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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 17, 2017 2:19:36 GMT
So a Venom movie has finally been announced for October of 2018, and few question immediately spring to mind.
- Where does the symbiote come from? - Will Spidey ever wear it? And if so when? - If it's a Venom movie, is he going to be the hero? If so, will he have ever been an enemy of Spidey at that point?
I think the easiest way to do this is to simply transfer the original fallen hero story, straight to Brock. Have Spidey get the suit sometime during Infinity War, found in space somewhere, and instead of him being the hero to fall, the suit simply abandons him for Brock, who's frustration it finds more appealing. Have Brock acting as the hero then, only to fall to the influence of the suit, and instead of the original Symbiote story where Peter is the one to rip off the suit, it is Brock who discovers it is influencing him and rips it off. The suit then goes to Cledus Cassidy, and bam, we have a Maximum Carnage sequel.
It fits like a glove, given that there won't be a movie dedicated to Parker getting the suit and it taking a toll on him.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 17, 2017 2:29:41 GMT
I believe it's more or less been stated that the Venom spin-off won't actually be part of the MCU, which is bizarre.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 17, 2017 2:31:59 GMT
I believe it's more or less been stated that the Venom spin-off won't actually be part of the MCU, which is bizarre. So they're going to do a Venom movie, but it won't have anything to do with the current version of Spiderman? That's just weird. I don't even see the point.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 17, 2017 2:36:08 GMT
That seems to be the plan so far, especially since Kevin Feige has seemingly no involvement, and yes, it is a pretty pointless idea.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 17, 2017 2:41:18 GMT
That seems to be the plan so far, especially since Kevin Feige has seemingly no involvement, and yes, it is a pretty pointless idea. This is a great example of why I don't agree with the people who just want great films that exist on their own, instead of a continuity with others.
You can make a great film, that uses continuity to branch a story from. There is nothing inherently superior about ignoring everything else and just doing a film that exists in a vacuum when you have the opportunity to add layers to it.
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Post by flasuss on Mar 17, 2017 5:02:17 GMT
That seems to be the plan so far, especially since Kevin Feige has seemingly no involvement, and yes, it is a pretty pointless idea. This is a great example of why I don't agree with the people who just want great films that exist on their own, instead of a continuity with others.
You can make a great film, that uses continuity to branch a story from. There is nothing inherently superior about ignoring everything else and just doing a film that exists in a vacuum when you have the opportunity to add layers to it.
Except it's freakin' VENOM! The movie is pointless even if he's connected to Spider-Man, let alone if he's not.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 17, 2017 5:10:28 GMT
Except it's freakin' VENOM! The movie is pointless even if he's connected to Spider-Man, let alone if he's not. I tend to agree that Venom as a solo film doesn't make a ton of sense, however it might be possible to weave in a thunderbolts angle, play on Kraven's last hunt perhaps, and lead to Carnage maybe in a way that is all productive.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 17, 2017 5:33:55 GMT
This is a great example of why I don't agree with the people who just want great films that exist on their own, instead of a continuity with others.
You can make a great film, that uses continuity to branch a story from. There is nothing inherently superior about ignoring everything else and just doing a film that exists in a vacuum when you have the opportunity to add layers to it.
Except it's freakin' VENOM! The movie is pointless even if he's connected to Spider-Man, let alone if he's not. Well, if they were making the film about Flash Thompson's Venom, I guess I could theoretically see it working. That being said, it's obvious that the film's only being made because Sony is essentially on life support as a studio by this point.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 17, 2017 7:09:38 GMT
That being said, it's obvious that the film's only being made because Sony is essentially on life support as a studio by this point. All the more reason to make strong ties to the MCU and not leave it as some out of any continuity stand alone film. Making it a part of the MCU makes it must watch, must own. Making it stand alone means all bets are off.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 17, 2017 12:14:31 GMT
I like Venom, but this is a bad idea.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 17, 2017 15:24:01 GMT
I like Venom, but this is a bad idea. Not necessarily.
You don't even know what the idea is.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 17, 2017 17:09:46 GMT
Or just keep it a stand-alone origin story with Eddie Brock as the protagonist. Come up with a different origin for the symbiote's presence on Earth. Show us how the world carries on even with a Spider-Man swinging around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 17:47:15 GMT
So they're divorcing Venom from the source? Not interested.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 17, 2017 18:09:13 GMT
This is going to be Catwoman or Steel all over again.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 17, 2017 21:29:44 GMT
This is going to be Catwoman or Steel all over again. The dark age you mean?
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 17, 2017 21:35:36 GMT
This is going to be Catwoman or Steel all over again. The dark age you mean? More like the Dork Age.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 22, 2017 2:51:54 GMT
So they're divorcing Venom from the source? Not interested. No my theory doesn't divorce it from the source. It just passes the struggle with the suit to Eddie Brock. So Spidey still gets it, he just looses it when the suit voluntarily leaves him because it prefers Brock, and then it's Brock who has the struggle with his dark side with it on. It's when he rips it off that it goes to Cassidy. And I think that would be fine.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 22, 2017 2:59:06 GMT
Or just keep it a stand-alone origin story with Eddie Brock as the protagonist. Come up with a different origin for the symbiote's presence on Earth. Show us how the world carries on even with a Spider-Man swinging around. I don't think that's really necessary.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 22, 2017 3:19:02 GMT
That seems to be the plan so far, especially since Kevin Feige has seemingly no involvement, and yes, it is a pretty pointless idea. i believe this is avi arad's long standing pet project.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 3:33:03 GMT
Avi Arad is still allowed to touch comic book properties? Sony seems to be learning as slowly as DC.
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