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Post by lenlenlen1 on Apr 19, 2018 19:06:41 GMT
The Last Jedi was a letdown to a lot of fans partly because it didn't answer the questions set up by The Force Awakens. So, just for fun, lets compile a list of questions we would like answered in future movies.
I'll start...
What's Snoke's backstory? Who are the other Knights of Ren? What is "Ren"? Who were the other students Luke was teaching? Could any of them have survived? Whats going to happen with the Jedi Text? Whats going to happen with Leia? Who are Rey's parents? I know, I know. TLJ said they're nobody, but I still think Abrams or somebody can do better than that, even if they're not major players or Jedi or force users. Anybody would be better than nobody. Also, I think it could be made that Kylo was lying so Rey would feel compelled to come over to his side, though it didn't work. Could she be a virgin birth like Anakin was?
What else?
EDIT 4/25/18:
How was the original lightsaber found? How did Maz Kanata get it? What is the extent of Maz's force powers? She's "no Jedi" but "knows the force"? What is her relationship if any to Luke?
What was Lor San Teka's (Max Von Sydow) back story? Who was he? He was important enough to have Luke's whereabouts info, and he knew who Ben/Kylo were. When did they meet before?
Is it just a coincidence that both Lor San Teka and Rey were on Jakku? Was he there to watch over her?
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Apr 20, 2018 0:53:05 GMT
I need a rewatch...but
Will the green saber come into play?
And how/where will it be uncovered?
(It’s still unaccounted for, right?)
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Apr 20, 2018 2:27:31 GMT
The Last Jedi was a letdown to a lot of fans partly because it didn't answer the questions set up by The Force Awakens. So, just for fun, lets compile a list of questions we would like answered in future movies.
I'll start...
What's Snoke's backstory? Who are the other Knights of Ren? What is "Ren"? Who were the other students Luke was teaching? Could any of them have survived? Whats going to happen with the Jedi Text? Whats going to happen with Leia? Who are Rey's parents? I know, I know. TLJ said they're nobody, but I still think Abrams or somebody can do better than that, even if they're not major players or Jedi or force users. Anybody would be better than nobody. Also, I think it could be made that Kylo was lying so Rey would feel compelled to come over to his side, though it didn't work. Could she be a virgin birth like Anakin was?
What else? Congratulations! You compiled a thorough list. I can't think of any to add at the moment. But if I do in the future then I will make another post. I will just comment on the questions that I hi-lighted in bold: 1. "Could any of (Luke's other apprentices) have survived?" -- The implication is yes. In TLJ when Luke was telling Rey about what happened with his academy and Kylo, he made a comment that Kylo killed most of them. That would seem to imply that a few of them survived. The problem is that this statement from Luke may not turn out to be a clue to a storyline in episode IX. After all we saw how many questions of TFA went nowhere in TLJ. It could just be another one of Abrams mystery box teases that goes nowhere. 2. "What's going to happen with the Jedi text?" -- It is interesting that Rian Johnson created a scene to show that those texts survived and were in Rey's possession. Even more quizzical is the fact that Yoda strongly implied that Rey didn't need them. It's a toss up whether this was something Johnson did to set up a storyline for episode 9. Especially considering the alleged bad communication and cooperation problems... the constant changes in writers and directors. (And sorry, but I can't help but be cynical about this story point, thinking Rey will use them in some capacity to imply that Yoda was wrong and that she is actually smarter than Master Yoda). 3. "Who are Rey's parents? I know, I know..." -- Dude! Don't do this to yourself! I have been down this path before being burned by Jar Jar Abrams mystery box. First, Abrams worked incredibly hard to get his audience to want to know who Rey's parents were in TFA. Rey constantly talking about it. Rey constantly trying to go back to Jakku to wait for them. Rey crying over Maz suggesting that she should look towards Luke as a parent figure rather than finding her real ones. Abrams beat us over the head with this subject matter. Second, when Abrams was questioned about who Rey's parents were he says that they have no significance. (Yes! That implies that had Abrams made TLJ he would've done exactly the same thing Rian Johnson did). Then Rian Johnson worked really hard to tell us that the identity of Rey's parents had no importance... they were nobodies. Every time Rey and Kylo get into a conversation about it, Kylo tells Rey that they were nobodies. When Rey gets the vision in the underwater cave, it tells her that the identity of her parents doesn't even matter. You got trolled by Jar Jar Abrams and Johnson with this storyline. We all did. (And if you know how Abrams mystery box works you shouldn't be surprised). This storyline is over! Don't volunteer to be a piñata victim to this any longer! As master Yoda said "Fear of loss and attachment is the path to the Darkside." 4. "Could (Rey) be a virgin birth (of the Force) like Anakin was?" -- Possibly. We will have to wait and see if Abrams intends any creative ideas to explain Rey's incredible affinity to the Force. But you also have to consider the possibility that it may never be explained. It just is (which is typical of the character archetype of Disney warrior princesses). |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Apr 20, 2018 14:11:30 GMT
The Last Jedi was a letdown to a lot of fans partly because it didn't answer the questions set up by The Force Awakens. So, just for fun, lets compile a list of questions we would like answered in future movies.
I'll start...
What's Snoke's backstory? Who are the other Knights of Ren? What is "Ren"? Who were the other students Luke was teaching? Could any of them have survived? Whats going to happen with the Jedi Text? Whats going to happen with Leia? Who are Rey's parents? I know, I know. TLJ said they're nobody, but I still think Abrams or somebody can do better than that, even if they're not major players or Jedi or force users. Anybody would be better than nobody. Also, I think it could be made that Kylo was lying so Rey would feel compelled to come over to his side, though it didn't work. Could she be a virgin birth like Anakin was?
What else? Congratulations! You compiled a thorough list. I can't think of any to add at the moment. But if I do in the future then I will make another post. I will just comment on the questions that I hi-lighted in bold: 1. "Could any of (Luke's other apprentices) have survived?" -- The implication is yes. In TLJ when Luke was telling Rey about what happened with his academy and Kylo, he made a comment that Kylo killed most of them. That would seem to imply that a few of them survived. The problem is that this statement from Luke may not turn out to be a clue to a storyline in episode IX. After all we saw how many questions of TFA went nowhere in TLJ. It could just be another one of Abrams mystery box teases that goes nowhere. 2. "What's going to happen with the Jedi text?" -- It is interesting that Rian Johnson created a scene to show that those texts survived and were in Rey's possession. Even more quizzical is the fact that Yoda strongly implied that Rey didn't need them. It's a toss up whether this was something Johnson did to set up a storyline for episode 9. Especially considering the alleged bad communication and cooperation problems... the constant changes in writers and directors. (And sorry, but I can't help but be cynical about this story point, thinking Rey will use them in some capacity to imply that Yoda was wrong and that she is actually smarter than Master Yoda). 3. "Who are Rey's parents? I know, I know..." -- Dude! Don't do this to yourself! I have been down this path before being burned by Jar Jar Abrams mystery box. First, Abrams worked incredibly hard to get his audience to want to know who Rey's parents were in TFA. Rey constantly talking about it. Rey constantly trying to go back to Jakku to wait for them. Rey crying over Maz suggesting that she should look towards Luke as a parent figure rather than finding her real ones. Abrams beat us over the head with this subject matter. Second, when Abrams was questioned about who Rey's parents were he says that they have no significance. (Yes! That implies that had Abrams made TLJ he would've done exactly the same thing Rian Johnson did). Then Rian Johnson worked really hard to tell us that the identity of Rey's parents had no importance... they were nobodies. Every time Rey and Kylo get into a conversation about it, Kylo tells Rey that they were nobodies. When Rey gets the vision in the underwater cave, it tells her that the identity of her parents doesn't even matter. You got trolled by Jar Jar Abrams and Johnson with this storyline. We all did. (And if you know how Abrams mystery box works you shouldn't be surprised). This storyline is over! Don't volunteer to be a piñata victim to this any longer! As master Yoda said "Fear of loss and attachment is the path to the Darkside." 4. "Could (Rey) be a virgin birth (of the Force) like Anakin was?" -- Possibly. We will have to wait and see if Abrams intends any creative ideas to explain Rey's incredible affinity to the Force. But you also have to consider the possibility that it may never be explained. It just is (which is typical of the character archetype of Disney warrior princesses). Unfortunately, I fear you are correct in all your points. Which is a shame because there should be pay off. If the future of SW movies is "set up a question in one movie, and get no answer in the next" then what's the point? The audience is going to be disappointed after a while of that. Its already started.
You'll notice I didn't even bring up Phasma, a character who had rich potential back story and significance going forward. Again, a quick death. She falls into the the fine SW history of cool characters poorly used and then killed- Boba Fett, Darth Maul, Zam Wessell... we hardly knew ye
p.s. Good catch on the Luke quote. You're right. Also he said "He (kylo/Ben) must've thought I was dead..." Which suggests that in his haste Kylo may have also allowed others to survive. I like to think there are survivors and will show up at some point. That's me keeping hope alive. That was my initial theory for who Rey's parents were, other Jedi apprentices who survived that event.
When I first heard that Laura Dern and Benicio Del Toro were cast I was hoping they would be cast as Rey's parents. Instead they were cast as characters that were kind've unnecessary IMO. I personally would've gotten rid of the Del Toro character altogether, and given Dern's actions and lines to Fisher/Leia.
But what do I know?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 21, 2018 12:24:59 GMT
1. Will people keep paying for these shitty, non-canon McMarvel-lite movies in perpetuity?
2. Will Kathleen Kennedy ever be physically grabbed by armed guards and literally heaved out the door of Disney, with her fat ass smacking the street?
3. The Boba Fett movie; that will be surprisingly terrible, even for Disney. Won't it?
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 21, 2018 14:09:51 GMT
The Last Jedi was a letdown to a lot of fans partly because it didn't answer the questions set up by The Force Awakens. So, just for fun, lets compile a list of questions we would like answered in future movies.
I'll start...
What's Snoke's backstory? Who are the other Knights of Ren? What is "Ren"? Who were the other students Luke was teaching? Could any of them have survived? Whats going to happen with the Jedi Text? Whats going to happen with Leia? Who are Rey's parents? I know, I know. TLJ said they're nobody, but I still think Abrams or somebody can do better than that, even if they're not major players or Jedi or force users. Anybody would be better than nobody. Also, I think it could be made that Kylo was lying so Rey would feel compelled to come over to his side, though it didn't work. Could she be a virgin birth like Anakin was?
What else? Problem is JJ's mystery boxes would require a whole new prequel trilogy set between ROTJ & TFA to answer most of those I think. As it is they're playing instead with flashbacks to wedge those things in right now. Snoke, Rey's backstory, etc... TLJ portrayed they don't care, & if they don't, why should I? I'm beyond the days of reacting at mediocre backstories of beloved characters like Obi-Wan & Anakin... this bunch aren't even worthy yet. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 21, 2018 14:23:41 GMT
The Last Jedi was a letdown to a lot of fans partly because it didn't answer the questions set up by The Force Awakens. So, just for fun, lets compile a list of questions we would like answered in future movies.
I'll start...
What's Snoke's backstory? Who are the other Knights of Ren? What is "Ren"? Who were the other students Luke was teaching? Could any of them have survived? Whats going to happen with the Jedi Text? Whats going to happen with Leia? Who are Rey's parents? I know, I know. TLJ said they're nobody, but I still think Abrams or somebody can do better than that, even if they're not major players or Jedi or force users. Anybody would be better than nobody. Also, I think it could be made that Kylo was lying so Rey would feel compelled to come over to his side, though it didn't work. Could she be a virgin birth like Anakin was?
What else? Problem is JJ's mystery boxes would require a whole new prequel trilogy set between ROTJ & TFA to answer most of those I think. As it is they're playing instead with flashbacks to wedge those things in right now. Snoke, Rey's backstory, etc... TLJ portrayed they don't care, & if they don't, why should I? I'm beyond the days of reacting at mediocre backstories of beloved characters like Obi-Wan & Anakin... this bunch aren't even worthy yet. Not to regurgitate too much from this past winter... yet Rian Johnson & his apparent reasoning for throwing many of JJ's mystery boxes under the bus/over the side of the boat - was either they were bad & he did us all a favour &/or JJ never had any plans or reasons for any of them in the first place. Apparently Johnson's approach with JJ was 'So what does X, Y, & Z mean?' to which JJ would reply 'I've no idea, that's entirely up to you now'.
Essentially, Disney went full DCU on the fly with this instead of tried & true MCU approach of, you know, actually planning stuff out beforehand. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 21, 2018 14:32:39 GMT
Problem is JJ's mystery boxes would require a whole new prequel trilogy set between ROTJ & TFA to answer most of those I think. As it is they're playing instead with flashbacks to wedge those things in right now. Snoke, Rey's backstory, etc... TLJ portrayed they don't care, & if they don't, why should I? I'm beyond the days of reacting at mediocre backstories of beloved characters like Obi-Wan & Anakin... this bunch aren't even worthy yet. Not to regurgitate too much from this past winter... yet Rian Johnson & his apparent reasoning for throwing many of JJ's mystery boxes under the bus/over the side of the boat - was either they were bad & he did us all a favour &/or JJ never had any plans or reasons for any of them in the first place. Apparently Johnson's approach with JJ was 'So what does X, Y, & Z mean?' to which JJ would reply 'I've no idea, that's entirely up to you now'.
Essentially, Disney went full DCU on the fly with this instead of tried & true MCU approach of, you know, actually planning stuff out beforehand.
I know! Which is shocking, somewhat, because (a) they spent a ton of money on Star Wars and giving literally any fucks at all about storytelling would maximize their return on that investment, and (b) because -- like you rightly point out -- the MCU is nothing if not diciplined in terms of its planning/plotting and "long-term" approach to filmmaking. The Disney Star Wars stuff is stunningly shitty, to be honest. I consider even the so-called smash hit TFA to be an abysmal failure. I know, I know: "BUT COLDEN IT MADE 2 BILLION DOLLERZ!!!1" Yeah? Well, it should've made four billion -- and would have if it weren't literally greenlit without so much as a single idea scrawled onto the back of a cocktail napkin, to say nothing of, you know, a script. That piece of shit made the bare minimum any sequel to Return of the Jedi that had Harrison Ford in it was gonna make. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Apr 21, 2018 15:25:32 GMT
So no one has any other questions they would like answered in future SW movies? Any at all...
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 21, 2018 16:10:33 GMT
Here's my questions, mostly aimed at Disney/Lucasfilm:
1. Why did you refuse George Lucas planned trilogy?
2. Why did you remake episode 4 instead of doing a new/original story?
3. Why do you hate women? You're female characters have been poorly thought out, written and are uninteresting. I mean you literally have a female character who almost killed herself in a selfish act because she fell "in love" with a male character that she just met?
You have another one who, for whatever reason, tells no one of her planned that eventually leads to the death of hundreds, possibly thousands.
4. Why do you hate the original characters so much?
Let's check the list:
Han Solo is turned into a deadbeat father who abandons his family for whatever reason and is killed off without any funeral.
Luke Skywalker isolated himself from his family and friends and didn't care about any of them for whatever reason. And when he does return, he shows up as a force projection and fades away.
Leia is tossed aside for a dumbass admiral.
Ackbar is killed off without any sort of proper acknowledgement, despite being a fan favorite.
5. Why did you decanon the extended universe, despite it's popularity?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 21, 2018 16:31:39 GMT
Here's my questions, mostly aimed at Disney/Lucasfilm: 1. Why did you refuse George Lucas planned trilogy? 2. Why did you remake episode 4 instead of doing a new/original story? 3. Why do you hate women? You're female characters have been poorly thought out, written and are uninteresting. I mean you literally have a female character who almost killed herself in a selfish act because she fell "in love" with a male character that she just met? You have another one who, for whatever reason, tells no one of her planned that eventually leads to the death of hundreds, possibly thousands. 4. Why do you hate the original characters so much? Let's check the list: Han Solo is turned into a deadbeat father who abandons his family for whatever reason and is killed off without any funeral. Luke Skywalker isolated himself from his family and friends and didn't care about any of them for whatever reason. And when he does return, he shows up as a force projection and fades away. Leia is tossed aside for a dumbass admiral. Ackbar is killed off without any sort of proper acknowledgement, despite being a fan favorite. 5. Why did you decanon the extended universe, despite it's popularity? Amazing. Every word of what you just said... was dead-on. |
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Post by azzajones on Apr 22, 2018 8:36:57 GMT
What has become of Coruscant?
What has become of Wedge?
How did Poe survive & get back to the Resistance after crashing on Jakku?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 22, 2018 16:07:09 GMT
What has become of Coruscant? What has become of Wedge? How did Poe survive & get back to the Resistance after crashing on Jakku? I guarantee you we never get on-screen answers to the second two and prolly not the first either. |
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Post by hemlin on Apr 22, 2018 16:22:33 GMT
What has become of Coruscant? What has become of Wedge? How did Poe survive & get back to the Resistance after crashing on Jakku? I think a story currently running in the Poe Dameron Marvel comic is meant to clear up all the unanswered questions about his survival. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 22, 2018 16:46:09 GMT
I need a rewatch...but Will the green saber come into play? And how/where will it be uncovered? (It’s still unaccounted for, right?) ![]()  |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 22, 2018 18:35:16 GMT
What has become of Coruscant? What has become of Wedge? How did Poe survive & get back to the Resistance after crashing on Jakku? I guarantee you we never get on-screen answers to the second two and prolly not the first either. They actually answered that in a, get this, Lego Game. Lego The Force Awakens infact. I don't remember if it was DLC but there is a dlc that explains C3PO red Arm. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 22, 2018 18:36:44 GMT
I guarantee you we never get on-screen answers to the second two and prolly not the first either. They actually answered that in a, get this, Lego Game. Lego The Force Awakens infact. I don't remember if it was DLC but there is a dlc that explains C3PO red Arm. Oh, for the love of... |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 22, 2018 18:38:12 GMT
They actually answered that in a, get this, Lego Game. Lego The Force Awakens infact. I don't remember if it was DLC but there is a dlc that explains C3PO red Arm. Oh, for the love of... It's considered official Canon, at least according to Disney! XD |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 22, 2018 18:43:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 18:48:00 GMT
Aren't they named after Kylo Ren? |
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