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Post by Vits on Apr 1, 2018 17:44:36 GMT
There have been a lot of debates on whether CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST (which is about a team led by anthropologist HAROLD MONROE who go to the Amazon rainforest to find a missing film crew) is a satire or not. I understand both sides of the argument but, in the end, it doesn’t matter to me. It’s still a badly-acted movie that tries so hard to shock that it bores. Half of the movie is shown from MONROE's point of view and the other half is… well, found footage (this movie created the sub-genre). This structure causes bad pacing in the plot. 1/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog (in English, in Spanish or in Italian).
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Apr 2, 2018 10:07:42 GMT
Dear Ruggero Deodato,
a day after 9/11, somebody should have sent a copy of your film to the Bush administration. They would never have invaded Iraq.
Let me just say that Cannibal Holocaust is a tremendous achievement. What can you say about a 35 year old horror film that puts most modern horror films to shame? There is just so much to appreciate in your film.
Let me start with the structure. Now I am no horror movie geek. But I think yours must be one of the first found footage films. Only a third of the movie is found footage. Unlike recent found footage films, your film involves characters reflecting on the found footage. I think this was a great idea as it provides context.
Your fearless daring also needs to be appreciated. I heard you got arrested for some of the stuff you put on film. But I read that Sergio Leone congratulated your personally. So it did pay off in the end. I admit that I had to take my eyes off the screen during some of the animal violence. But I don't get all the outrage. I am on the side of the people who argue that animals get murdered everyday to feed families anyway. The scenes of violence between the tribal s and the civilized were also gruesome and disturbing. I can only imagine what went on during the shoot. I guess the crew must have had great fun. The sex scene was almost pornographic. I seriously doubt whether they were acting.
And that score by Riz Ortolani. And the way you used it. Ortolani's score which conveys a sense of nostalgia and doom at the same time elevated this movie to another level. I cannot imagine this movie without the background score. Or this background score being used for another movie. The tune called "Adulteress' Punishment" played during the scenes of primitive violence is just art. The warm and summery "Main Theme" provides a great start to the film with the overhead shot of the forest.
Last but not the least, the social commentary. I couldn't help but feel that the whole film is a critique of Western intervention in the affairs of third world nations. The two fighting tribes and the civilized Western man playing them against each other is almost certainly you having a go at American foreign policy. The civilized Western man and woman making love out in the open as the tribal s look on could be an allegory for the spread of debauched Western culture across the world. And the repeated shots of the tall skyscrapers in the Western cities. Were you implying that in the face of man's primitive urges, all the skyscrapers would amount to nothing - I wonder if the 9/11 terrorists watched CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST.
Once again, your film is a tremendous achievement. I am not rating it a 10/10 due to the bad acting. But that is a minor complaint in a film like this.
I hope to watch this in Blu Ray. And I will be watching more of your movies.
Best Regards, Pimpin.
(9/10)
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 3, 2018 7:24:36 GMT
I actually really like it. 8/10
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Apr 3, 2018 7:50:39 GMT
I actually really like it. 8/10 Of course you do. Because it’s a great movie and giving it 1/10 makes no sense.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 3, 2018 7:57:19 GMT
I actually really like it. 8/10 Of course you do. Because it’s a great movie and giving it 1/10 makes no sense. I need to get the DVD. I had it once but I didnt think I would want to see it again so I sold it. Big mistake on my part.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Apr 3, 2018 8:04:01 GMT
Of course you do. Because it’s a great movie and giving it 1/10 makes no sense. I need to get the DVD. I had it once but I didnt think I would want to see it again so I sold it. Big mistake on my part. I own it both on DVD and Blu-ray. Not only a truly disturbing movie but also a really well made movie.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Apr 3, 2018 11:37:32 GMT
Have not seen it since the summer of 2006, when it was (I think) first given a complete and uncut DVD release here in Norway and I remember being both impressed but also very "disgusted" by it as I had never seen a "Cannibal" film before and it sure was not the most "pleasant" movie experience, that's for sure. However, the music and soundtrack became a huge favorite of mine and I also decided to pick up a few similar themed Italian Cannibal films that same time, but I remembered them to be more "cheesy" than downright cruel as I felt Holocaust surely was in some way, but I really should give it another shot sometime soon, as I have not seen it for far too long and maybe I will like it even more this time around.
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Post by Father Jack on Apr 3, 2018 12:45:07 GMT
This was aired a lot on the old board. I'll chuck in my two pence worth again.
It might have some merit in it, it might not... I'll never know. Animal cruelty has no place in entertainment, and the film maker made a huge error of judgement by doing this.
Will never watch for that reason. Shame really, as everything else about it sounds interesting.
Ps. Yes I know there is an animal cruelty free edit, and that the maker now says he really regrets doing the animal stuff.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Apr 3, 2018 15:18:23 GMT
I actually really like it. 8/10 Of course you do. Because it’s a great movie and giving it 1/10 makes no sense. Yeah, this is an obvious bait thread.
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Post by Vits on Apr 4, 2018 10:45:05 GMT
Of course you do. Because it’s a great movie and giving it 1/10 makes no sense. Yeah, this is an obvious bait thread. Obvious how? I didn't just give it a low grade. I explained the reason. Also, I didn't write the grade in the title of the thread. Also-also, other users here and about half of the world's critics and viewers also don't like it.
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Post by lostinlimbo on Apr 6, 2018 1:43:42 GMT
Great film, even better, the music score. I thought the pacing was fine and the plot’s structure kept me enthralled.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 8, 2018 1:51:52 GMT
A horrific masterpiece.
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Post by yearspew on Apr 16, 2018 3:57:44 GMT
I remember I didn't care much for it, but I do want to rewatch it. I prefer Cannibal Ferox, which I found more interesting and entertaining overall.
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