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Post by Father Jack on Apr 24, 2018 9:37:50 GMT
Nice to see the FA putting the game further out of reach of ordinary fans, and making showcase matches the preserve of the prawn sandwich brigade😡 Except Category D tickets, which are somewhere out in the car park.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 9:52:21 GMT
Yeah, it's a bit bad for the loyal fans who go every week and already forked out a fortune that they could barely afford.
It's not that bad though if it was the only game you saw this season. I bet they could actually charge a lot more and get away with it. (Mind you, if it was your first game of the season you'd probably have to pay through the nose from a ticket tout).
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Post by Father Jack on Apr 24, 2018 10:02:04 GMT
That's the problem isn't it. They know they can practically charge whatever they want for a game like this, and it will always sell out.
No thought for the ordinary fans struggling on things like minimum wage, and/or benefits, who try and go support football week in week out.
Ticket price, travel cost, extortionate parking (think it's about £30), £6+ a pint, expensive food and merch. It's out of the reach of your average individual fan, never mind making it a family day out.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 11:37:15 GMT
That's the problem isn't it. They know they can practically charge whatever they want for a game like this, and it will always sell out. No thought for the ordinary fans struggling on things like minimum wage, and/or benefits, who try and go support football week in week out. Ticket price, travel cost, extortionate parking (think it's about £30), £6+ a pint, expensive food and merch. It's out of the reach of your average individual fan, never mind making it a family day out. Everything is a complete rip-off at Wembley. I used to go there with some school friends in the mid-90s to watch England in the Terry Venables era, didn't used to pay a penny, jumped the tube there and back, Old Wembley was quite an easy stadium to get into, then negotiate past one or two stewards once you are in there (just point to a a school trip if they ask to see your ticket, or point to some bloke on his own and say he's your dad). Was never a sell out anyway. Getting in was more fun than the actual matches. Euro 96 was a different matter though, we were getting pretty adept by now at getting in, but as we were making our way down Wembley Way for England's opening match (against Switzerland I think), I could see a sea of stewards in florescent vests and I knew straight away "this is gonna be a problem". A couple of my mates managed to get in but got turfed straight out, gave up in the end, and missed the first half, maybe if we'd persisted a bit longer after KO might have got in, but we didn't want to miss the match completely so made our way back to a friends to watch it on TV. Probably much harder now at New Wembley, I don't know, never been.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Apr 24, 2018 11:47:07 GMT
Re sporting events in the U.S., unless you're a season ticket holder, it's going to be almost impossible to get tickets anywhere but the second-hand market a la StubHub and the like, and buying tickets that way, you're not even going to get into the building--forget about having a decent seat (it might not even be a set--it might be standing room only), for under $1,000 . . . and if we're talking about the Super Bowl, make that more like $3,000. So a top-tier ticket for £145 for finals sounds cheap to me. It's not unusual for me to have to pay the Category C price per ticket for just a regular season game against a crappy opponent, for decent but not great seats.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Apr 24, 2018 11:53:06 GMT
If you want seats in the best area for the New York Yankees tonight--it's the beginning of the season, they're playing the Twins, which isn't a very posh match-up, and the weather is still crappy, you're going to be cold sitting there right now, and of course this is a weeknight game that could go late (it's baseball, it could always go late)--all factors that make this a relatively cheap game--it would cost you $350.
Of course, you can get in the building for $8, but those are bleacher seats.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 11:53:26 GMT
Re sporting events in the U.S., unless you're a season ticket holder, it's going to be almost impossible to get tickets anywhere but the second-hand market a la StubHub and the like, and buying tickets that way, you're not even going to get into the building--forget about having a decent seat (it might not even be a set--it might be standing room only), for under $1,000 . . . and if we're talking about the Super Bowl, make that more like $3,000. So a top-tier ticket for £145 for finals sounds cheap to me. It's not unusual for me to have to pay the Category C price per ticket for just a regular season game against a crappy opponent, for decent but not great seats. Yeah, you get a raw deal in America. PPV;s for boxing events are normally $100 aren't they? And the boxers themselves can make a lot more money selling out a 10,000 seater arena in Vegas than they can selling out a 90,000 seater stadium in London, such are the price discrepancies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 13:00:13 GMT
If you want seats in the best area for the New York Yankees tonight--it's the beginning of the season, they're playing the Twins, which isn't a very posh match-up, and the weather is still crappy, you're going to be cold sitting there right now, and of course this is a weeknight game that could go late (it's baseball, it could always go late)--all factors that make this a relatively cheap game--it would cost you $350. Of course, you can get in the building for $8, but those are bleacher seats. Is that just one day? $350? And don't they play 6 times a week? So if you were inclined to go every day $2100 a week. I guess not many people go every day? Maybe Father Jack should change the thread title to "FA Cup Final bargain ticket price bonanza"
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Post by Terrapin Station on Apr 24, 2018 14:12:11 GMT
If you want seats in the best area for the New York Yankees tonight--it's the beginning of the season, they're playing the Twins, which isn't a very posh match-up, and the weather is still crappy, you're going to be cold sitting there right now, and of course this is a weeknight game that could go late (it's baseball, it could always go late)--all factors that make this a relatively cheap game--it would cost you $350. Of course, you can get in the building for $8, but those are bleacher seats. Is that just one day? $350? And don't they play 6 times a week? So if you were inclined to go every day $2100 a week. I guess not many people go every day? Maybe Father Jack should change the thread title to "FA Cup Final bargain ticket price bonanza" Yeah, that's just one day, and that's a cheap game. Seats for the first rows--like the first 15-20 rows, for the upcoming Thursday night game against the Red Sox are in the neighborhood of $800-1000. That's just one, early season, weeknight game. The Red Sox are the Yankees' big rival, though. Of course, most folks are not going to sit in those first rows--they can't afford to. If I were going to that Red Sox game I'd be in the upper decks behind home plate. Tickets in the upper deck behind home plate for that game are around $40. Usually I like to sit a bit lower than that, but moving one section lower for that game makes the tickets at least twice as much for seats that are anywhere near the infield. And then there are "service fees" above that, so an $80 ticket is actually going to wind up costing you over $100 once you add in all the fees. Season tickets in the first rows for most baseball teams are in the neighborhood of $50,000 or more--that's for 81 home games. Season tickets for the other sports are not quite that high because they don't have as many games, but season tickets for the first rows for hockey and basketball (both 41 games) are probably going to be at least $25-30,000. The amazing thing is that there's no shortage of people paying those sorts of prices. I go to quite a few games, but I try to keep my costs in the neighborhood of $60 per ticket (or less of course). I can go to plenty of games that way, and I wind up with decent seats--nowhere near the players usually, but for watching the gameplay, I usually prefer seats that are a bit further away/higher up anyway--I can get a better overview of the field/court/etc. Occasionally I get lucky and score tickets for $30 or whatever and/or that are pretty close to the players--which is a worthwhile experience even if I can't see the overall gameplay as well. But you have to really hunt for games/tickets that cheap here. And yeah, you can get in to most stadiums/arenas on a much tighter budget, at least for regular season games, but for me, it's not worth it to go to a game with a $10-15 ticket. The seat is going to be in the outfield (for baseball), and/or in the upper rows of the nosebleeds at some weird angle, etc. and I just can't see the game good enough. I'd rather watch the game at home where I can see what's going on.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Apr 24, 2018 14:21:00 GMT
I don't know exactly what it works out to, but I also pay in the neighborhood of $1000 or so per year to watch all of my teams' games on TV--that's on top of my normal cable bill.
If you were a fan of the teams where you happen to live, and you only want to see their games, you wouldn't have to pay anything extra. But my #1 teams are the Miami teams, and I live in New York. So if I want to watch the Miami games, I have to pay extra for the baseball, basketball, football and hockey packages.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 14:58:02 GMT
I don't know exactly what it works out to, but I also pay in the neighborhood of $1000 or so per year to watch all of my teams' games on TV--that's on top of my normal cable bill. If you were a fan of the teams where you happen to live, and you only want to see their games, you wouldn't have to pay anything extra. But my #1 teams are the Miami teams, and I live in New York. So if I want to watch the Miami games, I have to pay extra for the baseball, basketball, football and hockey packages. I pay I think in the region of £90/month, that's for all the sports packages, movies (which I never watch), kids and other entertainment packages (again which I never watch), but that does include phone and fibre broadband too. Probably could get that cheaper, I'm told, if I ring up and pretend I want to cancel but not got round to it. Plus there are normally about 4 PPV boxing events a year at around £14.99 each. So that pretty much covers all the sport you can handle EXCEPT we have a crazy situation here where EPL games which kick off at 3pm aren't allowed to be televised in Britain (to protect lower leagues), so even after buying all the sports packages possible, I would still have to watch some games via illicit methods on foreign networks. Might cancel the sports packages though, as I watch too much football as it is, and I sometimes end up watching some games on my laptop anyway.
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Post by Father Jack on Apr 24, 2018 15:08:27 GMT
The 3 O'clock kick offs ban on showing live prem games isn't crazy. As you point out, it's in place to protect and encourage attendances at lower league games.
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Post by Father Jack on Apr 24, 2018 15:13:09 GMT
If you want seats in the best area for the New York Yankees tonight--it's the beginning of the season, they're playing the Twins, which isn't a very posh match-up, and the weather is still crappy, you're going to be cold sitting there right now, and of course this is a weeknight game that could go late (it's baseball, it could always go late)--all factors that make this a relatively cheap game--it would cost you $350. Of course, you can get in the building for $8, but those are bleacher seats. Is that just one day? $350? And don't they play 6 times a week? So if you were inclined to go every day $2100 a week. I guess not many people go every day? Maybe Father Jack should change the thread title to "FA Cup Final bargain ticket price bonanza" No, Father Jack shouldn't change the thread title... Just because the yanks are getting ripped off, don't want us to join in... "Twenty is Plenty"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 15:13:40 GMT
The 3 O'clock kick offs ban on showing live prem games isn't crazy. As you point out, it's in place to protect and encourage attendances at lower league games. Yeah I agree, what is crazy though is the EPL even have 3pm kickoffs, when they could easily move them to another time. Then everyone is a winner.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 22:52:26 GMT
The 3 O'clock kick offs ban on showing live prem games isn't crazy. As you point out, it's in place to protect and encourage attendances at lower league games. That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
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