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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 1:00:09 GMT
Overall, I dug it a lot too . Its not without its faults though but I did admire how the Russo bros juggled all those characters to give them good amount of screen time (and a lot of interactions between them were gold) . I give it a solid 8/10 .
Oh and Thanos was actually great . I've been critical of the MCU villains in the past but they nailed it with this one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 12:19:45 GMT
Saturated, mind numbing, overbearing.
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Post by outrider127 on Apr 28, 2018 14:49:11 GMT
Infinity War ranked 9th on IMDB's top 250 movies, Black Panther is ranked like 300 lol, the people have spoken
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Post by Nora on Apr 28, 2018 16:34:54 GMT
I thought it was an interesting take on the issue of slavery and abuse. I do feel like Banner IS abusing Hulk a bit at times. No?
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Post by mecano04 on Apr 28, 2018 20:50:39 GMT
I thought it was an interesting take on the issue of slavery and abuse. I do feel like Banner IS abusing Hulk a bit at times. No? Yes, he ask him to go back or to come forth depending on the situation then blames him for doing it or not or if he take the initiative. It's true that it might feel like slavery but his case is more like Jekyll & Hyde in the sense that it's 2 entities sharing the "same" body/host. Banner (and others) asking Hulk to come out to do the dirty work might indeed be seen as some kind of slavery. That's where Hulk is different than Wolverine (at least from the comics) and why I (and probably many people) really like Wolverine.. Hulk is the guy others bring to the fight hoping he will do the dirty work but at times he doesn't feel like it so it creates a problem. Wolverine fully knows why he is brought and fully assume that doing the dirty work is his part. He may not always like it but he always do it.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Apr 28, 2018 20:56:01 GMT
Infinity War ranked 9th on IMDB's top 250 movies, Black Panther is ranked like 300 lol, the people have spoken Why do you hate black people?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 22:13:28 GMT
It was good, but the ending kind of sucked. It seemed more like an ending of an episode of a TV show, LOST is a great example, rather than being the ending of a movie.
It just wasn't exciting and if you're going to end on a cliffhanger, don't make it end in a way that you know, at the very least 80% of it, will be reversed in the next one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 1:22:58 GMT
Saw it today, I liked it. Maybe an 8 out of 10.
Two things I thought nagged at me. One is that Thanos was overpowered. It never felt like there was any real threat to him from anybody, or even from everybody put together. It's like watching two and a half hours of a bodybuilder beating up a bunch of toddlers.
And the other... well. The ending would be amazing, except that it's so obvious that the next movie is just going to walk it back. Technically that's going to be a flaw of the next film rather than this one, so it feels a bit nitpicky to say it here. And yet it kind of highlights that this movie is a very packaged corporate commercial product, and as such there's no way it is going to wipe out revenue streams for the company in order to have a movie with some integrity to it. So my reaction to the ending was more or less "Wow, that would be such an amazing turn if they were serious about it. it's a pity that they're not."
But for all that, I was entertained. So yay.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 1, 2018 19:30:24 GMT
My review and rating for Infinity War Pros: 1. It took 19 movies, but for the 1st time ever MCU finally has a villain who isn't awful or lame. A "former" MCU fan (who has been invited to never come back to this forum) used to say MCU is better than DC because MCU always makes the heroes the main character while DC makes the villain the main character. Well, Infinity War takes a page out of DC's playbook and makes the villain the main character and it's the 1st time in 19 movies that the villain of an MCU movie isn't awful or lame. 2. Loki repeating Tony Stark's line from the 1st Avengers movie ("We have a Hulk") and then Thanos proceeding to give Hulk such a severe beatdown that Hulk turned into a 1000-pound coward and was too scared to show up for the rest of the movie. 3. Loki finally getting killed. Loki ("I'm evil because I was adopted and Daddy Odin loved Thor more than me") has always been an awful, lame, and useless villain. Cons: 1. This movie was a big mess, constantly jumping all over the place from 1 location to another. 2. Drax claiming to be "invisible". Stupid scene that added nothing to the movie. 3. MCU ripping off The Illiad with Thanos sacrificing his daughter to get the soul stone. 4. Too many MCU characters were ready and willing to put half the universe at risk for their own selfish needs: a. Starlord - threw a hissy fit and helped Thanos to break free b. Doctor Strange - gave Thanos the time stone (which Thanos used to reverse time and get the mind stone from Vision's forehead later) just to save Iron Man and sacrifice half the universe; also knew which of the 14 million possible paths was the only path to defeat Thanos but took that secret to the grave and let Thanos kill half the universe rather than tell anyone else the winning path (MCU fans made the dumb excuse that telling others the winning path would bias their decisions. Of course, it's supposed to bias their decisions - so they can make the right decisions to defeat Thanos! If you're given the correct answers to a test BEFORE the test, of course you're going to write down those correct answers when you take the test. Who would be so stupid to NOT write down the correct answers if they're given the correct answers BEFORE the test?) c. Scarlet Witch - made an entire country fight Thanos just so she can keep her robot sex toy 5. Spider-Sense not working properly again as Spider-Man gets ambished and taken hostage by a guy with no superpowers. 6. An ending that will probably be reversed in Avengers 4, resulting in this movie having no stakes and basically being a waste of 2 and 1/2 hours since 90% of what happened in this movie will have been reversed in Avengers 4. Also, why is there even a need for Avengers 4? If Strange can use the time stone to see how to defeat Thanos, then Thanos should be able to do the same thing and see which is the only possible way he could be defeated and prevent that from ever happening. So it should now be impossible to defeat Thanos and there's no need for an Avengers 4 since it's now impossible for the Avengers to win.Rating: My ratings for movies and TV shows are always fair and objective and without any bias. Currently, 8 voters have rated Infinity War a zero out of 10 here: Rate AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR (2018). But despite the many flaws, I don't think Infinity War was as awful as most of MCU's other movies, especially the recent ones which have been really awful (e.g. Civil War, Doctor Strange, GotG2, SMH, Ragnarok, and Black Panther). So I'll rate Infinity War a 4 out of 10.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 1:38:02 GMT
My review and rating for Infinity War Cons: b. Doctor Strange - gave Thanos the time stone (which Thanos used to reverse time and get the mind stone from Vision's forehead later) just to save Iron Man and sacrifice half the universe; also knew which of the 14 million possible paths was the only path to defeat Thanos but took that secret to the grave and let Thanos kill half the universe rather than tell anyone else the winning path (MCU fans made the dumb excuse that telling others the winning path would bias their decisions. Of course, it's supposed to bias their decisions - so they can make the right decisions to defeat Thanos! If you're given the correct answers to a test BEFORE the test, of course you're going to write down those correct answers when you take the test. Who would be so stupid to NOT write down the correct answers if they're given the correct answers BEFORE the test?) Dr. Strange said that there was only 1 possibility out of the million visions he had that worked. Did you ever think that maybe he gave Thanos the stone because him doing that was in the vision he saw that worked?
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Post by DC-Fan on May 2, 2018 1:53:55 GMT
My review and rating for Infinity War Cons: b. Doctor Strange - gave Thanos the time stone (which Thanos used to reverse time and get the mind stone from Vision's forehead later) just to save Iron Man and sacrifice half the universe; also knew which of the 14 million possible paths was the only path to defeat Thanos but took that secret to the grave and let Thanos kill half the universe rather than tell anyone else the winning path (MCU fans made the dumb excuse that telling others the winning path would bias their decisions. Of course, it's supposed to bias their decisions - so they can make the right decisions to defeat Thanos! If you're given the correct answers to a test BEFORE the test, of course you're going to write down those correct answers when you take the test. Who would be so stupid to NOT write down the correct answers if they're given the correct answers BEFORE the test?) Dr. Strange said that there was only 1 possibility out of the million visions he had that worked. Did you ever think that maybe he gave Thanos the stone because him doing that was in the vision he saw that worked? 1st, if that's the only winning possibility, then the writing really was awful. Because it the only winning possibility (as Doctor Strange claimed) was to give the time stone to Thanos, then why not give Thanos the time stone immediately when they first see Thanos. Why try to fight Thanos and take the gauntlet off Thanos' hand before giving the time stone to Thanos? What if Starlord hadn't acted like such a dick and they had succeeded in getting the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and never gave the time stone to Thanos? Is Doctor Strange saying that would result in a losing scenario? If that would result in a losing scenario, then why risk trying to get the gauntlet off Thanos hand when Strange knows that's a losing scenario? 2nd, Doctor Strange lied about that being the only winning possibility. After Thor hit Thanos in the ribs with the axe, Thanos told THor that he should've gone for the head. So if THor had gone for Thanos' head and chopped off Thanos' head, then that would've also been a winning scenario. So either Doctor Strange lied about there being only 1 winning possibility, OR the writing was just really awful.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 5:32:25 GMT
Dr. Strange said that there was only 1 possibility out of the million visions he had that worked. Did you ever think that maybe he gave Thanos the stone because him doing that was in the vision he saw that worked? 1st, if that's the only winning possibility, then the writing really was awful. Because it the only winning possibility (as Doctor Strange claimed) was to give the time stone to Thanos, then why not give Thanos the time stone immediately when they first see Thanos. Why try to fight Thanos and take the gauntlet off Thanos' hand before giving the time stone to Thanos? What if Starlord hadn't acted like such a dick and they had succeeded in getting the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and never gave the time stone to Thanos? Is Doctor Strange saying that would result in a losing scenario? If that would result in a losing scenario, then why risk trying to get the gauntlet off Thanos hand when Strange knows that's a losing scenario? 2nd, Doctor Strange lied about that being the only winning possibility. After Thor hit Thanos in the ribs with the axe, Thanos told THor that he should've gone for the head. So if THor had gone for Thanos' head and chopped off Thanos' head, then that would've also been a winning scenario. So either Doctor Strange lied about there being only 1 winning possibility, OR the writing was just really awful. I wasn't really a fan of the movie, but what you said about Thor hitting Thanos in the head rather than in the chest is pointless to say because Thor didn't know about all the possibilities of what would and wouldn't stop Thanos.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 2, 2018 6:05:42 GMT
1st, if that's the only winning possibility, then the writing really was awful. Because it the only winning possibility (as Doctor Strange claimed) was to give the time stone to Thanos, then why not give Thanos the time stone immediately when they first see Thanos. Why try to fight Thanos and take the gauntlet off Thanos' hand before giving the time stone to Thanos? What if Starlord hadn't acted like such a dick and they had succeeded in getting the gauntlet off Thanos' hand and never gave the time stone to Thanos? Is Doctor Strange saying that would result in a losing scenario? If that would result in a losing scenario, then why risk trying to get the gauntlet off Thanos hand when Strange knows that's a losing scenario? 2nd, Doctor Strange lied about that being the only winning possibility. After Thor hit Thanos in the ribs with the axe, Thanos told THor that he should've gone for the head. So if THor had gone for Thanos' head and chopped off Thanos' head, then that would've also been a winning scenario. So either Doctor Strange lied about there being only 1 winning possibility, OR the writing was just really awful. I wasn't really a fan of the movie, but what you said about Thor hitting Thanos in the head rather than in the chest is pointless to say because Thor didn't know about all the possibilities of what would and wouldn't stop Thanos. No, you missed the point completely. It isn't about what Thor knew or didn't know. It's about Doctor Strange lying. Strange claimed that there was only 1 way to defeat Thanos. But if Thor had hit Thanos in the head (whether intentionally or unknowingly by accident) instead of the ribs, then that would've also resulted in a winning scenario. So there was in fact more than 1 winning scenario. Moreover, there was another way to defeat Thanos without giving Thanos the time stone. Thanos didn't know where the soul stone was, but Gamora did. Doctor Strange claimed he saw all 14 million scenarios so he would've seen the scenari where Thanos tortured Nebula to get Gamora to tell him where the soul stone was. So all Doctor Strange had to do to prevent Gamora from telling Thanos the location of the soul stone was simply kill Gamora BEFORE Thanos arrived. Gamora wanted Quill to kill her so she couldn't tell Thanos the location of the soul stone. So she was willing to die to prevent Thanos from getting the soul stone so it shouldn't matter whether Quill kills her or Doctor Strange kills her. Killing her BEFORE Thanos arrived would've prevented Thanos from finding the location of the soul stone and would've saved half the universe. So there were multiple winning scenarios. That means either Doctor Strange lied OR it was just really bad writing in Infinity War.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 6:41:10 GMT
I wasn't really a fan of the movie, but what you said about Thor hitting Thanos in the head rather than in the chest is pointless to say because Thor didn't know about all the possibilities of what would and wouldn't stop Thanos. "No, you missed the point completely. It isn't about what Thor knew or didn't know. It's about Doctor Strange lying. Strange claimed that there was only 1 way to defeat Thanos. But if Thor had hit Thanos in the head (whether intentionally or unknowingly by accident) instead of the ribs, then that would've also resulted in a winning scenario. So there was in fact more than 1 winning scenario."No I didn't because Strange obviously saw that Thor wouldn't, didn't do that. Strange saw that Thor would never hit Thanos in the head. Thor hitting Thanos in the head wasn't something that came up in his visions because it never happened and would never happen. How are you not getting that? "Moreover, there was another way to defeat Thanos without giving Thanos the time stone. Thanos didn't know where the soul stone was, but Gamora did. Doctor Strange claimed he saw all 14 million scenarios so he would've seen the scenari where Thanos tortured Nebula to get Gamora to tell him where the soul stone was. So all Doctor Strange had to do to prevent Gamora from telling Thanos the location of the soul stone was simply kill Gamora BEFORE Thanos arrived."
Strange never saw the possibilities, visions, before Gamora was killed though. So therefore what you said doesn't fit into the movie at all. "Gamora wanted Quill to kill her so she couldn't tell Thanos the location of the soul stone. So she was willing to die to prevent Thanos from getting the soul stone so it shouldn't matter whether Quill kills her or Doctor Strange kills her. Killing her BEFORE Thanos arrived would've prevented Thanos from finding the location of the soul stone and would've saved half the universe."Once again, Gamora died before Strange saw all the possibilities of what could and couldn't stop Thanos. So what you said plays no affect on the movie. "So there were multiple winning scenarios. That means either Doctor Strange lied OR it was just really bad writing in Infinity War."For the third time, Strange didn't see the only winning scenario until after Gamora died. THE THINGS YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT RIGHT HERE MAKE NO SENSE BECAUSE YOUR TIMELINE, AND ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT IT, IS ALL OUT OF WHACK.
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Post by sostie on May 2, 2018 10:32:38 GMT
THE THINGS YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT RIGHT HERE MAKE NO SENSE BECAUSE YOUR TIMELINE, AND ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT IT, IS ALL OUT OF WHACK. This is nothing new. He's a vehment MCU hater who admits he only watches the films on online cam recordings, though this is not the first time his recollection of events in an MCU film makes you think he gathers his knowledge purely from other peoples posts.
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Post by Nora on May 2, 2018 12:28:56 GMT
My review and rating for Infinity War Pros: 1. It took 19 movies, but for the 1st time ever MCU finally has a villain who isn't awful or lame. A "former" MCU fan (who has been invited to never come back to this forum) used to say MCU is better than DC because MCU always makes the heroes the main character while DC makes the villain the main character. Well, Infinity War takes a page out of DC's playbook and makes the villain the main character and it's the 1st time in 19 movies that the villain of an MCU movie isn't awful or lame. 2. Loki repeating Tony Stark's line from the 1st Avengers movie ("We have a Hulk") and then Thanos proceeding to give Hulk such a severe beatdown that Hulk turned into a 1000-pound coward and was too scared to show up for the rest of the movie. 3. Loki finally getting killed. Loki ("I'm evil because I was adopted and Daddy Odin loved Thor more than me") has always been an awful, lame, and useless villain. Cons: 1. This movie was a big mess, constantly jumping all over the place from 1 location to another. 2. Drax claiming to be "invisible". Stupid scene that added nothing to the movie. 3. MCU ripping off The Illiad with Thanos sacrificing his daughter to get the soul stone. 4. Too many MCU characters were ready and willing to put half the universe at risk for their own selfish needs: a. Starlord - threw a hissy fit and helped Thanos to break free b. Doctor Strange - gave Thanos the time stone (which Thanos used to reverse time and get the mind stone from Vision's forehead later) just to save Iron Man and sacrifice half the universe; also knew which of the 14 million possible paths was the only path to defeat Thanos but took that secret to the grave and let Thanos kill half the universe rather than tell anyone else the winning path (MCU fans made the dumb excuse that telling others the winning path would bias their decisions. Of course, it's supposed to bias their decisions - so they can make the right decisions to defeat Thanos! If you're given the correct answers to a test BEFORE the test, of course you're going to write down those correct answers when you take the test. Who would be so stupid to NOT write down the correct answers if they're given the correct answers BEFORE the test?) c. Scarlet Witch - made an entire country fight Thanos just so she can keep her robot sex toy 5. Spider-Sense not working properly again as Spider-Man gets ambished and taken hostage by a guy with no superpowers. 6. An ending that will probably be reversed in Avengers 4, resulting in this movie having no stakes and basically being a waste of 2 and 1/2 hours since 90% of what happened in this movie will have been reversed in Avengers 4. Also, why is there even a need for Avengers 4? If Strange can use the time stone to see how to defeat Thanos, then Thanos should be able to do the same thing and see which is the only possible way he could be defeated and prevent that from ever happening. So it should now be impossible to defeat Thanos and there's no need for an Avengers 4 since it's now impossible for the Avengers to win.Rating: My ratings for movies and TV shows are always fair and objective and without any bias. Currently, 8 voters have rated Infinity War a zero out of 10 here: Rate AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR (2018). But despite the many flaws, I don't think Infinity War was as awful as most of MCU's other movies, especially the recent ones which have been really awful (e.g. Civil War, Doctor Strange, GotG2, SMH, Ragnarok, and Black Panther). So I'll rate Infinity War a 4 out of 10. i agree about the cons. i couldnt believe how many times they repeated the superheroes being totally selfish. and you forget Gamora giving up the location to save her sister. and i also dont like the fact this movie will have to be reversed. such a "cheap" trick. I wouldnt rate it as low as you, currently between 6-7. PS: Long Live Loki … you know he will be back, rite?
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Post by sostie on May 2, 2018 12:50:19 GMT
I wasn't really a fan of the movie, but what you said about Thor hitting Thanos in the head rather than in the chest is pointless to say because Thor didn't know about all the possibilities of what would and wouldn't stop Thanos. That means either Doctor Strange lied OR it was just really bad writing in Infinity War. And yet when in Wonder Woman a sail boat pilots itself from Turkey to London overnight, undetected through patrolled seas (yet strangely can't make it's way up the Thames unassisted), you say it's because it's a Magic Boat, as opposed to "bad writing"
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 21:11:40 GMT
THE joke is that there are no stakes and the serious attempts to do so become laughable to most people. Any character can and will be brought back for franchising dollars with some super gadget, such as shifting time, time stones or some other rubbish. These movies are best served when they don’t take themselves seriously.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on May 2, 2018 21:34:23 GMT
Couldnt Thanos have used the stones to make enough food and space for everyone?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 12:59:06 GMT
Couldnt Thanos have used the stones to make enough food and space for everyone? he's not jesus
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