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Vertigo
Mar 21, 2018 18:43:31 GMT
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Post by hi224 on Mar 21, 2018 18:43:31 GMT
Feelings about this film.
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Post by singh on Mar 21, 2018 18:58:56 GMT
It was very good. 8 on 10. Nice performance by James stewart. The climax scene was great.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Mar 21, 2018 19:00:04 GMT
Good but overrated.
I think the letter scene needed to stay though (first time I watched it the letter scene appeared to be a WTF and I read later Hitchcock wanted to remove it)--because if it wasn't there, then the audience would likely be wondering why she was willing to go along with his instructions and demands-(her guilt was the reason she went along)-and by the time they head to the church tower might assume he was totally bonkers. So the letter was needed to ensure that the audience understood that she was the person he thought was dead--it also builds anticipation for him discovering the truth.
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Vertigo
Mar 21, 2018 20:08:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 20:08:33 GMT
Tad overrated
Rear window is my favorite Hitchcock
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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 21, 2018 20:14:51 GMT
Overrated only in the context that Sight & Sound's latest #1 above everything else. Wikipedia: Commenting upon the 2012 results, the magazine's editor Nick James said that Vertigo was "the ultimate critics' film. It is a dream-like film about people who are not sure who they are but who are busy reconstructing themselves and each other to fit a kind of cinema ideal of the ideal soul-mate." #gross
It would maybe make my top 300.
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Vertigo
Mar 21, 2018 20:16:54 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Mar 21, 2018 20:16:54 GMT
Good but not one of my favorite Hitchcock movies. 7/10.
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Post by Archelaus on Mar 21, 2018 20:19:36 GMT
It's one of my favorite Alfred Hitchcock films. I love the dream-like aspect of the film, the theme of obsession, and Bernard Herrman's musical score. However, Gavin's plot to cover his tracks in murdering the real Madeleine is pretty much reliant on Scotty not making it up to the top of the bell tower. Alfred Hitchcock noted it as a "flaw in the story" in the book Hitchcock/Truffaut.
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Post by wmcclain on Mar 21, 2018 20:43:40 GMT
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Mar 21, 2018 20:49:26 GMT
Tad overrated Rear window is my favorite Hitchcock My feelings exactly. 'Vertigo' is considered by many as Hitchcock's best film, but as far as I am concerned that honour goes to 'Rear Window'.
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Post by mikef6 on Mar 21, 2018 21:17:10 GMT
Vertigo is one of the world’s greatest films. Most polls and rankings are not worth much, but in the case of the Sight and Sound 2012 critics’ poll, they nailed at least this part of it. Just three days ago, I saw Vertigo in the 60th anniversary screening to theaters from TCM. Primemovermithrax Pejorative I think you’re right. Without the flashback/letter scene, we would just think Judy as unhinged as Scotty. Yet, she was anxious to be loved for herself, as Judy, not as just another reincarnation of Madeleine. The flashback was needed for this very reason. Kim Novak has said that this film meant a lot to her for this very reason. When she was brought to Hollywood, everyone wanted to change her while she fought to be more herself than a “movie star.” About Hitch taking out the letter scene, he did order it cut against the advice of his closest associates. A few days later he showed up at work and ordered it back in. Why did he change his mind? Dan Auiler, author of “Vertigo: The Making of a Hitchcock Classic,” has pointed out a curious coincidence. During the final days of shooting, Hitchcock’s closest advisor, collaborator, and co-creator – his wife Alma – had been in the hospital. About the time of editing the final cut, she was released and came home. If they had talked it over and Alma had said the flashback belonged in the movie, Hitchcock would have probably done it. Thank you, Alma. Archelaus Bernard Hermann’s score is absolutely breathtaking. You got that right! For the second time I have to say, “One of the greatest in film history.” Vertigo didn’t lose money but the box office was not at all what was expected. Also, the critical reviews were very mixed, tending toward negative (there are a couple of famous all negative reviews that are frequently quoted like the Time Magazine conclusion that it was another “Hitchcock and bull story”). Yet in the years immediately following, Hitchcock himself turned against the movie, regretting its seeming failure and casting blame all over the place, including that “flaw” in the script, Kim Novak being not good enough, and Jimmy Stewart being too old. All these things got into the interviews with Truffaut. BTW, in other places Hitchcock brags about tossing logic in favor of a good story and ignoring “flaws” in his stories. Also, many people (myself one of them) believes that Novak’s and Stewart’s performances are (third time) two of the greatest in film history and that Vertigo would not be Vertigo without them both exactly as they are. Also important are the memorable supporting roles: Barbara bel Geddes as Midge, Scotty’s best female friend. It is hard to believe, seeing her in this, that she was the same actress who originated the role of Maggie the Cat in Tennessee William’s “Cat on a Hot Tin Roof” for Broadway. Tom Helmore as Gavin Elster Henry Jones as the Coroner And veteran character actor and bit part player Fred Graham (Sheriff Jeff in “The Giant Gila Monster” - one of MST3K’s best) as the cop who falls from the rooftop in the opening scene.
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Vertigo
Mar 21, 2018 21:39:45 GMT
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Post by sdrew13163 on Mar 21, 2018 21:39:45 GMT
A very good movie, but not better than Rear Window. It does get better with each viewing, though.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 21, 2018 22:58:10 GMT
I used to think I was missing the boat completely on the ending... when upon dvd commentary, apparently it was just her being shocked at what she thought was death incarnate. I used to wonder wtf was the symbolism in the tower like it was 2001 ASO... when it's not really about anything too deep at all.
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Post by outrider127 on Mar 21, 2018 23:39:10 GMT
A beautifully shot movie, see the forest scene--and unusual colorful dream sequence, unique and risky in a 1950's film--But when he first sees her as a redhead and thinks oh you just remind me of someone, what! I mean come on, she's a carbon copy! A twin! Even someone with cataracts could see its the same person
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Mar 22, 2018 9:48:26 GMT
My favorite Hitch, and probably in my all time Top 25, 10/10
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Post by marianne48 on Mar 22, 2018 23:49:52 GMT
A good premise, with Kim Novak's best performance and an effectively haunting soundtrack, but James Stewart is miscast. A better choice would be someone younger and more macho, so that his vulnerability would be more of a contrast. Robert Mitchum might have been a better choice--more believable both as the college sweetheart of Barbara Bel Geddes character, and as a guy Novak's character(s) would fall hard for. Watching Mitchum picking out just the right dress for Judy would be much more bizarre than Stewart's somewhat more paternal aura when doing so. That dream sequence is pretty hokey, too.
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Post by ck100 on Mar 23, 2018 0:35:09 GMT
I found it boring when I saw it.
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Post by Vits on Mar 23, 2018 18:23:48 GMT
7/10
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Post by mecano04 on Mar 23, 2018 18:53:49 GMT
Quite possibly in the top 5 from Hitchcock but I wouldn't say it's my favorite.
Personally I would have it above Psycho, Rear Window and The Birds but under Lifeboat, Notorious and The Lady Vanishes.
In other words, I would recommend watching it but not as the top choice to get an idea of Hitchcock.
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Post by petrolino on Mar 24, 2018 3:41:34 GMT
Nice movie.
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