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Post by James on Jul 20, 2018 21:21:14 GMT
The Avengers comes close.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 20, 2018 21:23:37 GMT
The only film that can be factually argued better than TDK is Logan. We can see this more in how Logan went a step further to a best picture oscar nom after TDK started the journey by earning a nom in a major category. and this is when we look at the oscars as a chance to celebrate artistic merit not political bs. Also Logan is pure excellent drama the only other films that can be opinionated argued better than TDK is Batman Begins, DOFP, Spiderman 2 and X2. Why? simple. because they were all approached the same way. DOFP, X2, Batamn Begins gets that alone for been extremely grounded comic films. the MCU movies are automatically disqualified because their movies have a disney childish tone, too CGI looking and follow a factory house formula than a director's vision Logan is the closest, but the lack of a good villain brought it down. If Logan had a Heath Ledger Joker performance for it's villain then it would possibly surpass TDK. But it didn't. Still 2nd place still isn't bad. What do you mean? Logan had Albert in it!
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Post by hobowar on Jul 20, 2018 23:14:14 GMT
The Avengers comes close. It slays it in my opinion.
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Post by James on Jul 20, 2018 23:41:43 GMT
The Avengers comes close. It slays it in my opinion. Can't deny that.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jul 21, 2018 0:15:26 GMT
The only film that can be factually argued better than TDK is Logan. We can see this more in how Logan went a step further to a best picture oscar nom after TDK started the journey by earning a nom in a major category. and this is when we look at the oscars as a chance to celebrate artistic merit not political bs. Also Logan is pure excellent drama the only other films that can be opinionated argued better than TDK is Batman Begins, DOFP, Spiderman 2 and X2. Why? simple. because they were all approached the same way. DOFP, X2, Batamn Begins gets that alone for been extremely grounded comic films. the MCU movies are automatically disqualified because their movies have a disney childish tone, too CGI looking and follow a factory house formula than a director's vision So you think being grounded is what merits the most amazing superhero film? Basically, you're saying a superhero film is great for trying to not be a superhero film.
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Post by scabab on Jul 21, 2018 5:34:19 GMT
The Avengers is great but I don't think it will age as well. The humour might work against it in the long run.
Still a Top 5 superhero movie though.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 21, 2018 5:47:40 GMT
The Avengers comes close. LOL! Comparing the Avengers to TDK is like comparing Johnny Dangerously to The Godfather.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 21, 2018 5:49:30 GMT
The Avengers comes close. LOL! Comparing the Avengers to TDK is like comparing Johnny Dangerously to The Godfather. How many times are you gonna make that same stupid fucking post?
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Post by James Bond on Jul 21, 2018 5:52:13 GMT
LOL! Comparing the Avengers to TDK is like comparing Johnny Dangerously to The Godfather. How many times are you gonna make that same stupid fucking post? How many times has he made it already?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 21, 2018 5:53:53 GMT
How many times are you gonna make that same stupid fucking post? How many times has he made it already? That was the third time.
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Post by James Bond on Jul 21, 2018 5:55:00 GMT
How many times has he made it already? That was the third time. Then I'd say he still has 7 to go.
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Post by darkpast on Jul 21, 2018 5:57:54 GMT
i still think Burton's Batmans are better than any MCU movie
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Post by hobowar on Jul 21, 2018 9:08:23 GMT
The Avengers is great but I don't think it will age as well. The humour might work against it in the long run. Still a Top 5 superhero movie though. The humour is the main reason the Avengers was so much better for me. That and the action scenes not looking like they were shot by Stevie Wonder.
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Post by scabab on Jul 21, 2018 16:24:19 GMT
That and the action scenes not looking like they were shot by Stevie Wonder. It was Batman Begins that really had that problem, you had no idea what was going on when they were fighting. They fixed that for the others.
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Post by kleinreturns on Jul 21, 2018 17:07:46 GMT
And please stop lying to yourselves about how "adult" and "dark" DOFP supposedly was. The movie ended with a cloying stupid "everyone lives" ending along with the so called villain in that was a midget who is so unbelievable weak, the entirely of the movie is based about STOPPING A WOMAN (MYSTIQUE) FROM SHOOTING HIM IN THE HEAD/KILLING HIM BECAUSE HE WAS SO DAMN WEAK.
Plus the writer didn't even have enough confidence in Midget Trask as a Villain, they literally have to bring back both Stryker (for the SECOND time and Trask himself was too similar to in this movie) and Magneto for the FOURTH time. And DOFP came about to fix the shitty FOX-Men messed up timeline from the last couple of disasters like X-men Origins and X3.
Logan was just a cheap blood/gore fest cash in and nothing special or gamechanging (more in the same vein as 300, Kick-Ass, etc.). Wolverine looked like Mel Gibson, the main villain was forgettable, rubbish with an terrible accent and Laura was a cheap attempt at rehashing a hit-girl type of killer.
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Post by hobowar on Jul 21, 2018 17:37:07 GMT
And please stop lying to yourselves about how "adult" and "dark" DOFP supposedly was. The movie ended with a cloying stupid "everyone lives" ending along with the so called villain in that was a midget who is so unbelievable weak, the entirely of the movie is based about STOPPING A WOMAN (MYSTIQUE) FROM SHOOTING HIM IN THE HEAD/KILLING HIM BECAUSE HE WAS SO DAMN WEAK.Plus the writer didn't even have enough confidence in Midget Trask as a Villain, they literally have to bring back both Stryker (for the SECOND time and Trask himself was too similar to in this movie) and Magneto for the FOURTH time. And DOFP came about to fix the shitty FOX-Men messed up timeline from the last couple of disasters like X-men Origins and X3. Logan was just a cheap blood/gore fest cash in and nothing special or gamechanging (more in the same vein as 300, Kick-Ass, etc.). Wolverine looked like Mel Gibson, the main villain was forgettable, rubbish with an terrible accent and Laura was a cheap attempt at rehashing a hit-girl type of killer. I liked Logan, but I agree completely about DoFP. The "everybody lives" ending would have gotten raked over the coals if it was an mcu movie.
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Post by summers8 on Jul 21, 2018 17:43:24 GMT
And please stop lying to yourselves about how "adult" and "dark" DOFP supposedly was. The movie ended with a cloying stupid "everyone lives" ending along with the so called villain in that was a midget who is so unbelievable weak, the entirely of the movie is based about STOPPING A WOMAN (MYSTIQUE) FROM SHOOTING HIM IN THE HEAD/KILLING HIM BECAUSE HE WAS SO DAMN WEAK.Plus the writer didn't even have enough confidence in Midget Trask as a Villain, they literally have to bring back both Stryker (for the SECOND time and Trask himself was too similar to in this movie) and Magneto for the FOURTH time. And DOFP came about to fix the shitty FOX-Men messed up timeline from the last couple of disasters like X-men Origins and X3. Logan was just a cheap blood/gore fest cash in and nothing special or gamechanging (more in the same vein as 300, Kick-Ass, etc.). Wolverine looked like Mel Gibson, the main villain was forgettable, rubbish with an terrible accent and Laura was a cheap attempt at rehashing a hit-girl type of killer. lol..look at an mcu low IQ fanboy rewriting logan and dofp because their own movies can't compete or compare. people have spoken. mcu sucks compared to these movies.
LOL...HATING DOFP does not change the fact it is superior to the mcu movies.
calling logan cheap.....mcu has so much money and all their movies look like cartoons. LMAO.
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Post by summers8 on Jul 21, 2018 17:56:16 GMT
wait... a midget? is that an insult to dwarf people? WOW....Some of you mcu fans sinks to new lows everyday. calling the great and extremely talented peter dinklarge a midget because he is a dwarf. I put this insult on the same level as when formersamhd used to mock slavery and the holocaust.
Funny thing with Peter, he gave a compelling performance as Trask, you understood his point of view on the mutant problem, his dwarfness was not even noticeable because he played the role with so much boldness and conviction.
so sad, it just shows how awful mcu movies are. their fans result to this type of inhumane insults.I hate to say this but klienreturns or whatever his name is needs to be banned. that is highly offensive to dwarf people. wow....but in a way it fits, the worst fans usually have the worst movies. mcu has the worst movies so klienreturns is a fan...obviously.
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Post by hobowar on Jul 21, 2018 18:08:56 GMT
At this point only Nolan can top Nolan. Joss Whedon, Sam Raimi, James Gunn, Shane Black and Patty Jenkins can make better movies than Nolan in their sleep.
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Post by summers8 on Jul 21, 2018 18:25:33 GMT
At this point only Nolan can top Nolan. Joss Whedon, Sam Raimi, James Gunn, Shane Black and Patty Jenkins can make better movies than Nolan in their sleep. just not with mcu movies.
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