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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2018 14:03:27 GMT
I started a thread about this on the DCEU board earlier today and I am very interested with 'Birds of Prey' now being a high priority and filming towards the end of the year do you think Black Canary will be leaving Arrow? It is very likely she is going to be in the movie since Barbara and Dinah were the founding members and they made them stop using Deathstroke and he hasn't even got a solid movie lined up so what are your thoughts? Batgirl and Harley Quinn Are Priorities With Birds of Prey Movie
screenrant.com/birds-prey-movie-batgirl-harley-quinn/
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Post by General Kenobi on Apr 19, 2018 15:11:23 GMT
No one will be sad to see her leave.
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Post by Larcen26 on Apr 19, 2018 15:35:31 GMT
I am pretty surprised they are pushing Birds of Prey over Gotham City Sirens.
Sirens lets them introduce Catwoman, who has much broader appeal than Black Canary.
Both let them use Harley, but the third member of Birds is up in the air. I suppose they could use Catwoman in either.
And I will yet again leave my belief that Janelle Monae or Taraji P Henson should be the DCEU Catwoman.
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Post by dazz on Apr 20, 2018 10:19:48 GMT
I think id prefer a GCS flick, allows them to focus on Harley with Robbie as the lead, introduce Catwoman & Ivy and still allow for the appearance of Batgirl and even Canary which actually sets up a BOP movie, also Sirens would allow for a more light hearted film more in line with a GOTG but with a little more edge.
I just hope they do Batgirl justice and we get a better version of Dinah than Arrows ever delivered regardless of which Dinah/Laurel/Canary you want to choose from.
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Post by General Kenobi on Apr 20, 2018 14:46:07 GMT
Are they pushing a Birds of Prey movie? Because I haven't heard that. I thought Gotham City Sirens was still going ahead and was close to getting a director. Or am I really out of the loop?
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Post by dazz on Apr 20, 2018 17:55:28 GMT
You're out the loop apparently BOP is greenlit, a relatively unknown female Asian director who did a film called dead pigs made a pitch that WB loved so she's got the go ahead, whether the film cast anybody before she splits due to "creative differences" or we actually get the movie is anyone's guess though.
Also WB aint got a fucking clue what they want to do which is why we have not have a Batgirl film kinda not really in development, Nightwing is a go but on hold at the same time for about the next 5 years, WB are itching to do a new Batman movie but Reeves is moving forward slower than a snail on the back of a sloth moving in the opposite direction which is stuck in the time distortions of a black hole, Scorsese Joker flick is moving ahead but maybe without Scorsese and may or may not feature Joaquin Phoenix whilst MOS 2, Green Lantern Corp, Black Adam are all in the pipeline but no one is set to direct, no one has been cast, none have scripts and so on...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 13:38:39 GMT
I respect all your opinions but I have to disagree. ‘Birds of Prey’ are the bigger team. In fact ‘Birds of Prey’ are the biggest selling female team series in comic book history and have been around for a long time now while ‘Gotham City Sirens’ was a short lived series that was never as popular as the ‘Birds of Prey.’ A lot of people I know who read comic books wanted ‘Birds of Prey’ more than ‘Gotham City Sirens’ and while there is no doubting Catwoman is a bigger star than Black Canary Batgirl is a bigger star than all of them and according to DC in her ‘50th Anniversary Book Batgirl is the third biggest selling female superhero of all time below Supergirl and Wonder Woman with the combined sales of ‘Batgirl’ and ‘Birds of Prey’ comic books. Catwoman has had more on screen adaptions than Batgirl but that is only 'cause Christopher Nolan hated the Bat Family and kept them off screen and in an interview with Scott Snyder he confirmed it was Christopher Nolan keeping the Bat Family out of his movies and Warner Bros wanted to use them which was one of the main reasons the Bat Family become more pushed in the New 52 'cause more people wanted them and he said DC got a lot of complaints from fans over Nolan not having the Bat Family members in the movies.
The DCEU hasn't been perfect so far and a lot of the movies have stunk but a new Bat Universe could be quite the opposite and I think movies of 'The Batman','Birds of Prey', 'Batgirl' and 'Nightwing' are a good way to kick that off and hopefully we get movies of 'Titans', 'Batwoman', 'Red Hood and the Outlaws', 'We Are Robin', 'Catwoman' (a PROPER one this time), 'Black Canary', 'Secret Six', 'Batman Beyond' and 'Batman Unlimited' next along with the Spoiler, Red Robin, Orphan and Bluebird in 'The Batman' movies!!
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Post by Larcen26 on Apr 24, 2018 14:12:38 GMT
I respect all your opinions but I have to disagree. ‘Birds of Prey’ are the bigger team. In fact ‘Birds of Prey’ are the biggest selling female team series in comic book history and have been around for a long time now while ‘Gotham City Sirens’ was a short lived series that was never as popular as the ‘Birds of Prey.’ A lot of people I know who read comic books wanted ‘Birds of Prey’ more than ‘Gotham City Sirens’ and while there is no doubting Catwoman is a bigger star than Black Canary Batgirl is a bigger star than all of them and according to DC in her ‘50th Anniversary Book Batgirl is the third biggest selling female superhero of all time below Supergirl and Wonder Woman with the combined sales of ‘Batgirl’ and ‘Birds of Prey’ comic books. Catwoman has had more on screen adaptions than Batgirl but that is only 'cause Christopher Nolan hated the Bat Family and kept them off screen and in an interview with Scott Snyder he confirmed it was Christopher Nolan keeping the Bat Family out of his movies and Warner Bros wanted to use them which was one of the main reasons the Bat Family become more pushed in the New 52 'cause more people wanted them and he said DC got a lot of complaints from fans over Nolan not having the Bat Family members in the movies.The DCEU hasn't been perfect so far and a lot of the movies have stunk but a new Bat Universe could be quite the opposite and I think movies of 'The Batman','Birds of Prey', 'Batgirl' and 'Nightwing' are a good way to kick that off and hopefully we get movies of 'Titans', 'Batwoman', 'Red Hood and the Outlaws', 'We Are Robin', 'Catwoman' (a PROPER one this time), 'Black Canary', 'Secret Six', 'Batman Beyond' and 'Batman Unlimited' next along with the Spoiler, Red Robin, Orphan and Bluebird in 'The Batman' movies!! You are talking from a Comic Book reader's perspective. You have to look at it from the POV of the average movie goer. Harley Quinn, Catwoman and Poison Ivy have more Pop Culture resonance/recognition than Black Canary and Huntress. The only Bird of Prey with recognition is Batgirl, and only as Batgirl, they have no idea who Oracle is. True, Black Canary has a bit more due to Arrow, but we can all admit that the CW shows don't have the viewership to permeate larger pop culture. But the general public hear the name "Black Canary" and think it's ridiculous. In "Gotham City Sirens" you get the three more recognizable names and can still keep Batgirl in the mix, plus you get a cooler name with direct and obvious branding ties. I also think you get a better mix of character dynamics depending on how you play Harley. I see them playing up the Heroic side of Catwoman, the villainous side of Ivy, and keeping Harley as the wild card in the middle. Sure, you can get that a bit with Birds of Prey, but the plot of the film would have to dedicate more time to establishing their characters and relationships, whereas with the Sirens, general pop culture awareness can take care of a big chunk of that for you. In fact I think each dynamic in Sirens is ripe for good film moments, Catwoman and Ivy vs. Harley because of how the Joker treats her, Harley and Ivy vs. Catwoman because of her relationship with Batman, Catwoman and Harley vs. Ivy because she is willing to kill innocents. There isn't a dynamic there that isn't easily established and compelling without having to resort to a massive backstory. It's the easier, and better, movie across the board in my opinion. (and YES, I recognize that there are tons of compelling dynamics in Birds of Prey, but I am talking purely about which would make the better movie, not that Birds of Prey is unworthy.)
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Post by dazz on Apr 24, 2018 14:22:15 GMT
It's not about size though JL should have been huge with what the line up was but it did the worst of all the films, MOS had far more mainstream value than GOTG but GOTG blew it out the water in terms of box office, given the driving force behind BOP is Robbie apparently and I have heard a lot of people saying Harley has no real ties to the BOP outside of the short lived TV show, so it seems odd for them to be pushing for BOP film as a vehicle for Robbie to star in, which is why I would prefer GCS first give Robbie her staring film and spin BOP out of it by letting Batgirl & Canary star in it similar to how BVS & CW gave the world a taste of their universes Wonder Woman, Spider-Man & Black Panther.
I mean do you really want them to introduce characters like Batgirl or Black Canary in their own films where it may end up just being a starring vehicle for another actor? I mean it could work out great which fingers crossed it does, but for all we know the reason Robbie loved the BOP idea is because of how much it emphasised her, you know how actors can be sometimes, and I'm not really sure how Robbie is, is she a all about me type or is more about the film than herself? hopefully it's the latter.
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Post by dazz on Apr 24, 2018 14:33:49 GMT
I respect all your opinions but I have to disagree. ‘Birds of Prey’ are the bigger team. In fact ‘Birds of Prey’ are the biggest selling female team series in comic book history and have been around for a long time now while ‘Gotham City Sirens’ was a short lived series that was never as popular as the ‘Birds of Prey.’ A lot of people I know who read comic books wanted ‘Birds of Prey’ more than ‘Gotham City Sirens’ and while there is no doubting Catwoman is a bigger star than Black Canary Batgirl is a bigger star than all of them and according to DC in her ‘50th Anniversary Book Batgirl is the third biggest selling female superhero of all time below Supergirl and Wonder Woman with the combined sales of ‘Batgirl’ and ‘Birds of Prey’ comic books. Catwoman has had more on screen adaptions than Batgirl but that is only 'cause Christopher Nolan hated the Bat Family and kept them off screen and in an interview with Scott Snyder he confirmed it was Christopher Nolan keeping the Bat Family out of his movies and Warner Bros wanted to use them which was one of the main reasons the Bat Family become more pushed in the New 52 'cause more people wanted them and he said DC got a lot of complaints from fans over Nolan not having the Bat Family members in the movies.The DCEU hasn't been perfect so far and a lot of the movies have stunk but a new Bat Universe could be quite the opposite and I think movies of 'The Batman','Birds of Prey', 'Batgirl' and 'Nightwing' are a good way to kick that off and hopefully we get movies of 'Titans', 'Batwoman', 'Red Hood and the Outlaws', 'We Are Robin', 'Catwoman' (a PROPER one this time), 'Black Canary', 'Secret Six', 'Batman Beyond' and 'Batman Unlimited' next along with the Spoiler, Red Robin, Orphan and Bluebird in 'The Batman' movies!! You are talking from a Comic Book reader's perspective. You have to look at it from the POV of the average movie goer. Harley Quinn, Catwoman and Poison Ivy have more Pop Culture resonance/recognition than Black Canary and Huntress. The only Bird of Prey with recognition is Batgirl, and only as Batgirl, they have no idea who Oracle is. True, Black Canary has a bit more due to Arrow, but we can all admit that the CW shows don't have the viewership to permeate larger pop culture. But the general public hear the name "Black Canary" and think it's ridiculous. In "Gotham City Sirens" you get the three more recognizable names and can still keep Batgirl in the mix, plus you get a cooler name with direct and obvious branding ties. I also think you get a better mix of character dynamics depending on how you play Harley. I see them playing up the Heroic side of Catwoman, the villainous side of Ivy, and keeping Harley as the wild card in the middle. Sure, you can get that a bit with Birds of Prey, but the plot of the film would have to dedicate more time to establishing their characters and relationships, whereas with the Sirens, general pop culture awareness can take care of a big chunk of that for you. In fact I think each dynamic in Sirens is ripe for good film moments, Catwoman and Ivy vs. Harley because of how the Joker treats her, Harley and Ivy vs. Catwoman because of her relationship with Batman, Catwoman and Harley vs. Ivy because she is willing to kill innocents. There isn't a dynamic there that isn't easily established and compelling without having to resort to a massive backstory. It's the easier, and better, movie across the board in my opinion. (and YES, I recognize that there are tons of compelling dynamics in Birds of Prey, but I am talking purely about which would make the better movie, not that Birds of Prey is unworthy.) I think BOP maybe better suited not having a star like Robbie involved just because as you said the BOP are not all that well known, sure Batgirl is but even then she's well known as one of Batman's sidekicks, so a BOP movie would seemingly need a considerable amount of time to set the stage and explore the character dynamics, which when you have a major star sometimes that wont happen because you have to use that time to bolster the stars ego, such as in Suicide Squad where instead of selling the squad as a premise it was a little more a showcase for Smith & Robbie.
Having BOP have to rely on the characters of Batgirl, Canary & Huntress and their interaction and history might be the better option in the long run, and if you have Robbie in their she's going to absorb a lot of the attention because she's your big star, also god knows how she'll be used, hero, villain, anti-hero or if that will actually vibe with the actual core of the BOP, I mean finding the balance between staying true to the comics and varying for mainstream consumption can be very tricky, and WB is hardly on a hot streak in terms of their movies as of late DC wise.
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Post by Larcen26 on Apr 24, 2018 16:12:31 GMT
You are talking from a Comic Book reader's perspective. You have to look at it from the POV of the average movie goer. Harley Quinn, Catwoman and Poison Ivy have more Pop Culture resonance/recognition than Black Canary and Huntress. The only Bird of Prey with recognition is Batgirl, and only as Batgirl, they have no idea who Oracle is. True, Black Canary has a bit more due to Arrow, but we can all admit that the CW shows don't have the viewership to permeate larger pop culture. But the general public hear the name "Black Canary" and think it's ridiculous. In "Gotham City Sirens" you get the three more recognizable names and can still keep Batgirl in the mix, plus you get a cooler name with direct and obvious branding ties. I also think you get a better mix of character dynamics depending on how you play Harley. I see them playing up the Heroic side of Catwoman, the villainous side of Ivy, and keeping Harley as the wild card in the middle. Sure, you can get that a bit with Birds of Prey, but the plot of the film would have to dedicate more time to establishing their characters and relationships, whereas with the Sirens, general pop culture awareness can take care of a big chunk of that for you. In fact I think each dynamic in Sirens is ripe for good film moments, Catwoman and Ivy vs. Harley because of how the Joker treats her, Harley and Ivy vs. Catwoman because of her relationship with Batman, Catwoman and Harley vs. Ivy because she is willing to kill innocents. There isn't a dynamic there that isn't easily established and compelling without having to resort to a massive backstory. It's the easier, and better, movie across the board in my opinion. (and YES, I recognize that there are tons of compelling dynamics in Birds of Prey, but I am talking purely about which would make the better movie, not that Birds of Prey is unworthy.) I think BOP maybe better suited not having a star like Robbie involved just because as you said the BOP are not all that well known, sure Batgirl is but even then she's well known as one of Batman's sidekicks, so a BOP movie would seemingly need a considerable amount of time to set the stage and explore the character dynamics, which when you have a major star sometimes that wont happen because you have to use that time to bolster the stars ego, such as in Suicide Squad where instead of selling the squad as a premise it was a little more a showcase for Smith & Robbie.
Having BOP have to rely on the characters of Batgirl, Canary & Huntress and their interaction and history might be the better option in the long run, and if you have Robbie in their she's going to absorb a lot of the attention because she's your big star, also god knows how she'll be used, hero, villain, anti-hero or if that will actually vibe with the actual core of the BOP, I mean finding the balance between staying true to the comics and varying for mainstream consumption can be very tricky, and WB is hardly on a hot streak in terms of their movies as of late DC wise.
All of your reasons are why I think Sirens is the better bet than BOP. I'm not saying never do BOP, but start with the Sirens. Use the "goodwill" that Robbie's Harley generally has, to help launch it. If it happens before "Batgirl" you use that movie to launch her, even if through a minor cameo, like WW in BvS. Let Joss weigh in on how she is introduced. Then, (let's assume it's a success) you use that to segue into the Batgirl solo flick, maybe Huntress or Canary has a small role in Batgirl. Have BoP essentially be the third part of a "Women of Gotham" trilogy. Catwoman can then peel off and become part of "The Batman"
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Post by General Kenobi on Apr 24, 2018 17:01:23 GMT
I thought Joss was n longer connected to Batgirl and the Harley Quinn film is based on Gotham City Sirens. Haven't heard anything about a Birds of Prey movie. Not that that means anything as I'm usually out of the loop.
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Post by Larcen26 on Apr 24, 2018 17:54:38 GMT
I thought Joss was n longer connected to Batgirl and the Harley Quinn film is based on Gotham City Sirens. Haven't heard anything about a Birds of Prey movie. Not that that means anything as I'm usually out of the loop. You're right, he isn't...but that doesn't change my thought.
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Post by General Kenobi on Apr 25, 2018 19:16:44 GMT
Just to make sure we're on the same page, you mean the director of Batgirl weigh in on how she's introduced in the Harley Quinn movie/
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Post by Larcen26 on Apr 25, 2018 20:59:34 GMT
Just to make sure we're on the same page, you mean the director of Batgirl weigh in on how she's introduced in the Harley Quinn movie/ Yup. While WW came out fantastic, the way she was introduced in BvS could have been tweaked a bit to fall more in line with the character in her solo film. (I understand why that wasn't the case in this example, but Batgirl already has the players in place to do it, so why not?)
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Post by dazz on Apr 25, 2018 23:35:55 GMT
Just to make sure we're on the same page, you mean the director of Batgirl weigh in on how she's introduced in the Harley Quinn movie/ Yup. While WW came out fantastic, the way she was introduced in BvS could have been tweaked a bit to fall more in line with the character in her solo film. (I understand why that wasn't the case in this example, but Batgirl already has the players in place to do it, so why not?) Well BVS was in the can ready to go long before WW began shooting, the discrepancies between the two fall on WW's shoulders, and was likely purposely done to get away from the downer notes of BVS, and not an intentional choice prior to BVS being shit canned for being a depressing movie.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 11:47:55 GMT
I agree. Harley Quinn, Catwoman and Poison Ivy have more pop culture recognition than most of the members in ‘Birds Of Prey’ but let’s not forgot up until the ‘Suicide Squad’ movie Harley Quinn was a lesser known name than the Black Canary and the Huntress and her only Live Action adaption was in the ‘Birds of Prey’ TV show whereas the Black Canary on the other hand appeared in more TV shows like ‘Birds Of Prey’, ‘Smallville’ and ‘Arrow.’ The Black Canary was more well-known than 90 percent of the characters in the ‘Suicide Squad’ movie and still is since the only real standout of that film was Harley Quinn and it didn’t exactly turn Captain Boomerang, El Diablo, Rick Flag or the Enchantress in to household names despite its success and the Joker’s small role is more-well known. If DC/ Warner Bros were to adapt female characters starting from the most well-known one then Supergirl should be second in line to get a movie after ‘Wonder Woman’ since Supergirl is the second biggest selling female superhero of all time and is a bigger name than a lot of other names that have movies in development now.
I can’t say I know anybody who doesn’t know of Supergirl but the only people I know who had heard of Aquaman and Cyborg before ‘Justice League’ were comic book fans and a few fans that remember them on ‘Smallville’ which put them both in the same boat as Black Canary and Cyborg was far more known to comic book fans for being in ‘Teen Titans.’ If we are going on pop culture ‘Supergirl’ should be getting a movie in the DCEU before Aquaman, Shazam, Green Lantern Corps and Cyborg since she is a bigger name than all of them and after the awful job the TV show has done so far a movie could give us a truer adaption to the comic books much like Tim Burton's 'Batman' did after the Adam West show. Green Arrow should also be getting his own movie since he is a bigger name than the others and DC themselves have pointed out the popularity of the Green Arrow in ‘Smallville’ and ‘Arrow’ made him go from one of their lesser knowns to an A lister and as far as ‘New Gods’ and ‘Lobo’ most comic book fans I know haven’t even of them but they have movies in development. They are far more obscure than the Black Canary and the Huntress.
That being said I don’t think superheroes should need to be well known to general audiences to have movies and this has always been Warner Bros’ main problem and one of the reasons why Marvel has been more successful with the MCU. Instead of constantly making movies of the same 2 superheroes like Warner Bros have done for decades with Superman and Batman Marvel adapted the likes of Iron Man, Thor, Doctor Strange, Antman, Guardians of the Galaxy etc – all of which were lesser known to general audiences in the 90s and early 00s than Sabrina the Teenage Witch and if Warner Bros want to compete with Disney with superhero movies they need to start adapting other series and not the same ones over and over again just ‘cause they are known to general audiences. General audiences only know the ones Hollywood decides to adapt and the difference with DC and Marvel is Marvel is Marvel have already had most of their biggest selling superheroes appear on the big screen like Spider-Man, X Men, The Incredible Hulk, The Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Captain America and Daredevil. They have had multiple movies of ‘The Punisher’ and even movies of ‘Blade’, ‘Howard the Duck’, ‘Thor’, ‘Men In Black’, ‘Ghost Rider’, ‘Nick Fury’, ‘Ant Man’ and ‘Guardians of the Galaxy.’
Again, the majority of those names weren’t well known before they got movies movies especially the bottom ones but they were some of Marvel’s biggest selling comic book series of all time and were adapted into which is what Warner Bros should be doing with DC and we should have already got movies of Supergirl, the Green Arrow, Martian Manhunter, Teen Titans, Birds of Prey, Batgirl, Nightwing, Batwoman, Red Hood and the Outlaws, Gen 13, Wild Cats, JSA, LOS, Booster Gold etc years ago. I mean it is pathetic ‘Teen Titans’ hasn’t had a live action movie out when it is DC’s biggest selling team series of all time and also one of their most well-known series thanks to the animated series and animated movies yet Marvel have had movies of ‘X Men’, ‘The Fantastic Four’, ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’ and are now said to be adapting ‘The Eternals’ and three other lesser known teams.
Back on the subject of ‘Birds of Prey’ though a number of sites I have read are saying Lady Blackhawk and Starling could be in the movie too and with a ‘Blackhawk’ movie in development (who are lesser known than Black Canary and the Huntress) Lady Blackhawk ties ‘Blackhawk’ perfectly into the DCEU with Zinda time travelling to the future and joining the group. While the lineup of ‘Birds of Prey’ may not be as well-known as the lineup of ‘Gotham City Sirens’ it gives Warner Bros the chance to bring a number of their lesser known female superheroes like Lady Blackhawk and Starling to the screen for the very first time just like ‘Suicide Squad’ did with characters like Harley Quinn, Killer Croc, Captain Boomerang, El Diablo, Rick Flag and the Enchantress and if the movie’ is successful and they make a sequel like ‘Suicide Squad’ is getting they could introduce Strix and Misfit next and add Katana.
If Warner Bros are going to have success with the DCEU they need to actually starting giving their biggest selling DC’s characters a chance on the big screen for once instead of using the same ones that have already been used time and time again. This is ‘Superman’s problem with Lex Luthor and people thinking his only weakness is Kryptonite ‘cause 90 percent of his villains that could actually hurt him were tossed to the side for more Lex Luthor and while I agree pop culture recognition can help make movies successful people tend to forget or aren’t old enough to remember the average movie goer didn’t have a clue who 90 percent of most of these superheroes were before they got movies and a lot of the names that are big now only become well known in the past 15 years ‘cause they had movies. If the MCU never happened Sabrina the Teenage Witch would still be more well known to the average audience than 90 percent of Marvel’s superheroes.
Right now I would argue Black Canary is more well known to general audiences than 90 percent of superheroes that have got their own movies in the past 20 years before they had them and movie adaptions is why general audiences know about them.
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Post by dazz on Apr 26, 2018 12:14:32 GMT
I don't know how well know Black Canary would really be at this point Deb, I mean sure in theory the characters inclusion on Arrow should have increased her mainstream recognition but as Flash kind of poked fun at this week Black Canary has been so misused and hot potatoed around it's more confusing a IP than it is mainstream, I mean at this point can you imagine the normal discussing BC being in a movie after the clusterfúçk that is the characters history on Arrow?
Even before then she wasn't that well known given she was outside of the BOP series only got maybe 6 appearances on Smallville some of which were barely above cameo's and 3-4 proper appearances in JLU most her spots were again just cameos Young Justice I think has been her best prolonged exposure in the last 20 years outside of Arrow, which again probably done more harm than good seeing how Laurel & Black Canary/Siren have been some of the less well received parts of the show.
I think Sirens would do the best to hype people for a BOP film as Sirens you can sell on the IP's and on Robbie's star power, maybe even the performers you get for Ivy & Selena, it can be far more stand alone and just be a fun DC flick, in which you can give a Batgirl, Canary & Huntress each a 5 or 10 minute showcase like Diana got in BVS to hype people up for these characters then give them their own film where they can be the stars of their film.
I hope they keep the BOP film to Batgirl, Canary & Huntress or replace Huntress with someone else whatever, but keep it to 3 at a push 4 if you have a reason for it other than gotta get another character in here, as like with BVS, Suicide Squad & JL having too many characters you need to establish fucks with the movie, save the rest for a potential sequel or spin off's no need to jam it all in one film.
Just want to be clear though I'm not opposed to a BOP movie coming out first but I don't think a BOP film starring Robbie which she is helping produce and whose love of the BOP pitch helped get the director the job is the best way to do things, as I said I just don't want BOP to become a Margot Robbie vehicle, Sirens should be that or Suicide Squad 2 hell the Joker/Harley film can be that it shouldn't be BOP though, they deserve the spotlight for themselves because that way BOP can spin off into Batgirl, Canary or Huntress films which can bring in various other characters and so on and on...
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Post by dazz on Apr 28, 2018 10:14:31 GMT
Just to make sure we're on the same page, you mean the director of Batgirl weigh in on how she's introduced in the Harley Quinn movie/ Well the same person is writing both so in theory you shouldn't need to worry about how the character gels between the products, but then the writers prior works hardly leave me hopeful, her past 2 films she wrote are far from critically liked and the 3rd is the Bumblebee movie, which you know Transformers...hardly a high standard of quality in that franchise one must live up to so
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Post by General Kenobi on Apr 28, 2018 13:39:55 GMT
Gee, Warner Bros has pretty low standards when it comes to hiring. You think they would aim hire after earlier missteps with DCEU films.
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