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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 1, 2017 4:08:42 GMT
Maybe this is just because of the way the trailer is edited, but just on the surface level all the action is cool and everything, but it feels very hollow and lifeless. And the CGI doesn't necessarily help it either.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Aug 1, 2017 4:29:59 GMT
Nah, it's going to be better than every MCU movie.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 1, 2017 6:15:26 GMT
If we all judged Spider-Man: Homecoming by its trailers then no one would've seen it.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 1, 2017 7:44:57 GMT
Maybe this is just because of the way the trailer is edited, but just on the surface level all the action is cool and everything, but it feels very hollow and lifeless. And the CGI doesn't necessarily help it either. It's how I felt with BvS. I thought that all the actions scenes were shot wonderfully and looked epic... but felt like that was all there was to it. Like a whole lot of icing and not enough cake. Turns out that was exactly what it was. I'm getting the same feeling with JLA but I hope I'm wrong. If nothing else, at least this movie will have Wonder Woman and Aquaman.
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 1, 2017 12:06:19 GMT
I happen to feel the same about pretty much every superhero movie with some exceptions of course. Most of the time they're just standard action films.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 1, 2017 12:23:03 GMT
superficial? Duh, these are superhero movies. The only ones with remotely a touch of depth IMO are:
- X1 - Watchmen - TDK - Unbreakable - Super - maybe Logan and WW as hon mentions
That's about it. Otherwise one must be very shallow to deem superhero movies deep (and get out of the kiddy pool for once).
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Post by charzhino on Aug 1, 2017 13:41:38 GMT
The MCU is the definition of superficial.
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Post by brownstones on Aug 1, 2017 15:15:00 GMT
Maybe this is just because of the way the trailer is edited, but just on the surface level all the action is cool and everything, but it feels very hollow and lifeless. And the CGI doesn't necessarily help it either. Here's the thing, the DCEU, despite being a hint more on the "serious" spectrum than Marvel proper, visually have a more fantastical look, a more hyper stylized aesthetic than a Thor or a DoFP (I think GOTG2 and Thor3 will be their most stylized films so far), I mean....they're going full red sky, meaning they don't really want it to feel grounded.....and yes I'm aware those are two conflicting directions.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 1, 2017 16:15:13 GMT
Maybe this is just because of the way the trailer is edited, but just on the surface level all the action is cool and everything, but it feels very hollow and lifeless. And the CGI doesn't necessarily help it either. Here's the thing, the DCEU, despite being a hint more on the "serious" spectrum than Marvel proper, visually have a more fantastical look, a more hyper stylized aesthetic than a Thor or a DoFP (I think GOTG2 and Thor3 will be their most stylized films so far), I mean....they're going full red sky, meaning they don't really want it to feel grounded.....and yes I'm aware those are two conflicting directions. You may have a point there. It's like SinCity. It's gritty and it's serious but it's so stylized that you feel completely detached from it.
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Post by brownstones on Aug 1, 2017 16:40:23 GMT
Here's the thing, the DCEU, despite being a hint more on the "serious" spectrum than Marvel proper, visually have a more fantastical look, a more hyper stylized aesthetic than a Thor or a DoFP (I think GOTG2 and Thor3 will be their most stylized films so far), I mean....they're going full red sky, meaning they don't really want it to feel grounded.....and yes I'm aware those are two conflicting directions. You may have a point there. It's like SinCity. It's gritty and it's serious but it's so stylized that you feel completely detached from it. Well, it's not that stylized. But personally I don't see what's wrong with taking a more.....idk.......painterly approach?
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 1, 2017 16:54:32 GMT
You may have a point there. It's like SinCity. It's gritty and it's serious but it's so stylized that you feel completely detached from it. Well, it's not that stylized. But personally I don't see what's wrong with taking a more.....idk.......painterly approach? Well no, not that stylized. Just saying I get what you're trying to say. The way I used to describe it is that DC movies always went for making things feel epic and larger than life.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 1, 2017 17:53:44 GMT
Maybe this is just because of the way the trailer is edited, but just on the surface level all the action is cool and everything, but it feels very hollow and lifeless. And the CGI doesn't necessarily help it either. Here's the thing, the DCEU, despite being a hint more on the "serious" spectrum than Marvel proper, visually have a more fantastical look, a more hyper stylized aesthetic than a Thor or a DoFP (I think GOTG2 and Thor3 will be their most stylized films so far), I mean....they're going full red sky, meaning they don't really want it to feel grounded.....and yes I'm aware those are two conflicting directions. Well it's not really just the look I'm talking about (I can go along with it because it's a different approach), rather, how the characters are presented and the relationships between them. We haven't seen Aquaman, Flash or Cyborg on screen before, and the trailer portrays them like they've known each other for a while, and it's trying to be deep. So it just feels very unearned in a way. Look at the trailer for The Avengers. While we do see them together fighting, we also see that there's conflict between them and they even fight each other and aren't sure if the team will really work. Obviously they have the benefit because we've seen movies of each hero before, but look at Guardians of the Galaxy. It didn't really take till the end of the film for them to really want to come together as an official team, and the entire film they've just had their own agenda, even with the threat of Ronan. So it feels organic and natural. Obviously it's just the way the trailer is edited as with the teaser trailer for JL showed Aquaman turning Bruce down for joining, but DC does have a habit of just throwing stuff into the story to try and set up these pre-existing conditions/relationships regarding the plot and it just comes off really unnatural and contrived.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 18:16:11 GMT
Honestly, the film just looks like its set during the final days of the Tribulation Period from biblical prophecy.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 1, 2017 18:50:59 GMT
Here's the thing, the DCEU, despite being a hint more on the "serious" spectrum than Marvel proper, visually have a more fantastical look, a more hyper stylized aesthetic than a Thor or a DoFP (I think GOTG2 and Thor3 will be their most stylized films so far), I mean....they're going full red sky, meaning they don't really want it to feel grounded.....and yes I'm aware those are two conflicting directions. Well it's not really just the look I'm talking about (I can go along with it because it's a different approach), rather, how the characters are presented and the relationships between them. We haven't seen Aquaman, Flash or Cyborg on screen before, and the trailer portrays them like they've known each other for a while, and it's trying to be deep. So it just feels very unearned in a way. Look at the trailer for The Avengers. While we do see them together fighting, we also see that there's conflict between them and they even fight each other and aren't sure if the team will really work. Obviously they have the benefit because we've seen movies of each hero before, but look at Guardians of the Galaxy. It didn't really take till the end of the film for them to really want to come together as an official team, and the entire film they've just had their own agenda, even with the threat of Ronan. So it feels organic and natural. Obviously it's just the way the trailer is edited as with the teaser trailer for JL showed Aquaman turning Bruce down for joining, but DC does have a habit of just throwing stuff into the story to try and set up these pre-existing conditions/relationships regarding the plot and it just comes off really unnatural and contrived. Diana and Bruce already know each other and have even fought side-by-side in battle together so it's natural that they get along with each other. Barry Allen and Vic Stone are the 2 youngest members of the team and they're about the same age so it's natural that they're going to get along with each other. And it was shown in the first teaser and been known for some time that Aquaman is initially reluctant to join the team.
Plus, the Avengers started out fighting because they never wanted to be a team in the first place. They were all recruited by Nick Fury, and in Banner's case he was blackmailed to join the team. None of them wanted to be part of the team in the first place. That's why they failed at the beginning. That's the same reason the Suicide Squad failed at the beginning. They were all blackmailed to join the team by Amanda Waller.
With the Justice League, there's no government agent blackmailing them to join the team. Batman is recruiting them and they're choosing to join the team. So it's natural that they get along better initially than the Avengers because they're all there because they chose to be there and not because they were blackmailed by a government agent to be there.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 1, 2017 20:48:02 GMT
The MCU is the definition of superficial. Depends on how ashamed you are of the comics they come from.
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Post by furiousstyles77 on Aug 1, 2017 21:22:20 GMT
Maybe this is just because of the way the trailer is edited, but just on the surface level all the action is cool and everything, but it feels very hollow and lifeless. And the CGI doesn't necessarily help it either. Justice league looks fucking awful, like a bag of shite with chips of corn in it , this will be truly rotten garbage
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Post by politicidal on Aug 1, 2017 21:51:02 GMT
Honestly, the film just looks like its set during the final days of the Tribulation Period from biblical prophecy. Well, it IS Apokolips invading the planet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 21:59:45 GMT
Honestly, the film just looks like its set during the final days of the Tribulation Period from biblical prophecy. Well, it IS Apokolips invading the planet. Yes, the DCEU is busying itself blowing its load too early. Again. If the Earth already looks this trashed just five movies into what's supposed to be an ongoing cinematic universe, how are they going to be able to up the tension later when Darkseid himself shows up when it seems they're already trying to crank it as high as they can? There's a reason why planet Earth came out of Loki's invasion relatively unscathed. If Marvel had allowed him to wreck everything as badly as Independence Day aliens did on the first go, there'd be nothing left for Thanos to do.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 1, 2017 22:12:22 GMT
Well, it IS Apokolips invading the planet. Yes, the DCEU is busying itself blowing its load too early. Again. If the Earth already looks this trashed just five movies into what's supposed to be an ongoing cinematic universe, how are they going to be able to up the tension later when Darkseid himself shows up when it seems they're already trying to crank it as high as they can? There's a reason why planet Earth came out of Loki's invasion relatively unscathed. If Marvel had allowed him to wreck everything as badly as Independence Day aliens did on the first go, there'd be nothing left for Thanos to do. If you limit yourself to the Earth, sure. I'd just up the ante. Take them to New Genesis or Apokolips to continue the fight. It'd be different from an alien invasion or a skybeam.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 22:15:17 GMT
Yes, the DCEU is busying itself blowing its load too early. Again. If the Earth already looks this trashed just five movies into what's supposed to be an ongoing cinematic universe, how are they going to be able to up the tension later when Darkseid himself shows up when it seems they're already trying to crank it as high as they can? There's a reason why planet Earth came out of Loki's invasion relatively unscathed. If Marvel had allowed him to wreck everything as badly as Independence Day aliens did on the first go, there'd be nothing left for Thanos to do. If you limit yourself to the Earth, sure. I'd just up the ante. Take them to New Genesis or Apokolips to continue the fight. It'd be different from an alien invasion or a skybeam. Technically speaking, the Justice League would be the aliens wrecking things on New Genesis or Apokolips, and I guarantee there will be skybeams.
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