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Post by damngumby on May 23, 2018 18:38:11 GMT
Tony Stark's home is destroyed not because he revealed his identity to the world Gee, I wonder how everyone knows that Ironman is Tony Stark. It might have something to do with, "I am Ironman!" If Captain America was hiding behind a secret identity, No one would be looking for Steve Rogers. I'm betting that Clark Kent never got a bill for that 10 million dollar drone that Superman wantonly destroyed, just to demonstrate how humanity is the ant and he is the boot, whenever he so desires. Actually, that would be a great story! Perhaps a little too dark for the Saturday morning superhero cartoon crowd, but compelling none the less.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 23, 2018 20:16:47 GMT
Tony Stark's home is destroyed not because he revealed his identity to the world Gee, I wonder how everyone knows that Ironman is Tony Stark. It might have something to do with, "I am Ironman!" And was Tony Stark's home destroyed when he said "I am Iron Man"? NO! Tony Stark's home was destroyed because he was so stupid that he announced his home address on TV to the whole world! Maybe next time, Tony Stark will announce on TV to the whole world his social security number and credit card numbers.
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Post by damngumby on May 24, 2018 2:35:55 GMT
Gee, I wonder how everyone knows that Ironman is Tony Stark. It might have something to do with, "I am Ironman!" And was Tony Stark's home destroyed when he said "I am Iron Man"? NO! Tony Stark's home was destroyed because he was so stupid that he announced his home address on TV to the whole world!Stark’s address was public record. His house was destroyed because he was Ironman. Otherwise, no super villain would have cared what a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist had to say on TV. It’s amazing how the simplest things just sail completely over your head, cupcake.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 24, 2018 2:55:57 GMT
And was Tony Stark's home destroyed when he said "I am Iron Man"? NO! Tony Stark's home was destroyed because he was so stupid that he announced his home address on TV to the whole world!Stark’s address was public record. His house was destroyed because he was Ironman. Otherwise, no super villain would have cared what a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist had to say on TV. It’s amazing how the simplest things just sail completely over your head, cupcake. 1st, Stark's house was destroyed because he was so stupid that he announced his home address on TV to the whole world. 2nd, Stark isn't a genius because no one who is a genius would ever be so stupid to announce their home address on TV to the whole world. It's incredible how the simplest things just sail completely over your head and incredible how you need everything spelled out for you. Then again, you actually believed the BS excuse from the Patriots that Brady's equipment guy who deflated footballs for Brady to illegally use in games called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight. LOL!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 3:47:43 GMT
And was Tony Stark's home destroyed when he said "I am Iron Man"? NO! Tony Stark's home was destroyed because he was so stupid that he announced his home address on TV to the whole world!Stark’s address was public record. His house was destroyed because he was Ironman. Otherwise, no super villain would have cared what a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist had to say on TV. It’s amazing how the simplest things just sail completely over your head, cupcake. WRONG! It is explicitly said by Stark and others that it was his open invitation that led to his home being destroyed. Jarvis even mentions the mistake of giving out the address. Maybe you used the bathroom during these scenes. And who calls people cupcake, anyway? A bit odd, innit? GIVE BRADY THE CUPCAKES!!!!!!%
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Post by DC-Fan on May 24, 2018 3:58:29 GMT
Stark’s address was public record. His house was destroyed because he was Ironman. Otherwise, no super villain would have cared what a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist had to say on TV. It’s amazing how the simplest things just sail completely over your head, cupcake. WRONG! It is explicitly said by Stark and others that it was his open invitation that led to his home being destroyed. Jarvis even mentions the mistake of giving out the address. Maybe you used the bathroom during these scenes. LOL!!! King Kong Shady is wrong again, just like he was wrong when he claimed that his idol Tom Brady didn't cheat.
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Post by damngumby on May 24, 2018 10:57:20 GMT
Stark’s address was public record. His house was destroyed because he was Ironman. Otherwise, no super villain would have cared what a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist had to say on TV. It’s amazing how the simplest things just sail completely over your head, cupcake. 1st, Stark's house was destroyed because he was so stupid that he announced his home address on TV to the whole world. 2nd, Stark isn't a genius because no one who is a genius would ever be so stupid to announce their home address on TV to the whole world. It's incredible how the simplest things just sail completely over your head and incredible how you need everything spelled out for you. Then again, you actually believed the BS excuse from the Patriots that Brady's equipment guy who deflated footballs for Brady to illegally use in games called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight. LOL!!! So you have no answer to ... 1. Tony Stark’s address being public record. 2. No super villain would even bother with someone like Tony Stark if it wasn’t known that he was Ironman. Try not to prattle on when you have nothing to say, Garth ... and holy smoke! Tom Brady sure does live in your head, 24/7.
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Post by DSDSquared on May 24, 2018 11:50:29 GMT
In all fairness, the DC superheroes do a piss poor job of hiding their identities. I would argue that the general public and the friends and family of DC Superheroes are morons. Superman is just Clark without glasses. Is there any actor, athlete, or actress the media wouldn't immediately recognize if they just put on glasses? How about your own friend or family member? Wonder Woman is the same idea. She seriously does not wear a mask at all, yet no one knows who she is? This has always cracked me up.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 17:04:34 GMT
1st, Stark's house was destroyed because he was so stupid that he announced his home address on TV to the whole world. 2nd, Stark isn't a genius because no one who is a genius would ever be so stupid to announce their home address on TV to the whole world. It's incredible how the simplest things just sail completely over your head and incredible how you need everything spelled out for you. Then again, you actually believed the BS excuse from the Patriots that Brady's equipment guy who deflated footballs for Brady to illegally use in games called himself "The Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight. LOL!!! So you have no answer to ... 1. Tony Stark’s address being public record. 2. No super villain would even bother with someone like Tony Stark if it wasn’t known that he was Ironman. Try not to prattle on when you have nothing to say, Garth ... and holy smoke! Tom Brady sure does live in your head, 24/7. GIVE BRADY THE CUPCAKES!!!!!!@
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Post by Skaathar on May 24, 2018 17:20:58 GMT
The concept of secret identities is outdated. In this modern age of cellphones and security cameras and facial recognition software, maintaining a secret identity while being a superhero is near impossible.
I can understand why Spiderman and Daredevil are accomplishing it, they're low key enough to pass under the radar. Or at least in the meantime. Spiderman will eventually be a big enough name that he'll need to come out. But for Earth-saving superhero types like the Justice League? How the hell is Superman supposed to convince anyone that he's Clark Kent just because of glasses. Wonder Woman doesn't even have a disguise and Batman's half cowl should take any decent detective less than a month to crack.
It was a smart move by the MCU to do away with their secret identities. They're allowed to move more freely in the world and they don't have to make fools out of the audience.
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Post by damngumby on May 24, 2018 17:44:03 GMT
Crikey, you weren't kidding when you said you were following DC-Fraud. Has he bought you a dog collar and leash yet?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 19:11:14 GMT
I know. I need help. Help me, Ackbar! HELP ME! It's ok, Brady. I'm here for you.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 19:12:38 GMT
The concept of secret identities is outdated. In this modern age of cellphones and security cameras and facial recognition software, maintaining a secret identity while being a superhero is near impossible. I can understand why Spiderman and Daredevil are accomplishing it, they're low key enough to pass under the radar. Or at least in the meantime. Spiderman will eventually be a big enough name that he'll need to come out. But for Earth-saving superhero types like the Justice League? How the hell is Superman supposed to convince anyone that he's Clark Kent just because of glasses. Wonder Woman doesn't even have a disguise and Batman's half cowl should take any decent detective less than a month to crack. It was a smart move by the MCU to do away with their secret identities. They're allowed to move more freely in the world and they don't have to make fools out of the audience. Batman and Spiderman need their secret identities. The characters simply are not the same without them.
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Post by Skaathar on May 24, 2018 19:29:46 GMT
The concept of secret identities is outdated. In this modern age of cellphones and security cameras and facial recognition software, maintaining a secret identity while being a superhero is near impossible. I can understand why Spiderman and Daredevil are accomplishing it, they're low key enough to pass under the radar. Or at least in the meantime. Spiderman will eventually be a big enough name that he'll need to come out. But for Earth-saving superhero types like the Justice League? How the hell is Superman supposed to convince anyone that he's Clark Kent just because of glasses. Wonder Woman doesn't even have a disguise and Batman's half cowl should take any decent detective less than a month to crack. It was a smart move by the MCU to do away with their secret identities. They're allowed to move more freely in the world and they don't have to make fools out of the audience. Batman and Spiderman need their secret identities. The characters simply are not the same without them. Spiderman's a kid trying to take care of his aunt. It's understandable that he has a secret identity. It doesn't make sense for Batman though. He seems to have lost pretty much everything other than Alfred.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 19:34:38 GMT
Batman and Spiderman need their secret identities. The characters simply are not the same without them. Spiderman's a kid trying to take care of his aunt. It's understandable that he has a secret identity. It doesn't make sense for Batman though. He seems to have lost pretty much everything other than Alfred. If everyone knew that Batman was Bruce Wayne he would lose his mystique and cease to be a symbol. It isn't just about protecting his loved ones. Also, his mansion would be under constant attack.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 24, 2018 19:36:49 GMT
Another explaination for why DC continues to keep their superhero identities secret is that they are not particularly interested in holding their superheroes accountable for their actions. If they fuck up, there are no unpleasant consequences to follow them around. Marvel, on the other hand, has delved into this topic extensively. When a Marvel superhero screws the pooch, it changes their life. Tony Stark’s home is destroyed, Steve Rogers becomes a wanted man. Other superheroes are imprisoned. They don’t have that safety net of a second secret life to retreat into ... which helps make their stories more compelling. There is more at stake. More to lose. Less room for error. A big improvement would be for the DC superheroes to come out of the closet and throw that secret identity crutch away. It’s just holding them back. They made an entire movie about this very topic. BvS. Yeah it sucked, but that was the plot of the film. The superheroes dealing with the consequences of their actions and how the public perceived them.
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Post by damngumby on May 24, 2018 19:49:11 GMT
Spiderman's a kid trying to take care of his aunt. It's understandable that he has a secret identity. It doesn't make sense for Batman though. He seems to have lost pretty much everything other than Alfred. If everyone knew that Batman was Bruce Wayne he would lose his mystique and cease to be a symbol. It isn't just about protecting his loved ones. Also, his mansion would be under constant attack. What kind of "symbol" is Batman in the DCEU? A symbol of unlawful vigilantism and someone totally upstaged by all other superheroes with actual superpowers?
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Post by damngumby on May 24, 2018 20:04:54 GMT
Another explaination for why DC continues to keep their superhero identities secret is that they are not particularly interested in holding their superheroes accountable for their actions. If they fuck up, there are no unpleasant consequences to follow them around. Marvel, on the other hand, has delved into this topic extensively. When a Marvel superhero screws the pooch, it changes their life. Tony Stark’s home is destroyed, Steve Rogers becomes a wanted man. Other superheroes are imprisoned. They don’t have that safety net of a second secret life to retreat into ... which helps make their stories more compelling. There is more at stake. More to lose. Less room for error. A big improvement would be for the DC superheroes to come out of the closet and throw that secret identity crutch away. It’s just holding them back. They made an entire movie about this very topic. BvS. Yeah it sucked, but that was the plot of the film. The superheroes dealing with the consequences of their actions and how the public perceived them. I don't recall any of the superheroes in BvS suffering from the consequences of their actions. Superman attended a Senate hearing but he was never in any real danger of losing his freedom. At least Hancock actually went to prison. The day Superman walks into a cell surrounded by Kryptonite will be the day he actually submits to authority. Until that time, it's just empty gestures.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 24, 2018 20:24:47 GMT
They made an entire movie about this very topic. BvS. Yeah it sucked, but that was the plot of the film. The superheroes dealing with the consequences of their actions and how the public perceived them. I don't recall any of the superheroes in BvS suffering from the consequences of their actions. Superman attended a Senate hearing but he was never in any real danger of losing his freedom. At least Hancock actually went to prison. The day Superman walks into a cell surrounded by Kryptonite will be the day he actually submits to authority. Until that time, it's just empty gestures. You said DC was, "...not particularly interested in holding their superheroes accountable for their actions. If they fuck up, there are no unpleasant consequences to follow them around." The general public consensus seems to be anti-Superman and Batman in BvS. Batman is already seen as a dangerous outlaw by most at the beginning of the film. And Superman attends a senate hearing on the topic. He doesn't decide to go to prison because he was too busy dying after being blackmailed by Lex, blindsided by Bruce (whose entire motivation revolved around holding Superman responsible for the destruction in MOS), and brawling with an alien creature. But most of the audience (myself included) disliked the movie partly because Superman was constantly brooding over the morality of what he and Batman do instead of being a hero. And again, the movie closes with Clark dead and Bruce regretting his part in his demise, foreseeing a greater threat in the future without what could've been his strongest ally. The movie is about consequences. I'm not getting heavily involved in a conversation where I have to defend the DCEU by any means. I just wanted to point out that it's clear DC addressed the topic of holding their heroes accountable in BvS.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 20:58:37 GMT
If everyone knew that Batman was Bruce Wayne he would lose his mystique and cease to be a symbol. It isn't just about protecting his loved ones. Also, his mansion would be under constant attack. What kind of "symbol" is Batman in the DCEU? A symbol of unlawful vigilantism and someone totally upstaged by all other superheroes with actual superpowers? I am not talking about the DCEU. I am talking about the character in general.
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