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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 6, 2018 15:03:09 GMT
The prequels are actually very well written, they are just poorly executed. The wooden acting in most of the scenes and they are terribly put together. Revenge of the Sith is pretty well done. Attack of the Clones is easily the worst. Still, I would argue that the prequel trilogy has a better story than any other Star Wars story, including the OT. That does not mean they are better movies. I'm the opposite. i think the execution would have been great with more practical effects thrown in. Aside from Yoda, it easily had the best ight saber battles and the space battles would have been amazing if they used real models. To me, the story was truly horrible across the whole trilogy since the notion of mitichlorians was introduced. The thing I like is that it, and not last Jedi, introduced the democratization of the Force. People are upset that Rey isn't royalty why the prequels make pretty clear that lineage wasn't even tied to the Force unless someone broke the rules. Anakin is a bastard product of horny midichlorians and most of the padwans are given up by their parents to become Jedi who are never supposed to see them again. It's actually pretty sucky to be a Jedi, but I digress...
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Post by Jedan Archer on Apr 6, 2018 15:17:12 GMT
Was critical at first, but with each installment grew fonder. It's pretty neat a trilogy concept, with chapter I depicting the bright heydays and placing the underlying conflicts, then we literally go into red twilight (II) where the underlying conflicts are amplified and manifested, and finally everything breaks down in the dark unforgiving last act III.
These also have unique creative and narrative substance to distinguish these from all the generic blockbuster fare pandering to the masses.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 6, 2018 15:34:54 GMT
The prequels are actually very well written, they are just poorly executed. The wooden acting in most of the scenes and they are terribly put together. Revenge of the Sith is pretty well done. Attack of the Clones is easily the worst. Still, I would argue that the prequel trilogy has a better story than any other Star Wars story, including the OT. That does not mean they are better movies. would have been great with more practical effects thrown in. Aside from Yoda, it easily had the best ight saber battles and the space battles would have been amazing if they used real models. The ships were mostly models (unlike in the sequels), the effects were pretty practical for today with thousand of miniatures and sets (and real locations):
There are countless videos on this. These films are world building and design masterworks
that is true
The midis were not per se horny, they were manipulated by Darth Plagues to create life. It's - very subtly- revealed in the Opera Scene in Sith. Thus, you can say or speculate Plagueis was Anakin's father.
One of the so many things to decode from these movies.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 6, 2018 16:19:10 GMT
would have been great with more practical effects thrown in. Aside from Yoda, it easily had the best ight saber battles and the space battles would have been amazing if they used real models. The ships were mostly models (unlike in the sequels), the effects were pretty practical for today with thousand of miniatures and sets (and real locations):
There are countless videos on this. These films are world building and design masterworks
that is true
The midis were not per se horny, they were manipulated by Darth Plagues to create life. It's - very subtly- revealed in the Opera Scene in Sith. Thus, you can say or speculate Plagueis was Anakin's father.
One of the so many things to decode from these movies.
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Neat. It did not have the similar style to the originals. Everything looked faker, but maybe that had to do with the staging of the battles.
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 6, 2018 16:21:54 GMT
The Phantom Menace is the only complete turd in the PT. Attack of the Clones started out bad, but once Obi-Wan went to inspect the clone facility it really picked up; and IMHO the second half is a pretty kickass action movie. Revenge of the Sith has a few problems, but overall is really well-done, and I rank it ahead of Return of the Jedi, not to mention all of the new Disney stuff. Those are the two worst movies in the franchise. The acting is absolutely awful. Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman were terrible both individually and as a couple. She is a much more capable actors and completely phoned it in after the first movie. I would say that it’s arguably the worst performance of her career. I would say the same thing about Samuel L Jackson. He is ridiculously wooden throughout the series. Ian McDermid was pretty damn good until he revealed who he was – then he turned into a caricature. Both movies also look bad and have the worst light saber battles in the series. Lucas just went out of his mind with the CGI environments. The nonstop flipping and twirling during the duels was just silly. The cloning facility scenes gave us some of the most cringe or the stuff outside of Anakin and Padme:
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 6, 2018 16:30:40 GMT
LOL look at this crap:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 18:13:52 GMT
The prequels are actually very well written, they are just poorly executed. The wooden acting in most of the scenes and they are terribly put together. Revenge of the Sith is pretty well done. Attack of the Clones is easily the worst. Still, I would argue that the prequel trilogy has a better story than any other Star Wars story, including the OT. That does not mean they are better movies. I'm the opposite. i think the execution would have been great with more practical effects thrown in. Aside from Yoda, it easily had the best ight saber battles and the space battles would have been amazing if they used real models. To me, the story was truly horrible across the whole trilogy since the notion of mitichlorians was introduced. The thing I like is that it, and not last Jedi, introduced the democratization of the Force. People are upset that Rey isn't royalty why the prequels make pretty clear that lineage wasn't even tied to the Force unless someone broke the rules. Anakin is a bastard product of horny midichlorians and most of the padwans are given up by their parents to become Jedi who are never supposed to see them again. It's actually pretty sucky to be a Jedi, but I digress... Who cares about the acting, pretty much the only good acting in the original film, was obi wan and the old guy/darth vaders boss who got blowed up at the end. So, the acting was wooden in the ot but no one complains about that. So they just complain about it in the prequels cuz they don't like it?
The reason why they don't like the prequels imo, is they were not a fun adventure film (4 the most part)unlike the Ot! Imo. Which is fine, they don't have to like it of course. But how would they have a fun adventure film with the story they needed to tell though?
So, just some thoughts on that I guess, lol.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 6, 2018 18:29:37 GMT
I'm the opposite. i think the execution would have been great with more practical effects thrown in. Aside from Yoda, it easily had the best ight saber battles and the space battles would have been amazing if they used real models. To me, the story was truly horrible across the whole trilogy since the notion of mitichlorians was introduced. The thing I like is that it, and not last Jedi, introduced the democratization of the Force. People are upset that Rey isn't royalty why the prequels make pretty clear that lineage wasn't even tied to the Force unless someone broke the rules. Anakin is a bastard product of horny midichlorians and most of the padwans are given up by their parents to become Jedi who are never supposed to see them again. It's actually pretty sucky to be a Jedi, but I digress... Who cares about the acting, pretty much the only good acting in the original film, was obi wan and the old guy/darth vaders boss who got blowed up at the end. So, the acting was wooden in the ot but no one complains about that. So they just complain about it in the prequels cuz they don't like it?
The reason why they don't like the prequels imo, is they were not a fun adventure film (4 the most part)unlike the Ot! Imo. Which is fine, they don't have to like it of course. But how would they have a fun adventure film with the story they needed to tell though?
So, just some thoughts on that I guess, lol.
They aren't fun because Anakin is not a fun guy. That is not how one would describe Darth Vader, so why would Anakin be any different? That plus the fact we already knew how the story was going to go down means a bad story. Obiwan was the real hero. He was more adventurous, smart, & more skilled as a result of being more clever and yet they chose to have him play a reactionary character.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 19:03:43 GMT
Characters in the prequel's were one dimensional and intentionally simple., Exactly(more or less) like the characters in the Ot, imo. Not that I would complain about 'that' of course. In other words,the characters in both sets of films, were not only shallow, but designed to be that way.
I just figured I'd point that out. I don't really think it's a bad story, just different from the first three films which are fun adventure films, I really do.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 6, 2018 19:30:39 GMT
I will never get how people think The Phantom Menace is the worst one. Attack of the Clones is the worst one and there is no question. I love Star Wars and have actually watched all of the prequels many times. I enjoy them, cheese and all, but recognize that they are not great movies, execution wise. At least TPM has Liam Neeson, the best light saber battle in the series, Darth Maul, and the fairly cool looking Pod Race. Attack of the Clones was terrible in every way. The dialogue in this movie was the worst in all of them hands down. Every scene with Padme and Anakin was cringe worthy. Seriously horrible. Even Obi Wan, who is probably the best character in the PT, had some awful lines here.
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Post by NewtJorden on Apr 6, 2018 19:38:07 GMT
The Phantom Menace remains an especially awful movie. But Attack of the Clones is worst than Phantom Menace
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 22:04:50 GMT
Here's the thing: Yea about the lighsaber fights, they seemed to get better as the films went along: imo. Better in complexity: Empire had the lightsaber fight, that was simple, between Vader and luke. Then in return of the jedi there was a more complex fight, between emporer Luke and Vader Then you get to the epic sword fight, between darth Maul, and the 2 good guys, in phantom menace. (can't remember the character names, cuz they're bland as hell, lol) Then in episode 2, slightly more complex fight with lightsaber scenes. Then by the time you get to episode 3 you get the awesome fight, because it's Between two jedi's at the height of their powers.
Anyway, I think it's cool how they did that. Are the lightsaber fights always awesome in execution? NO! But it's still cool, how they did them.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 7, 2018 9:42:11 GMT
The Phantom Menace is the only complete turd in the PT. Attack of the Clones started out bad, but once Obi-Wan went to inspect the clone facility it really picked up; and IMHO the second half is a pretty kickass action movie. Revenge of the Sith has a few problems, but overall is really well-done, and I rank it ahead of Return of the Jedi, not to mention all of the new Disney stuff. Both movies also look bad and have the worst light saber battles in the series. Lucas just went out of his mind with the CGI environments. The nonstop flipping and twirling during the duels was just silly. The cloning facility scenes gave us some of the most cringe or the stuff outside of Anakin and Padme: lol, that interrogation scene is one of the best scenes - amazing how much tension you can pack purely with dialogue, acting and perfect scoring and without effects and 'splosions! Needless to say, contrary to your uninformed statements the environment were sets and miniatures. To put the "most cringe" in context, you are the one stating "it was soooooo goood" when discussing the hyper-juvenile penis, turd and nipples dialogue in Guardians. imdb2.freeforums.net/post/417519/thread That fully explains it, Kuato. But don't fret, as consolation price I give you a shot of your beloved raccoon turd to sniff, enjoy: Amazing, decades later, yet it looks sooooo real, soooooo good, and not cringe at all... "Dance off, turd blossom!". "You may go home and rethink your life".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 15:44:02 GMT
The Phantom Menace remains an especially awful movie. But Attack of the Clones is worst than Phantom Menace Yea, but then it AOtC you get the aweseome fight between Jango Fett and some other guy. It's better than any scene with boba fett in the original trilogy. I don't know, am I wrong?
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