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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 15:50:05 GMT
Name some films that get a bad reputation but you don't believe they deserve the hate.
- It could be critically panned films that you think got a bad rap.
- It could be a bad word of mouth film.
- It could be a Box Office Bomb.
1) I think a film that is critically panned that is criminally underrated by the so called 'experts' is "The Passion of the Christ" (2004) ... That film is a masterpiece of filmmaking. You don't have to be religious to see the 'acting', 'cinematography', the 'directing' the 'music' the 'emotional impact'. It's like moving art.
Rotten Tomatoes Score: 49%
2) I believe a film that is hated by fans and received bad word of mouth, giving it a bad reputation is "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith" (2005) I think it's unfairly lumped in with the dreaded 'prequel trilogy'. However, I find it vastly more interesting, innovative (as far as expanding the universe) and well rounded than "The Force Awakens". There are extreme highs, and deep emotional lows, there is great action and drama. I actually think it's the 3rd best Star Wars film behind (1. The Empire Strikes Back and 2. A New Hope). IMHO, it's better than Return of the Jedi. People only like that one because it has the original cast and the force ghost ending. Go back and watch how silly that ewok adventure turns.
3) And finally, a film that is a Box Office Bomb, but should have been a huge hit is "Hugo" (2011). This was an excellent film with lots of symbolism and fun adventure. It was released the same weekend as "The Muppets" and it never recovered from a slow start. It is in every way a much better film than "The Muppets" and most Family Adventure films. See, this is why we can't have good quality family films anymore, someone tries to make one (outside of a P.I.X.A.R. animated film) and no one goes to see it. But somehow movies like "Trolls" and "Angry Birds" bank. Then we get terrible 'kiddie' trash live action films with tons of toilet humor and cheap production budgets. "Hugo" looks like the type of films that have magic, imagination, wonder, excitement, fun, and what you think of when you think of 21st century technology.
Production Budget: $170M Dollars. Box Office: 73.8M Dollars
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Post by politicidal on Mar 14, 2017 16:50:25 GMT
1 and 2) Man of Steel. Even after the lukewarm reviews and vehemently negative word of mouth from fans, I saw it in theaters and really liked it;bought the DVD once it came out. It's not the Reeve films (ok the first two) but it's not the worst thing since the Phantom Menace or Transformers 2 or whatever people compare it to these days. I'll concede the nonlinear narrative is unnecessary but I liked the supporting cast, the action is some of the best superhero spectacle ever filmed, and for once I felt worried for Superman. One thing I think people forget when bashing the movie is that Clark Kent accepts his role as Superman by the end and looks forward to the future smiling at the camera. He went through hell but now the possibilities are endless or at least were until BVS fucked that up and sent him not only three steps back but KILLED him.
3) Sahara, the 2005 action/adventure movie based off the Dirk Pitt series by Clive Cussler. As far as 'dumb fun' popcorn films meant to be watched on a lazy afternoon, this is one of my favorites. I was shocked to learn later how massive of a box office flop it was. I remember seeing posters and trailers all over the place when it came out. The cast included Matthew McConaughey, Penelope Cruz, Steve Zahn, and a solid cast of character actors backing them up. It was a great throwback treasure hunt movie in the vein of Indiana Jones or Romancing the Stone. I just assumed it was a hit since everyone I mentioned it too liked it and it came out around the same time NATIONAL TREASURE did and that was a blockbuster success.
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Post by misternick on Mar 14, 2017 16:52:21 GMT
Little boys are afraid of this one for some reason. Not a great film, but not as bad as some would have you believe.  |
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Post by kingkoopa on Mar 14, 2017 18:06:07 GMT
3) Sahara, the 2005 action/adventure movie based off the Dirk Pitt series by Clive Cussler. As far as 'dumb fun' popcorn films meant to be watched on a lazy afternoon, this is one of my favorites. I was shocked to learn later how massive of a box office flop it was. I remember seeing posters and trailers all over the place when it came out. The cast included Matthew McConaughey, Penelope Cruz, Steve Zahn, and a solid cast of character actors backing them up. It was a great throwback treasure hunt movie in the vein of Indiana Jones or Romancing the Stone. I just assumed it was a hit since everyone I mentioned it too liked it and it came out around the same time NATIONAL TREASURE did and that was a blockbuster success. I don't understand how this movie didn't do better. My at-the-time girlfriend was really into Clive Cussler and wanted to see the movie, but was worried it might betray the book (we've all been there). I went to see it with her, me knowing nothing about Cussler or his Dirk Pitt character. No expectations for me, fingers crossed for her. We both came out really really impressed. A great ride-along adventure! I particularly agree with your comparison to "Romancing the Stone." I can't believe it wasn't a bigger hit...I found it a breath of fresh air to adventure films...and a cool story by Cussler. |
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Post by politicidal on Mar 14, 2017 18:10:33 GMT
3) Sahara, the 2005 action/adventure movie based off the Dirk Pitt series by Clive Cussler. As far as 'dumb fun' popcorn films meant to be watched on a lazy afternoon, this is one of my favorites. I was shocked to learn later how massive of a box office flop it was. I remember seeing posters and trailers all over the place when it came out. The cast included Matthew McConaughey, Penelope Cruz, Steve Zahn, and a solid cast of character actors backing them up. It was a great throwback treasure hunt movie in the vein of Indiana Jones or Romancing the Stone. I just assumed it was a hit since everyone I mentioned it too liked it and it came out around the same time NATIONAL TREASURE did and that was a blockbuster success. I don't understand how this movie didn't do better. My at-the-time girlfriend was really into Clive Cussler and wanted to see the movie, but was worried it might betray the book (we've all been there). I went to see it with her, me knowing nothing about Cussler or his Dirk Pitt character. No expectations for me, fingers crossed for her. We both came out really really impressed. A great ride-along adventure! I particularly agree with your comparison to "Romancing the Stone." I can't believe it wasn't a bigger hit...I found it a breath of fresh air to adventure films...and a cool story by Cussler. My grandfather got me into Clive Cussler and I'm still a big fan. Honestly, I found the movie better than the book which got pretty convoluted even for its genre. I just did some five second internet research and apparently the bean counters ballooned the budget exorbitantly and even some bribery happened while they filmed overseas. Shame because this could have easily been a new film franchise a la Indiana Jones or The Mummy movies. |
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Post by poelzig on Mar 14, 2017 18:10:55 GMT
Little boys are afraid of this one for some reason. Not a great film, but not as bad as some would have you believe. Creepy adults that inappropriately hang out with little boys seem to like it though. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Mar 14, 2017 18:32:15 GMT
Super Mario Bros.
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Post by fangirl1975 on Mar 14, 2017 18:38:45 GMT
Man Of Steel- Russell Crowe as Jor- El sold me on this one. Plus Henry Cavill is smokin' hot  The Man From U.N.C.L.E.- harmless popcorn fun  The A-Team- Saw this at a drive-in. It was a serviceable adaptation of the TV series The Black Dahlia- I thought it was a solid neo- noir. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 14, 2017 18:41:34 GMT
Speed Racer - This is somewhere in my top 25
Tomorrowland - Besides the ending, this was top notch Brad Bird action and humor.
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I Am Legend - The ending was fine
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Post by ck100 on Mar 14, 2017 18:45:11 GMT
Ghostbusters 2016
Star Wars prequels
The Hobbit Trilogy
Avatar
Titanic
Prometheus
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Post by kingkoopa on Mar 14, 2017 18:54:49 GMT
YES! I don't understand how this movie didn't do better. My at-the-time girlfriend was really into Clive Cussler and wanted to see the movie, but was worried it might betray the book (we've all been there). I went to see it with her, me knowing nothing about Cussler or his Dirk Pitt character. No expectations for me, fingers crossed for her. We both came out really really impressed. A great ride-along adventure! I particularly agree with your comparison to "Romancing the Stone." I can't believe it wasn't a bigger hit...I found it a breath of fresh air to adventure films...and a cool story by Cussler. My grandfather got me into Clive Cussler and I'm still a big fan. Honestly, I found the movie better than the book which got pretty convoluted even for its genre. I just did some five second internet research and apparently the bean counters ballooned the budget exorbitantly and even some bribery happened while they filmed overseas. Shame because this could have easily been a new film franchise a la Indiana Jones or The Mummy movies. Yea, I would definitely have been interested in seeing Dirk Pitt in another story. Not a totally direct sequel, but the kind of 'new quest' you saw with Indiana Jones. I read more Cussler after seeing "Sahara" and found him to be a bit like Tom Clancy (who's work I was browsing, checking it out, at the time...liked it), but with an extra bit of lightheartedness. Dug him and would look forward to seeing more of his work adapted to film. |
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Post by kingkoopa on Mar 14, 2017 19:00:15 GMT
This movie got too much hate. It wasn't perfect, but it swung for the fences. On the haunches of a really popular franchise that is nearly impossible to adapt to live action. If anyone has an idea how to pull this off, I'd love to know...I think a visually faithful adaptation would end up looking like 'The Nightman Cometh' (an amateur musical put on in an episode of the best show currently on TV, "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"). Super Mario Bros was criticized from deviating too much from the games. The irony is that it did exactly what we all did on the later levels. Hold your breath, run, jump into something weird, hope you make it out alive. I had issues with SMB, but it was fun. Fungus/man hybrid made my skin crawl though... |
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Post by mrbeale on Mar 14, 2017 19:09:55 GMT
The Star Wars prequels
The live action Dr. Seuss adaptations (The Grinch and The Cat in the Hat)
1941
Scary Movie 3
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 19:13:21 GMT
You know most movies that people seem to hate are really not that bad. There are actually very few movies that are actually bad. Most movies are about average.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 14, 2017 19:29:41 GMT
Little boys are afraid of this one for some reason. Not a great film, but not as bad as some would have you believe. I'll tell you why I hate it and it has nothing to do with the fact that they are females. It has to do with the movie's extreme laziness. All of the characters are the Bill Murray character except none of the humor or delivery of the dialogue is even funny. The film has worse cgi than the original, the villain is one of the worst in recent memory, the movie is way too self aware and the characters have zero chemistry. This movie deserves the same amount of hatred that the new Vacation gets and deserves except that movie can't use the same lazy defense that Ghostbusters does. Granted, many men do hate the movie simply because they are females but I am not one of those men. It made the usually funny Wiig and McKinnon completely unfunny and cringe-inducing and well, McCarthy and Jones aren't funny in general. Another difference is that I think all of Paul Feig's movies are crap, with the exception of Bridesmaids. The reason the original and even part II work so well also is because the movie's have build up and atmosphere and the ghosts are actually creepy. This movie has none of that. |
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 14, 2017 19:36:34 GMT
This movie got too much hate. It wasn't perfect, but it swung for the fences. On the haunches of a really popular franchise that is nearly impossible to adapt to live action. If anyone has an idea how to pull this off, I'd love to know...I think a visually faithful adaptation would end up looking like 'The Nightman Cometh' (an amateur musical put on in an episode of the best show currently on TV, "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"). Super Mario Bros was criticized from deviating too much from the games. The irony is that it did exactly what we all did on the later levels. Hold your breath, run, jump into something weird, hope you make it out alive. I had issues with SMB, but it was fun. Fungus/man hybrid made my skin crawl though... They could have at least made the Mario Bros. the same race LOL.
They shouldn't have made a live-action movie at all and there really is no way to make a good live-action version of the game but they could have tried a little harder. I mean they could have made Hopper at least look like a reptile and tried to make the movie resemble the world of the game a little bit instead of making it look like a generic Blade Runner.
You are entitled to your opinion but this movie isn't even so bad it's good, it's just plain AWFUL.
At least Street Fighter is bad in an entertaining way.
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Post by kingkoopa on Mar 14, 2017 19:46:59 GMT
This movie got too much hate. It wasn't perfect, but it swung for the fences. On the haunches of a really popular franchise that is nearly impossible to adapt to live action. If anyone has an idea how to pull this off, I'd love to know...I think a visually faithful adaptation would end up looking like 'The Nightman Cometh' (an amateur musical put on in an episode of the best show currently on TV, "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"). Super Mario Bros was criticized from deviating too much from the games. The irony is that it did exactly what we all did on the later levels. Hold your breath, run, jump into something weird, hope you make it out alive. I had issues with SMB, but it was fun. Fungus/man hybrid made my skin crawl though... They could have at least made the Mario Bros. the same race LOL.
They shouldn't have made a live-action movie at all and there really is no way to make a good live-action version of the game but they could have tried a little harder. I mean they could have made Hopper at least look like a reptile and tried to make the movie resemble the world of the game a little bit instead of making it look like a generic Blade Runner.
You are entitled to your opinion but this movie isn't even so bad it's good, it's just plain AWFUL.
At least Street Fighter is bad in an entertaining way.
I did find it 'so bad, its good.' Too dumb to be taken seriously, but a fun ride. I agree on Dennis Hopper being too human. The world is not the same without a dinosaur-version of Hopper, and we're worse off for it. The whole environment of the Super Mario Bros movie is so bizarre (some of the casting too), I can take a couple puffs and have some fun with it. "Doom" seemed like it played it closer to the vest and didn't take any chances, and I've already forgotten it. Loving both franchises since I was a kid, I wanted a Mario movie and a Doom movie. Shame only one was memorable, even if it was kind of a weird three-legged dog. I found it similar, in appeal, to "Street Fighter" (which I also enjoyed, despite it taking a few liberties with its license). Thrilled me in the same way as SMB, and disappointed me in the same way. Blanka never got his time to shine! "Mortal Kombat" and "Silent Hill" hit it closest to the pin in my book, when it comes to video game adaptations. "Resident Evil" was weird and didn't feel anything like the game...kinda like "SMB" and "Street Fighter." I like stupid fun when I get a minute off...pretty much all of the above fits into that for me. To each their own. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 21:09:15 GMT
10,000 BC--Despite problems with the timeline, this was not a bad film. The acting was a bit cheesy, but it was a great adventure film in an interesting setting. I love the prehistoric era, so the mammoths and sabre-toothed cat sold me. I know I love it more than it actually deserves, but it doesn't deserve the hate it gets.
Showgirls --What's not to love about this kind of high-end trash?
I also second Ghostbusters 2016. I thought it was great, and I'm disappointed it won't get the sequel that it alluded to in the post credit scene.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 21:14:18 GMT
1941
Eyes Wide Shut
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 21:29:59 GMT
Good call. I never think of Eyes Wide Shut as being a bomb, it's just too good! |
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