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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 5, 2020 1:57:17 GMT
Maybe the car comes from Ghost Rider.
I always loved Spawn, in truth.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 5, 2020 1:45:12 GMT
Correct.
Wondering about the fire approaching the (red?) car.
I don't know what that is from.
I guess this is the only "mystery" LOL
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 5, 2020 1:36:13 GMT
Maybe the human torch is taken from "Universal Soldier"? Doesn't seem so, even.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 5, 2020 1:34:57 GMT
No, no, before that, seconds before. You see an Human Torch. Right after the scene of a tongue of fire approaching a car (always T2?).
49 seconds - 55 seconds is Spawn and a couple repeats of the same sequence later in the video.
Correct.
Wondering about the fire approaching the (red?) car.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 5, 2020 1:31:02 GMT
The man burning in flames, that must be from Spawn I guess. Yup. If you mean the man falling through the fire tunnel.
No, no, before that, seconds before. You see an Human Torch. Right after the scene of a tongue of fire approaching a car (always T2?).
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 5, 2020 1:28:20 GMT
The man totally burning in flames, like a human torch, that must be from Spawn I guess.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 5, 2020 1:18:37 GMT
Terminator 2? The city exploding?
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 4, 2020 23:46:48 GMT
I noticed that YouTube is filled with amateur "videoclips" made by casual users, which use footage from various Hollywood movies without crediting them.
Can you recognize the footage? Heavy memory work, sometimes.
I will start the game with this very cool videoclip "supporting" the classic song FIRE by pioneer artist Arthur Brown, the first singer who wore a make-up mask long time before Alice Cooper and KISS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GCSWEgZT94
Do you recognize the movies?
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 4, 2020 12:05:00 GMT
"Universal Soldier: The Return" (1999) is undoubtley the least of the bunch. Generally speaking, "Regeneration" (2009) retconned it. However, I found a way to connect it to the later movies.
I'm developing and fleshing out this cool scenario. So please, follow me.
Well:
The Return is not the second chapter, or an alternate world, but a sort of spin-off also functioning as fourth chapter. It is set in the future, 20 years after the events of Day of Reckoning.
The "Luc Deveraux" we see in the movie is a clone, like the ones depicted in DOR (or even "Andrew" in Regeneration). The main difference is that genetic engineers succeeded into toning down his UniSol DNA component in order to make him stable and useful.
This doesn't ruin the ending of DOR, because the UniSol organization ("The Brotherhood of Chronos") has surely infiltrated state and goverment the best it could, controlling many aspects of U.S.A. and people.
A special project called "UniSol 2500" is then established, mainly based on the powerful A.I. known as "S.E.T.H." (Self-Evolving Thought Helix).
On the other hand, Luc Deveraux II is as an half-human, half-UniSol clone, and retains memories of his past life. He conceived a daughter, Hillary, and then started to work as technician and counsuelor for the UniSol 2500 Program, as planned by his creators.
The Brotherhood of Chronos, led by John II (or his successor), watches the program from the shadows, in need to see what S.E.T.H. can accomplish for them.
In the movie, there are no timestamps or dates.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 2, 2020 23:51:03 GMT
Wonderful!
But one single timeline?
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 2, 2020 19:36:40 GMT
"Thats not a good explanation, alternative world doesn't then explain why these 3 characters look different yet act the same as their original versions, and end up in the exact same place at the exact same time despite this." Hello Dazz, It has been clearly stated by producers and writers that the Genisys World is an alternate universe where a slightly different version of T1 "originally" occurred in 1984, and T2 never ever happened. This explains why the original T-800 moves so fast, why Sarah and Kyle look different (recasting) and all other slightly different details you got in 1984. Alex/T-5000 (Matt Smith) was a counterpart of Skynet coming from an alternate world, which materialized in the year 2029 of the Genisys World. It wasn't the Prime Universe (Cameron's T1 and T2). That said, the original T-800 moving and fighting so fast was extremely cool to see. No it doesn't, the T-800 sent back is still the same T-800 from T1, as is obvious by the fact he is there, this is a different timeline with a different Sarah, therefor if this T-800 came from that timelines future it would know the differences of the timeline and not be in the same place as the original, as such he should move like Arnie did in T1. Wait, I will try to explain myself even better:
The "THE TERMINATOR" (T1) movie which originally happens in the Genisys World is not our Cameron's "THE TERMINATOR" (T1) movie. It is slightly different. The original T-800 is faster and stronger, has a different combat mode. Sarah is different. She looks like Emila Clarke.
Kyle is different. He looks like Jai Courtney. The 2029 future is different. The Polaroid shot is still intact. John Connor looks like Jason Clarke. And the list goes one. The T-1000 is chinese.
Even without the T-5000 altering the future and the entire timeline, it was an alternate world from T1/T2.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 2, 2020 19:11:30 GMT
Any more feedback?
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 2, 2020 2:30:45 GMT
"Thats not a good explanation, alternative world doesn't then explain why these 3 characters look different yet act the same as their original versions, and end up in the exact same place at the exact same time despite this."
Hello Dazz,
It has been clearly stated by producers and writers that the Genisys World is an alternate universe where a slightly different version of T1 "originally" occurred in 1984, and T2 never ever happened. This explains why the original T-800 moves so fast, why Sarah and Kyle look different (recasting) and all other slightly different details you got in 1984.
Alex/T-5000 (Matt Smith) was a counterpart of Skynet coming from an alternate world, which materialized in the year 2029 of the Genisys World. It wasn't the Prime Universe (Cameron's T1 and T2).
That said, the original T-800 moving and fighting so fast was extremely cool to see.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 2, 2020 2:24:07 GMT
Only saw the first one. Thought it was pretty lame.
Watch Regeneration and Day of Reckoning. The Return is an alternate continuity.
This is my ranking list:
1- Universal Soldier: Regeneration (2009) A sci-fi masterpiece that feels like a cross between David Cronenberg, John Carpenter and Metal Gear. Cold, ruthless, fascinating, thrilling, exciting and visually marvellous.
2- Universal Soldier (1992) The classic that started it all! Wonderful, fun, intriguing, cool, plenty of memorable scenes. Jean-Claude and Dolph at their best.
3- Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning (2012) Frightening sci-fi/action jewel, very mysterious and engaging. Scott Adkins did a good job as the new lead character, John. Luc Deveraux in his "Apocalypse Now" guise is scary and tormented. Exceptional.
4- Universal Soldier: The Return (1999) It looks and feels like an average Van Damme flick. Still, it features great action and a new batch of Universal Soldiers. Making Luc human again was a big mistake. Good movie, not great.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 1, 2020 23:49:22 GMT
The recreation of the locations from Terminator 1 in Genysis was pretty good especially since they shot in Atlanta. But they screwed it up with a)the old sounding Arnie voice and b) the people playing Bill Paxton etc not being anything like them. They could have had a great teaser trailer if they better matched the original and then suddenly older Arnie shows up behind his younger self. They also screwed it up by having the two fight like video game characters.
The fight was great. Not videogame-like at all.
That said, it was an alternate world. There were some differences from the original T1.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 1, 2020 23:41:15 GMT
Any more feedback?
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 1, 2020 23:35:48 GMT
The first time you watched it? Scale of 1 - 10. For me, it was about a 7. "Why is he going back to the cabin with another girl? Ok, but why is he digging out that book again?!"
Whe I was a little kid, I just supposed that he survived the first movie, aged a bit, and went to another cabin with another girl. And there was a new book on there.
Then I realized that the prologue was a big retcon. LOL
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Nov 1, 2020 23:24:49 GMT
You cannot miss this.
My website focused on the Universal Soldier saga, starring Jean-Claude Van Damme and Dolph Lundgren:
Universal Soldier (1992) Universal Soldier: The Return (1999) - alternate continuity Universal Soldier: Regeneration (2009) Universal Soldier: Day of Reckoning (2012)
Everything about the timelines of the alternate worlds, the UniSol biotechnology, the characters and the stories.
THE UNIVERSAL SOLDIER SAGA universalsoldiersaga.blogspot.com
LUC DEVERAUX LIVES!
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Oct 21, 2020 18:27:18 GMT
As members of the Terminator franchise I go 1 - TSCC 2 - ROTM
Such a wonderful TV series.
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Post by Wolverine10005 on Oct 17, 2020 10:08:19 GMT
All parallel universes, as hinted by Genisys, as well as massive continuity discrepancies and casting changes.
I loved all Terminator movies, I'm a huge fan. This is my ranking order anyway:
1- Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) 2- Terminator Genisys (2015) 3- Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2008-2009) 4- Terminator: Dark Fate (2019) 5- Terminator Salvation (2009)
Genisys had brilliant ideas, as well as an interesting story, I didn't like the casting at all. Especially Kyle Reese.
Rise was a great movie. Epic and exciting. The TX was a memorable villain IMHO.
The TV series was incredible. I loved it. Narrative twists, character-arcs and great special effects. Terrific work.
Dark Fate is a great movie, so underrated. It was VERY derivative, but charming nonetheless.
I loved Salvation, but it resembled a Transformers movie. Marcus Wright is a wonderful addition to the Terminator mythos.
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