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Post by CrepedCrusader on Mar 12, 2017 5:33:15 GMT
As an atheist, I often wonder if religious people consider is blasphemy when certain politicians (e.g. Paul Ryan) say that their religious beliefs and convictions guided them in crafting and/or passing legislation that seems to go against the teachings of the religion they profess to believe in? For example, most experts who have looked at the Republican Obamacare replacement plan have said it will make it more difficult for both the poor and the elderly to obtain and maintain health insurance, will raise premiums, and will likely result in millions of Americans losing their health insurance. Meanwhile wealthy corporations will receive many benefits, and a small percentage of the wealthiest Americans will receive generous tax breaks. Surely this isn't "what Jesus would do"?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 12, 2017 5:39:23 GMT
Most experts have said? Who are these experts? Any names, or are they just anonymous experts?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 12, 2017 12:36:04 GMT
When did Ryan say that?
In any event government is not religion and it's impossible to mid the two.
It is entirely likely that people favor legislation that follows their ideals so there are times when a person will never champion something horrible like abortion or war.
However there are also automatically government responsibilities that will contradict Doctrine and that's something each one has to handle with their own conscious.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 12:59:24 GMT
When did Ryan say that? In any event government is not religion and it's impossible to mid the two. It is entirely likely that people favor legislation that follows their ideals so there are times when a person will never champion something horrible like abortion or war. However there are also automatically government responsibilities that will contradict Doctrine and that's something each one has to handle with their own conscious. And yet roughly 50% are in favor of legalized abortion in America. So what you're saying is 165 million of your fellow Americans are in favour of a "horrible" practice? Subjective judgemental crap from you once again. Oh and mentioning war and abortion in the same sentence as if they are somehow linked together is particularly disingenuous. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 12, 2017 13:05:08 GMT
When did Ryan say that? In any event government is not religion and it's impossible to mid the two. It is entirely likely that people favor legislation that follows their ideals so there are times when a person will never champion something horrible like abortion or war. However there are also automatically government responsibilities that will contradict Doctrine and that's something each one has to handle with their own conscious. And yet roughly 50% are in favor of legalized abortion in America. So what you're saying is 165 million of your fellow Americans are in favour of a "horrible" practice? Subjective judgemental crap from you once again. Oh and mentioning war and abortion in the same sentence as if they are somehow linked together is particularly disingenuous. You Apparently ignored my second and last sentence so I'll give you a chance to re-read. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2017 13:17:01 GMT
And yet roughly 50% are in favor of legalized abortion in America. So what you're saying is 165 million of your fellow Americans are in favour of a "horrible" practice? Subjective judgemental crap from you once again. Oh and mentioning war and abortion in the same sentence as if they are somehow linked together is particularly disingenuous. You Apparently ignored my second and last sentence so I'll give you a chance to re-read. I ignored nothing Smithjgs. You somehow seem to think your value judgement on abortion as "horrible" should remain unchallenged. Roughly a 135 million Americans are in favour of legalized abortion,tens of millions of them will be Christians. So don't presume you speak for all Christians when it's clear you don't. And you disingenuously tried to link abortion and war together by mentioning in the same sentence. Why did you attempt to draw that false equivalency? |
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Post by thefleetsin on Mar 12, 2017 23:33:13 GMT
even the most pious of religious convictions is always served with a side order of indulgent self-interest.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 13, 2017 1:08:16 GMT
I never said it was anything other than my opinion. Feel free to challenge it but it's best to do so in context. Is this about me or what I was talking about? I'm in favor of legalized abortion. What does that have to do with it be a disgusting practice taht I would never champion as a solution to anything substantial? I linked them together because they are two basic examples of what many Christians may have issues with. I think you may be too intellectual for basic reading comprehension so I'll try to compensate by being monosyllabic as much as possible. You think that would be okay...errr...fine? |
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