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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 26, 2018 12:05:11 GMT
Kevin Feige seems to be the only studio exec who understands what fans want out of a comic book movie. He knows how to translate the essence of Marvel comics from page to screen, Fox and WB just don't have anyone like that. It's all studio group think over there, that's why the majority of their films are garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 16:09:49 GMT
if these is about movies. no they are not doing better. that is media propaganda that favours mcu movies, but thank goodness there are film makers who tell the truth. Also the best of the DC movies are better and more daring than the cookie cutter childish mcu movies. lastly DC is superior to marvel in comics, video, games and animation and overall artistry. In today's world if a good movie gets praise and you disagree with them then everyone must be biased? Well that's some backwards thinking. The Dark Knight and Batman Begins are the only DC movies better than the majority of the MCU. Other than that MCU has been better. Also in today's world movies make more money and are known to be more popular with fans than comics, tv shows, cartoons and video games.
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Post by merh on Jun 27, 2018 1:36:46 GMT
lastly DC is superior to marvel in comics, video, games and animation and overall artistry. very true, I do not recall ever to have played (or even heard of) a great Marvel game, or having read their comics (besides Marvel Star Wars which was pretty bad still) or seen any worthwhile animation. Whereas, as a comic book sceptic I only have to say Gotham Asylum games (played them), TDK Returns & Watchmen (read them) and countless animation films from DC (seen them).
Case closed.
The new spiderman game is supposed to be killer, isnt it?
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Post by damngumby on Jun 27, 2018 1:40:32 GMT
They have success but not quality Who has the “quality”? Please provide a few examples. Wow. Crickets!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 27, 2018 20:40:44 GMT
According to CBR, Avengers 3 is the most successful of all the MCU movies made so far money wise. Meanwhile Justice League actually did the worse out if the DCEU movies. Marvel and DC are both so similar to each other but DC struggles a lot. Even before the DCEU anything that wasnt Batman, like Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Green Lantern and Superman Returns flopped. Marvel though had multiple Spider-man and X-men movies. What is the difference that one can be doing so well and the other doing so badly? Is it the characters? Do people not like the other DC characters because theyre more other worldly? Is it because they are too dark and depressing? The actors they've chosen? This might sound like a vague answer, but the truth is that the DC movies aren't doing well because they're... wait for it... DC. That's it. There's no better reason than that. In the 60's when Marvel comics came out with Spider-Man and Fantastic Four, revolutionizing the comics industry, they took hold of the notion that they were the cooler, hipper, better comics company. And that spilled over into all other media that both they and DC were licensing- toys, cartoons, TV shows, and movies. DC had been around since forever and they were seen as the old fogies, "grandpas comics". And that has taken such a strong hold that nothing can break it, even to this day. The only character that breaks out of that mold is Batman and many people say that its because of all DC's characters Batman is the most "Marvel like". I don't know what that means or if its even true, but there you have it. There's no one single reason why Marvel is thought of as being better. It's just a generally held belief, based on vapor. If you ask anyone why they like Marvel better than DC you'll get a hundred different answers, many of which sound like "because". On the other hand, there's no denying that movies like Catwoman and Jonah Hex blew. But then, so did Daredevil, Hulk and Elektra, so... As for MCU specifically, I would say that Kevin Feige runs a tight ship, came out with the idea of the interconnected movies first, and hit upon a formula that people like. Period.
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Post by Marv on Jun 29, 2018 23:21:11 GMT
According to CBR, Avengers 3 is the most successful of all the MCU movies made so far money wise. Meanwhile Justice League actually did the worse out if the DCEU movies. Marvel and DC are both so similar to each other but DC struggles a lot. Even before the DCEU anything that wasnt Batman, like Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Green Lantern and Superman Returns flopped. Marvel though had multiple Spider-man and X-men movies. What is the difference that one can be doing so well and the other doing so badly? Is it the characters? Do people not like the other DC characters because theyre more other worldly? Is it because they are too dark and depressing? The actors they've chosen? This might sound like a vague answer, but the truth is that the DC movies aren't doing well because they're... wait for it... DC. That's it. There's no better reason than that. In the 60's when Marvel comics came out with Spider-Man and Fantastic Four, revolutionizing the comics industry, they took hold of the notion that they were the cooler, hipper, better comics company. And that spilled over into all other media that both they and DC were licensing- toys, cartoons, TV shows, and movies. DC had been around since forever and they were seen as the old fogies, "grandpas comics". And that has taken such a strong hold that nothing can break it, even to this day. The only character that breaks out of that mold is Batman and many people say that its because of all DC's characters Batman is the most "Marvel like". I don't know what that means or if its even true, but there you have it. There's no one single reason why Marvel is thought of as being better. It's just a generally held belief, based on vapor. If you ask anyone why they like Marvel better than DC you'll get a hundred different answers, many of which sound like "because". On the other hand, there's no denying that movies like Catwoman and Jonah Hex blew. But then, so did Daredevil, Hulk and Elektra, so... As for MCU specifically, I would say that Kevin Feige runs a tight ship, came out with the idea of the interconnected movies first, and hit upon a formula that people like. Period. I never really understood how people aligned with one comic company over another. I’ve read plenty of great stories from both and they each have their own interesting characters. It’s not like they have exclusive writers or cartoonists either. Those guys go back and forth all the time. Always seemed weird to me to have such a strong brand loyalty without any real reason to. It’s comic book nerds doing themselves a disservice.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 2, 2018 19:11:46 GMT
This might sound like a vague answer, but the truth is that the DC movies aren't doing well because they're... wait for it... DC. That's it. There's no better reason than that. In the 60's when Marvel comics came out with Spider-Man and Fantastic Four, revolutionizing the comics industry, they took hold of the notion that they were the cooler, hipper, better comics company. And that spilled over into all other media that both they and DC were licensing- toys, cartoons, TV shows, and movies. DC had been around since forever and they were seen as the old fogies, "grandpas comics". And that has taken such a strong hold that nothing can break it, even to this day. The only character that breaks out of that mold is Batman and many people say that its because of all DC's characters Batman is the most "Marvel like". I don't know what that means or if its even true, but there you have it. There's no one single reason why Marvel is thought of as being better. It's just a generally held belief, based on vapor. If you ask anyone why they like Marvel better than DC you'll get a hundred different answers, many of which sound like "because". On the other hand, there's no denying that movies like Catwoman and Jonah Hex blew. But then, so did Daredevil, Hulk and Elektra, so... As for MCU specifically, I would say that Kevin Feige runs a tight ship, came out with the idea of the interconnected movies first, and hit upon a formula that people like. Period. I never really understood how people aligned with one comic company over another. I’ve read plenty of great stories from both and they each have their own interesting characters. It’s not like they have exclusive writers or cartoonists either. Those guys go back and forth all the time. Always seemed weird to me to have such a strong brand loyalty without any real reason to. It’s comic book nerds doing themselves a disservice. ^^^THIS^^^. Those of us that are into comics know that its the particular creators and artists that make a character/title interesting, not necessarily the character, and certainly not the company.
When Frank Miller was on a title that title skyrocketed. When he left the book that title went down. No matter whether it was Marvel OR DC.
Back in the day when guys like John Byrne, Walt Simonson, George Perez, Todd McFarlane, Jim Lee worked on a particular character or title that book had sales! And as soon as that creator left the books would go back down in sales; regardless of company. So, Marvel OR DC, was irrelevant.
The only characters that I can think of that stay afloat no matter who writes or draws them are Spiderman and Batman.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jul 2, 2018 19:39:38 GMT
The only bias I see is that Marvel Studio has made movies General Audiences, Critics, and Comic Book fans have liked. They go into each new movie with a positive attitude based on the previous movies. This took years to cultivate though. Also people love connective tissue in stories. I'm almost half convinced people read Stephen King stories just to find that connective tissue. Having a positive or negative attitude before hand can be a blessing or a curse though. It can have the opposite effect. If your positive attitude sets the bar to high you can get a negative reaction. If your negative attitude sets the bar to low you can have a more positive reaction. So far this hasn't happened to MCU in any major way. For the most part people go into a MCU movie with positive attitude and it's matched. With the DCEU it's been the snow ball effect the other way. People are going in with neutral or negative outlook and have had that outlook matched by the movies. With Suicide Squad I think the negative outlook helped it. People set the bar so low that when it was better than that bar it was cheered. Wonder Woman beat it's outlook too. Most people just wanted WW to be decent. When it turned out good it made people think it was Phenomenal. It's funny though Wonder Woman couldn't save Justice League. I'm hoping Aquaman does well and WW1984 does well. It might turn the tide on the general feeling that DCEU movies are going to fail, before they are even out.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Jul 2, 2018 20:59:39 GMT
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