT
I don't know if Marvel has a Big Three. Technically speaking, Cap, Iron Man and Thor are known as the Avengers 'Big 3' in the comics; and considering the MCU has revolved around the Avengers I guess you'd have to say that translates to the MCU. Especially when you consider they're the only characters with three films apiece to date.
Strictly speaking of the Marvel 616, I don't know who the big three would be. Spider-Man for sure, after that I don't know who's quite as iconic. Wolverine maybe, or Hulk, who's had a serious multimedia presence for decades.
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Post by scabab on Mar 12, 2018 19:33:28 GMT
Before the MCU it would have to have been Spider-man, Hulk a d Wolverine easily.
Now...it's still Spider-man, it's gotta be Iron Man and...I don't know either Wolverine or Captain America?
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Post by James on Mar 12, 2018 22:05:26 GMT
Of the MCU - Iron Man, Captain America and Thor (they all each have their own trilogy anyway)
In general - Spider-Man, Hulk and Wolverine
Very much contrary between the two groups.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 12, 2018 22:12:24 GMT
In comics it would be Spiderman, Wolverine and Hulk. In the MCU it's Ironman, Captain America and Thor. It's easy to spot them, they're the characters who already have a trilogy of movies that weave in and out of the Avengers movies. They're also the character's who's story arcs influence the events of the MCU the most.
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Post by James on Mar 12, 2018 22:22:14 GMT
In comics it would be Spiderman, Wolverine and Hulk. In the MCU it's Ironman, Captain America and Thor. It's easy to spot them, they're the characters who already have a trilogy of movies that weave in and out of the Avengers movies. They're also the character's who's story arcs influence the events of the MCU the most. Precisely. I'd add Hulk to the Top 3, since as a character he's known by more people than Thor, but it's just that he's only got one solo film in the entire franchise and even when he's in the other movies (i.e. Avengers, Ragnarok), it's more of a minor role than anything. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 12, 2018 22:43:29 GMT
In comics it would be Spiderman, Wolverine and Hulk. In the MCU it's Ironman, Captain America and Thor. It's easy to spot them, they're the characters who already have a trilogy of movies that weave in and out of the Avengers movies. They're also the character's who's story arcs influence the events of the MCU the most. Precisely. I'd add Hulk to the Top 3, since as a character he's known by more people than Thor, but it's just that he's only got one solo film in the entire franchise and even when he's in the other movies (i.e. Avengers, Ragnarok), it's more of a minor role than anything. Blame the weird Universal's First Right to Refuse Distribution Rights. Marvel has character rights and licence. If they want to make a solo sequel to The Incredible Hulk then they have to go to Universal and give them the option to be the films distributor. If they refuse then Marvel Studios/Disney get to distribute the film. If they except then Marvel Studios has to use Universal to distribute it. This may be a blessing in disguise. While Ang Lee's Hulk was freaking dumpster fire, The Incredible Hulk was serviceable. By using Hulk sparingly as a supporting character in the Ensemble Movies and more forthright but still not the Lead in Ragnarok, we get the perfect amount of Hulk. I am not saying that Hulk couldn't hold his own as a solo movie if done right. I am saying by using him with others they found the perfect amount of Hulk so far in the MCU. This adverse situation made Marvel Studios think Creatively. And because of that we got a sweet Buddy Road Trip Movie. |
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 12, 2018 22:45:15 GMT
In comics it would be Spiderman, Wolverine and Hulk. In the MCU it's Ironman, Captain America and Thor. It's easy to spot them, they're the characters who already have a trilogy of movies that weave in and out of the Avengers movies. They're also the character's who's story arcs influence the events of the MCU the most. Precisely. I'd add Hulk to the Top 3, since as a character he's known by more people than Thor, but it's just that he's only got one solo film in the entire franchise and even when he's in the other movies (i.e. Avengers, Ragnarok), it's more of a minor role than anything. No, Hulk isn't part of the top 3 in the MCU precisely because of the reasons you mentioned. I mean, yes, he is very recognizable, probably even more than Cap, IM or Thor. But he is not as integral to the MCU as the other three nor is he given as much. |
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Post by James on Mar 12, 2018 23:04:43 GMT
Precisely. I'd add Hulk to the Top 3, since as a character he's known by more people than Thor, but it's just that he's only got one solo film in the entire franchise and even when he's in the other movies (i.e. Avengers, Ragnarok), it's more of a minor role than anything. Blame the weird Universal's First Right to Refuse Distribution Rights. Marvel has character rights and licence. If they want to make a solo sequel to The Incredible Hulk then they have to go to Universal and give them the option to be the films distributor. If they refuse then Marvel Studios/Disney get to distribute the film. If they except then Marvel Studios has to use Universal to distribute it. This may be a blessing in disguise. While Ang Lee's Hulk was freaking dumpster fire, The Incredible Hulk was serviceable. By using Hulk sparingly as a supporting character in the Ensemble Movies and more forthright but still not the Lead in Ragnarok, we get the perfect amount of Hulk. I am not saying that Hulk couldn't hold his own as a solo movie if done right. I am saying by using him with others they found the perfect amount of Hulk so far in the MCU. This adverse situation made Marvel Studios think Creatively. And because of that we got a sweet Buddy Road Trip Movie. I am aware. I'm just bewildered as to what's stopping Marvel Studios/Disney from making another Hulk movie. Believe it or not, there have been sequels that are owned by different studios from their predecessor. |
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Post by James on Mar 12, 2018 23:07:34 GMT
Precisely. I'd add Hulk to the Top 3, since as a character he's known by more people than Thor, but it's just that he's only got one solo film in the entire franchise and even when he's in the other movies (i.e. Avengers, Ragnarok), it's more of a minor role than anything. No, Hulk isn't part of the top 3 in the MCU precisely because of the reasons you mentioned. I mean, yes, he is very recognizable, probably even more than Cap, IM or Thor. But he is not as integral to the MCU as the other three nor is he given as much. Exactly. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 12, 2018 23:25:29 GMT
Blame the weird Universal's First Right to Refuse Distribution Rights. Marvel has character rights and licence. If they want to make a solo sequel to The Incredible Hulk then they have to go to Universal and give them the option to be the films distributor. If they refuse then Marvel Studios/Disney get to distribute the film. If they except then Marvel Studios has to use Universal to distribute it. This may be a blessing in disguise. While Ang Lee's Hulk was freaking dumpster fire, The Incredible Hulk was serviceable. By using Hulk sparingly as a supporting character in the Ensemble Movies and more forthright but still not the Lead in Ragnarok, we get the perfect amount of Hulk. I am not saying that Hulk couldn't hold his own as a solo movie if done right. I am saying by using him with others they found the perfect amount of Hulk so far in the MCU. This adverse situation made Marvel Studios think Creatively. And because of that we got a sweet Buddy Road Trip Movie. I am aware. I'm just bewildered as to what's stopping Marvel Studios/Disney from making another Hulk movie. Believe it or not, there have been sequels that are owned by different studios from their predecessor. Oh yeah I am not saying they can't. I mean its a completely different situation, but Marvel Studios is playing Nice with Sony so both can reap the benefits of Spider-man in the MCU. On the small screen Marvel TV and Fox are playing nice for Legion and Gifted. I just think with the movies right now they filled out the schedule so far in advance with the knowledge that they would have to at least ask Universal if they want to distribute a Hulk solo. Hell Universal my not want to. I think that little extra bit of head ache made them realize that the could use Hulk in like they are doing now. With people loving Hulk/Banner in both Avengers movies and REALLY loving him (them?) in Ragnarok I bet that has them revisiting the idea of doing a Solo. Or they may get creative again and have a Hulk/Banner as the Lead but still in a situation where it's a partner movie. I think we are getting to the point where 3 movies a year is a little slow with all the projects they want to do. Marvel gets the X-men and FF back, they'll have to go to 4 movies a year at least. Them doing 4 movies with 1 being an X-men would be a net reduction in movies. Fox has Deadpool 2, Dark Phoenix, New Mutants, and possible X-Force all being released in like a 18 month window now. I can't remember when X-force was being scheduled to release in 2019. (also the weird situation with New Mutants getting moved to Feb 2019.) When MCU takes over those 3 possible 4 in a year and half gets whittled down to 1. |
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