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Post by politicidal on Apr 6, 2018 15:59:28 GMT
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 6, 2018 16:39:44 GMT
I thought the first one was decidedly adult.
The second one was darker I suppose.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 6, 2018 16:48:24 GMT
It was stranger than the first one was allowed to be, I'd say.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Apr 6, 2018 18:25:49 GMT
Lost in this controversy is the fact that we never got "Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian"!
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 6, 2018 20:19:31 GMT
Batman Returns wouldn't have worked if it wasn't so gothic and violent. It's kind of the point of the movie.
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Post by ck100 on Apr 6, 2018 21:28:31 GMT
And yet we had violent R-rated movies like Rambo and Robocop be marketed to kids through toys and cartoons without adults going nuts over it prior to Batman Returns.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 6, 2018 21:58:13 GMT
And yet we had violent R-rated movies like Rambo and Robocop be marketed to kids through toys and cartoons without adults going nuts over it prior to Batman Returns. Yeah this whole backlash thing seemed to start in the 90s or something. |
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Post by anthonyrocks on Apr 6, 2018 22:47:12 GMT
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 6, 2018 23:33:09 GMT
BR was & remains a headache & a half.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 7, 2018 1:19:46 GMT
They had to have known it was going to be dark and more for adults like the first one was. Granted Returns is a darker film but still. Thats one of the reasons why I love Returns. It has a great dark, gothic tone that feels like a grim graphic novel that came to life. Its a favorite of mine.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Apr 7, 2018 1:49:19 GMT
Same thing happened after the first Ninja Turtles movie came out back in 1990. Stupid adults and their mollycoddling ways (I say this as someone who was a child during this period).
Fortunately, my own Mum didn't prevent us from watching these films (though she drew the line at Jurassic Park).
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Post by politicidal on Apr 7, 2018 1:54:30 GMT
They had to have known it was going to be dark and more for adults like the first one was. Granted Returns is a darker film but still. Thats one of the reasons why I love Returns. It has a great dark, gothic tone that feels like a grim graphic novel that came to life. Its a favorite of mine. I like it too. Seems WB has had this thing for years where they hire a director who doubles down on their trademark style and pay the price for it. |
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Post by hardball on Apr 7, 2018 4:19:52 GMT
My least favorite Batman film.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 7, 2018 6:00:29 GMT
I thought the first one was decidedly adult. The second one was darker I suppose. Well, the first one didn't open with a baby being thrown in a sewer. Returns was also pretty sexually charged. |
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Post by anthonyrocks on Apr 16, 2018 14:29:56 GMT
WOW, I can't believe what I have been reading here.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Apr 16, 2018 15:28:40 GMT
It's my favorite Batman movie, including the Nolans. As politicidal & darkreviewer2013 stated, the whole "Oh my god, think of the kids" crap started in the 90s. Sure it was dark, but it was rated PG13...the freaking parents whined and bitched until they got such a rating, but didn't pay attention to it once it was a thing. Proof that not everyone should be allowed to breed.
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Post by NewtJorden on Apr 16, 2018 16:05:09 GMT
Its still the best Batman movie in my opinion.
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Post by vegalyra on Apr 16, 2018 16:12:40 GMT
I have to admit that after the first one I stopped paying attention. I like BR, but I don't like the Penguin character. Keaton was still awesome and Pfeiffer was great, but without Vicki Vale and the crazy DeVito portrayal of the Penguin I really didn't like it. I won't talk about the other films in this series. The less said about them the better. Nolan resurrected what was basically a dead and putrified franchise.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 16, 2018 16:37:05 GMT
Same thing happened after the first Ninja Turtles movie came out back in 1990. Stupid adults and their mollycoddling ways (I say this as someone who was a child during this period). Fortunately, my own Mum didn't prevent us from watching these films (though she drew the line at Jurassic Park). I gotta admit, that's an odd line to draw. |
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Post by maxwellperfect on Apr 16, 2018 19:46:42 GMT
I don't think 'Returns' was all that much darker than 'Batman.' More surrealistic and dreamlike, maybe.
Incidentally, I still have a glass mug from Burger King sold as a 'Batman Forever' promotion.
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