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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 24, 2018 11:25:38 GMT
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Post by staggerstag on Apr 25, 2018 4:53:13 GMT
His condescension is breathtaking. He has surely been informed that over 58% of Liverpool voters went in favour of Remain, way above the national average of nearly 52%, and this is another example of his self-proclaimed 'Helping Syndrome', getting onside with the Natives, fitting in by any means, even if it must be by patronizing more than one half a referendum-voting public - or is the patronizing better spent on the other, losing, half in his adopted back yard? It's hard to tell with him.
Here he again states fact followed by opinion ("I'm sure..." in the previous quote) and assumption ("It was a pure sign..." second quote). Fact, opinion and assumption also flow freely from his tongue with regard to his own Angela Merkel, another subject that his socio-political mind-theatrics seem at once at odds with and also content to let just happen with no other discernible motive other than promotion of his own thinly veiled and all but transparent pomposity. Again : "I really like her (Merkel) and she’s doing an unbelievable job. But it’s a very difficult job – which is not as well paid as a football manager either. I will stick with Liverpool.”
I suspect you will, Klopp. You'd never cut it on Merkel's wage.
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Post by mandragora on Apr 25, 2018 7:11:59 GMT
Yeah, that's true for most campaigns, Jürgen, even your beloved Merkel's.
I wonder who that was, I've never read that. If somebody wrote it, they most likely meant because he is a populist.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 8:42:16 GMT
I have a much more sensible and practical solution.
We split the country in two, let's just say for arguments sake just below Birmingham, all the people who want to remain, move south of Birmingham, all the people who want to leave move north of Birmingham. So remain get London and the south. Leave get Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield, Newcastle, Scotland, Northern Ireland, we'll even let them have the whole of Wales for free. Then we build a big wall. Then we see what happens for 20 years.
Guarantee you though, within 5 years, it will be like East Berlin up there. And you know it deep down.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 25, 2018 11:00:48 GMT
I have a much more sensible and practical solution. We split the country in two, let's just say for arguments sake just below Birmingham, all the people who want to remain, move south of Birmingham, all the people who want to leave move north of Birmingham. So remain get London and the south. Leave get Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield, Newcastle, Scotland, Northern Ireland, we'll even let them have the whole of Wales for free. Then we build a big wall. Then we see what happens for 20 years. Guarantee you though, within 5 years, it will be like East Berlin up there. And you know it deep down. London's like Chicago just now! P.S. Scotland and Norn Iron both voted heavily to Remain. |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 25, 2018 11:02:09 GMT
His condescension is breathtaking. He has surely been informed that over 58% of Liverpool voters went in favour of Remain, way above the national average of nearly 52%, and this is another example of his self-proclaimed 'Helping Syndrome', getting onside with the Natives, fitting in by any means, even if it must be by patronizing more than one half a referendum-voting public - or is the patronizing better spent on the other, losing, half in his adopted back yard? It's hard to tell with him.
Here he again states fact followed by opinion ("I'm sure..." in the previous quote) and assumption ("It was a pure sign..." second quote). Fact, opinion and assumption also flow freely from his tongue with regard to his own Angela Merkel, another subject that his socio-political mind-theatrics seem at once at odds with and also content to let just happen with no other discernible motive other than promotion of his own thinly veiled and all but transparent pomposity. Again : "I really like her (Merkel) and she’s doing an unbelievable job. But it’s a very difficult job – which is not as well paid as a football manager either. I will stick with Liverpool.”
I suspect you will, Klopp. You'd never cut it on Merkel's wage. Did you mean 58% of Liverpool fans voted in favour of Leave, Sgt.? Or is the 52% meant to be 48%? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 11:09:22 GMT
I have a much more sensible and practical solution. We split the country in two, let's just say for arguments sake just below Birmingham, all the people who want to remain, move south of Birmingham, all the people who want to leave move north of Birmingham. So remain get London and the south. Leave get Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield, Newcastle, Scotland, Northern Ireland, we'll even let them have the whole of Wales for free. Then we build a big wall. Then we see what happens for 20 years. Guarantee you though, within 5 years, it will be like East Berlin up there. And you know it deep down. London's like Chicago just now! P.S. Scotland and Norn Iron both voted heavily to Remain.Be that as it may, but I'm not moving there!  (Kidding, I love NI, but only passed through Scotland to get the ferry to NI). But yeah, I was aware of that, but we have to split the country in two somehow, and London voted remain too, and I figured the leavers would want as much distance between them and France as possible. |
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Post by staggerstag on Apr 25, 2018 11:41:55 GMT
"Did you mean 58% of Liverpool fans voted in favour of Leave, Sgt.? Or is the 52% meant to be 48%?"
Well-spotted, sir. Yes, 48% not 52.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Apr 25, 2018 12:11:22 GMT
is he still talking about the trade deals b/t china & germany?
i recall him doing that at his old job.
quite the intellectual....
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 25, 2018 12:27:05 GMT
is he still talking about the trade deals b/t china & germany? i recall him doing that at his old job. quite the intellectual.... I haven't seen him mention that here. |
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 25, 2018 14:17:41 GMT
As May said: out is out. And as German he has no right of word here.
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Post by Excellent Bulletproof Vest on Apr 25, 2018 14:23:55 GMT
It pains me to say this but he's 100% right.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 25, 2018 14:44:28 GMT
As May said: out is out. And as German he has no right of word here. You're shitting yourself that we'll be allowed to stay in! Why so concerned? |
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 25, 2018 15:01:43 GMT
As May said: out is out. And as German he has no right of word here. You're shitting yourself that we'll be allowed to stay in! Why so concerned? Because either way: it will be a win-win for us. If you do better as before, it will give us a realistic chance to quit the EU too. If you do worse, we did the right thing in remaining. But if you were allowed to stay, it would be a lose-lose: you would remain the trouble maker you have always been, and you would also try to blackmail the rest of us: give us special privileges (=> Thatcher: I want my money back!) or we will have a new referendum. Hence, lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als ein Schrecken ohne Ende (better an end in terror, than an terror without end) |
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 25, 2018 15:21:04 GMT
You're shitting yourself that we'll be allowed to stay in! Why so concerned? Because either way: it will be a win-win for us. If you do better as before, it will give us a realistic chance to quit the EU too. If you do worse, we did the right thing in remaining. But if you were allowed to stay, it would be a lose-lose: you would remain the trouble maker you have always been, and you would also try to blackmail the rest of us: give us special privileges (=> Thatcher: I want my money back!) or we will have a new referendum. Hence, lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als ein Schrecken ohne Ende (better an end in terror, than an terror without end) OK, thanks for explaining your rationale. Although there's no way we'd ever be given special rebates again if we were to be allowed to remain. |
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 25, 2018 18:11:49 GMT
Because either way: it will be a win-win for us. If you do better as before, it will give us a realistic chance to quit the EU too. If you do worse, we did the right thing in remaining. But if you were allowed to stay, it would be a lose-lose: you would remain the trouble maker you have always been, and you would also try to blackmail the rest of us: give us special privileges (=> Thatcher: I want my money back!) or we will have a new referendum. Hence, lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken, als ein Schrecken ohne Ende (better an end in terror, than an terror without end) OK, thanks for explaining your rationale. Although there's no way we'd ever be given special rebates again if we were to be allowed to remain. Britain would have been a great asset to the EU, if it had ever been willing to be part of it, but it never had. It was always some lukewarm situation...swimming without getting wet. But I can fullly understand why a slight majority voted to leave, and I respect that. But you must also understand, that the EU must give you a hard time, or othes will follow your path, and the EU will fall apart. Personally, I think the likes of Merkel and their immigration (open borders, lost of control, annual cost of about 60 billion for around 2 million refugees while our schoosl, infrastructure and military spendings are in a dire state) and fiscal policy (=> allowing Greece to join the Euro for political reasons only, only to save it (and the banks) then with tax money, Germany's target obligation 2 has reach a sum of 800 billion*, and the only politician who is talking about it is Weigel) will be the death of EU. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TARGET2The EU exists on borrowed time only - imho. |
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(Kidding, I love NI, but only passed through Scotland to get the ferry to NI).
