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Post by poelzig on Sept 1, 2018 1:51:31 GMT
In a thousand years, assuming something like human civilization still exists, the United States of America will likely no longer be around, or be around in a recognizable form. And at that point, people will regard the landing on the moon as a human accomplishment, not a national one. Gosling and Chazelle are being forward looking and mature about this issue. You whiners? Not so much. Really? So will slavery also be a human shame as opposed to a national one? How about Hitler's atrocities? You ready to take your share of blame for that since, you know, you and he are both humans and what not? Way to go fatass5. Trying to wipe out all the Jews was not cool bro. You're another one of those ridiculous white liberal posters that seems like a caricature. Do your arms constantly hurt from all the patting yourself on the back you do? Do you think it's possible you may one day make a post that's not pathetic virtue signalling?
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 1, 2018 12:11:11 GMT
Really? So will slavery also be a human shame as opposed to a national one? How about Hitler's atrocities? You ready to take your share of blame for that since, you know, you and he are both humans and what not? Way to go fatass5. Trying to wipe out all the Jews was not cool bro. Good god, you are so fucking stupid and batshit crazy that you can't even make a logical link from one thought to another. It's like your entire brain is one rabid right wing random sentence generator. Wipe the foam off your mouth and have a cookie or something.
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Post by barfholomew on Sept 1, 2018 12:38:24 GMT
WTF. smh. The moon landing was an American achievement. If the rest of the world wants to be a part of the celebration, they are certainly welcome to join, but to disrespect the USA by omitting the planting of the American flag ... please go fuck yourselves. Strange, I thought that the Saturn V rocket, that got the Apollo 11 mission on the moon, was designed by a German scientist?
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Sept 1, 2018 13:25:40 GMT
They should show it, they should also show them knocking it over as soon as they left and it turning white as if we're surrendering to any aliens who come along.
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Post by mecano04 on Sept 1, 2018 21:21:35 GMT
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Sept 1, 2018 23:16:14 GMT
I mean if your making a biopic on a historical event it does seem weird to leave that part out.
Granted I think the cult worship over that flag is fucking stupid too, but still it's something documented from that great moment in human history.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Sept 3, 2018 10:28:28 GMT
LOL @ this thread.
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Post by Caesium137 on Sept 3, 2018 11:11:16 GMT
I hate that the plague of modern politics and correctness has creeped so far into the body of Hollywood movie making that it is now an infectious disease with no known cure. Hate it.
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 3, 2018 12:52:06 GMT
In a thousand years, assuming something like human civilization still exists, the United States of America will likely no longer be around, or be around in a recognizable form. And at that point, people will regard the landing on the moon as a human accomplishment, not a national one. Gosling and Chazelle are being forward looking and mature about this issue. You whiners? Not so much. Oh shut the fuck up, ya pansy.
I was going to ask if any liberal could actually defend this, thinking it's pretty indefensible. But here you are. Jesus, you are embarrassing to the species.
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Post by spooner5020 on Sept 3, 2018 15:09:29 GMT
In a thousand years, assuming something like human civilization still exists, the United States of America will likely no longer be around, or be around in a recognizable form. And at that point, people will regard the landing on the moon as a human accomplishment, not a national one. Gosling and Chazelle are being forward looking and mature about this issue. You whiners? Not so much. Oh shut the fuck up, ya pansy.
I was going to ask if any liberal could actually defend this, thinking it's pretty indefensible. But here you are. Jesus, you are embarrassing to the species.
Please ignore faustus5. He seems to be a brain dead liberal troll. He called me out on having an “OPINION” for not wanting Zendaya as Ariel in the live action remake.
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Post by faustus5 on Sept 3, 2018 15:31:27 GMT
Oh shut the fuck up, ya pansy.
But here you are. Jesus, you are embarrassing to the species.
So classy! So intelligent! So well thought out! Exactly what one ought to expect from the knuckle-dragging right. And yet, you couldn't articulate why if your sorry life depended on it.
The fucking flag is in the damn movie--grow about it. There's just no flag-planting scene for idiots like you to jerk off to. You'll have to bust your nut over the sight of it in the background, where it belongs.
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Post by brownstones on Sept 3, 2018 16:21:53 GMT
deadline.com/2018/08/first-man-flag-controversy-damien-chazelle-response-1202455597/Here is Chazelle’s statement: In “First Man” I show the American flag standing on the lunar surface, but the flag being physically planted into the surface is one of several moments of the Apollo 11 lunar EVA that I chose not to focus upon. To address the question of whether this was a political statement, the answer is no. My goal with this movie was to share with audiences the unseen, unknown aspects of America’s mission to the moon — particularly Neil Armstrong’s personal saga and what he may have been thinking and feeling during those famous few hours. I wanted the primary focus in that scene to be on Neil’s solitary moments on the moon — his point of view as he first exited the LEM, his time spent at Little West Crater, the memories that may have crossed his mind during his lunar EVA. This was a feat beyond imagination; it was truly a giant leap for mankind. This film is about one of the most extraordinary accomplishments not only in American history, but in human history. My hope is that by digging under the surface and humanizing the icon, we can better understand just how difficult, audacious and heroic this moment really was. Here is the Armstrong-Hanson statement: We’ve read a number of comments about the film today and specifically about the absence of the flag planting scene, made largely by people who haven’t seen the movie. As we’ve seen it multiple times, we thought maybe we should weigh in. This is a film that focuses on what you don’t know about Neil Armstrong. It’s a film that focuses on things you didn’t see or may not remember about Neil’s journey to the moon. The filmmakers spent years doing extensive research to get at the man behind the myth, to get at the story behind the story. It’s a movie that gives you unique insight into the Armstrong family and fallen American Heroes like Elliot See and Ed White. It’s a very personal movie about our dad’s journey, seen through his eyes. This story is human and it is universal. Of course, it celebrates an America achievement. It also celebrates an achievement “for all mankind,” as it says on the plaque Neil and Buzz left on the moon. It is a story about an ordinary man who makes profound sacrifices and suffers through intense loss in order to achieve the impossible. Although Neil didn’t see himself that way, he was an American hero. He was also an engineer and a pilot, a father and a friend, a man who suffered privately through great tragedies with incredible grace. This is why, though there are numerous shots of the American flag on the moon, the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows. In short, we do not feel this movie is anti-American in the slightest. Quite the opposite. But don’t take our word for it. We’d encourage everyone to go see this remarkable film and see for themselves.
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Post by Xcalatë on Sept 3, 2018 17:46:14 GMT
well that is some BS.
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Sept 3, 2018 23:43:34 GMT
BS = Stuff I wouldn't believe even it were told to me in a face to face conversation
This movie, I was aware of, but even with generally positive critical reception, it wasn't on my radar. Threads like this and the clear majority of comments on it have changed that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 23:55:40 GMT
deadline.com/2018/08/first-man-flag-controversy-damien-chazelle-response-1202455597/Here is Chazelle’s statement: In “First Man” I show the American flag standing on the lunar surface, but the flag being physically planted into the surface is one of several moments of the Apollo 11 lunar EVA that I chose not to focus upon. To address the question of whether this was a political statement, the answer is no. My goal with this movie was to share with audiences the unseen, unknown aspects of America’s mission to the moon — particularly Neil Armstrong’s personal saga and what he may have been thinking and feeling during those famous few hours. I wanted the primary focus in that scene to be on Neil’s solitary moments on the moon — his point of view as he first exited the LEM, his time spent at Little West Crater, the memories that may have crossed his mind during his lunar EVA. This was a feat beyond imagination; it was truly a giant leap for mankind. This film is about one of the most extraordinary accomplishments not only in American history, but in human history. My hope is that by digging under the surface and humanizing the icon, we can better understand just how difficult, audacious and heroic this moment really was. Here is the Armstrong-Hanson statement: We’ve read a number of comments about the film today and specifically about the absence of the flag planting scene, made largely by people who haven’t seen the movie. As we’ve seen it multiple times, we thought maybe we should weigh in. This is a film that focuses on what you don’t know about Neil Armstrong. It’s a film that focuses on things you didn’t see or may not remember about Neil’s journey to the moon. The filmmakers spent years doing extensive research to get at the man behind the myth, to get at the story behind the story. It’s a movie that gives you unique insight into the Armstrong family and fallen American Heroes like Elliot See and Ed White. It’s a very personal movie about our dad’s journey, seen through his eyes. This story is human and it is universal. Of course, it celebrates an America achievement. It also celebrates an achievement “for all mankind,” as it says on the plaque Neil and Buzz left on the moon. It is a story about an ordinary man who makes profound sacrifices and suffers through intense loss in order to achieve the impossible. Although Neil didn’t see himself that way, he was an American hero. He was also an engineer and a pilot, a father and a friend, a man who suffered privately through great tragedies with incredible grace. This is why, though there are numerous shots of the American flag on the moon, the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows. In short, we do not feel this movie is anti-American in the slightest. Quite the opposite. But don’t take our word for it. We’d encourage everyone to go see this remarkable film and see for themselves. That's a bit different from Gosling's virtue signaling.
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Post by brownstones on Sept 4, 2018 1:20:30 GMT
deadline.com/2018/08/first-man-flag-controversy-damien-chazelle-response-1202455597/Here is Chazelle’s statement: In “First Man” I show the American flag standing on the lunar surface, but the flag being physically planted into the surface is one of several moments of the Apollo 11 lunar EVA that I chose not to focus upon. To address the question of whether this was a political statement, the answer is no. My goal with this movie was to share with audiences the unseen, unknown aspects of America’s mission to the moon — particularly Neil Armstrong’s personal saga and what he may have been thinking and feeling during those famous few hours. I wanted the primary focus in that scene to be on Neil’s solitary moments on the moon — his point of view as he first exited the LEM, his time spent at Little West Crater, the memories that may have crossed his mind during his lunar EVA. This was a feat beyond imagination; it was truly a giant leap for mankind. This film is about one of the most extraordinary accomplishments not only in American history, but in human history. My hope is that by digging under the surface and humanizing the icon, we can better understand just how difficult, audacious and heroic this moment really was. Here is the Armstrong-Hanson statement: We’ve read a number of comments about the film today and specifically about the absence of the flag planting scene, made largely by people who haven’t seen the movie. As we’ve seen it multiple times, we thought maybe we should weigh in. This is a film that focuses on what you don’t know about Neil Armstrong. It’s a film that focuses on things you didn’t see or may not remember about Neil’s journey to the moon. The filmmakers spent years doing extensive research to get at the man behind the myth, to get at the story behind the story. It’s a movie that gives you unique insight into the Armstrong family and fallen American Heroes like Elliot See and Ed White. It’s a very personal movie about our dad’s journey, seen through his eyes. This story is human and it is universal. Of course, it celebrates an America achievement. It also celebrates an achievement “for all mankind,” as it says on the plaque Neil and Buzz left on the moon. It is a story about an ordinary man who makes profound sacrifices and suffers through intense loss in order to achieve the impossible. Although Neil didn’t see himself that way, he was an American hero. He was also an engineer and a pilot, a father and a friend, a man who suffered privately through great tragedies with incredible grace. This is why, though there are numerous shots of the American flag on the moon, the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows. In short, we do not feel this movie is anti-American in the slightest. Quite the opposite. But don’t take our word for it. We’d encourage everyone to go see this remarkable film and see for themselves. That's a bit different from Gosling's virtue signaling.
well that's possibly how Gosling interpreted the role for himself, as a person who saw this task of going to the moon as not just an accomplishment for the US but for mankind, yeah there might be a strong tinge of political viewpoints in his statements with a word like "borders", but the idea is still present in both
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 4, 2018 1:22:48 GMT
I don't think I'll have a big problem with it but it does seem silly to me to leave out one of the most memorable images in history and I don't care what their reasoning is.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 4, 2018 1:42:35 GMT
Perhaps they'll add a new scene inserted on the DVD...
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 4, 2018 1:51:11 GMT
That's a bit different from Gosling's virtue signaling.
well that's possibly how Gosling interpreted the role for himself, as a person who saw this task of going to the moon as not just an accomplishment for the US but for mankind, yeah there might be a strong tinge of political viewpoints in his statements with a word like "borders", but the idea is still present in both
"That's one small step for MAN, one giant leap for MANKIND" -Neil Armstrong
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Post by kuatorises on Sept 4, 2018 14:31:35 GMT
Oh shut the fuck up, ya pansy.
But here you are. Jesus, you are embarrassing to the species.
So classy! So intelligent! So well thought out! Exactly what one ought to expect from the knuckle-dragging right. And yet, you couldn't articulate why if your sorry life depended on it.
The fucking flag is in the damn movie--grow about it. There's just no flag-planting scene for idiots like you to jerk off to. You'll have to bust your nut over the sight of it in the background, where it belongs.
I voted for Hillary, you walking liberal cliché.
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