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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 3, 2018 21:18:29 GMT
It's also one of the least liked Spider-Man films, to date people debate whether or not it or TASM 2 were worse. I loved it. Not sure who you were talking to. Well it's definitely not a universally loved film let's keep it at that.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 3, 2018 21:19:35 GMT
The first two Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies had a decent percentage of creative input from Marvel executives including Kevin Feige, of the studios Marvel had worked with before creating their own Sony allowed them the most say with the first two Raimi Spider-Mans. And in case you didn't know, Raimi has praised the MCU in the past as well as Kevin Feige. If the MCU logo was attached to Venom reactions would be no different, neither the first season of Iron Fist or The Inhumans were received well despite being part of the MCU. Nah, Disney was just late mailing the checks. So how come nobody went back on their statements and change their tune on them?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Oct 3, 2018 21:22:10 GMT
Nah, Disney was just late mailing the checks. So how come nobody went back on their statements and change their tune on them? They were down at the bank!
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Post by blockbusted on Oct 3, 2018 21:34:34 GMT
Also, being more memorable means jack sh!t since ‘Fant4stic’ is memorable for being an utterly irredeemable fiasco. you should get rid of your hate boner for that movie, pal. You still come up with it obsessively every time unasked and unrelated since IMDb times - it's getting unhealthy. Because it’s THE worst film to have a budget of $100 million or over. Things like this must be remembered so the same thing doesn’t happen again.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 3, 2018 21:40:57 GMT
Nah, Disney was just late mailing the checks. So how come nobody went back on their statements and change their tune on them? By then it was too late, so they made up for it with the Black Panther RT score.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 3, 2018 21:55:13 GMT
good to know, Dreddio. Do you have a quote for this, or is this just another case of your vivid imagination in lieu of facts? Show don't tell. I'm waiting... linkYou liked thenewnexus' comment about it being better than most MCU movies. wow impressive how meticulously you follow my likes, but your conclusion does not follow from the premise. I liked his argument that the film is at least not a comedy which is a good point. iFan4 is bad and a mess, most MCU films are mediocre and formulaic. What's better is a matter of personal taste. Thus, if you got nothing else, you got nothing and misrepresented my nuanced views.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 3, 2018 22:43:41 GMT
linkYou liked thenewnexus' comment about it being better than most MCU movies. wow impressive how meticulously you follow my likes, but your conclusion does not follow from the premise. I liked his argument that the film is at least not a comedy which is a good point. iFan4 is bad and a mess, most MCU films are mediocre and formulaic. What's better is a matter of personal taste. Thus, if you got nothing else, you got nothing and misrepresented my nuanced views. Nah Jimmy, not following just took notice then and remembered. I figured it wouldn't totally agree with thenewnexus' post but only to a certain extent. How's the wedding going with Gretchen? Can't wait for season 5 of You're The Worst.
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 4, 2018 3:26:25 GMT
Very convincing. If you believe it, it's not a lie. you must be fun at parties. The suit's AI communicating with Peter is also a clever way to bring about the character's constant chatter with himself from the source material without coming off as forced or fake. It's not clever at all. It was a really stupid gimmick and lazy writing. As this video proves (see the 6:00 to 7:10 mark), there were much better ways to do it without resorting to the really stupid gimmick and lazy writing of having a 1-dimensional character talk to himself for 50% of the movie.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 4, 2018 4:32:22 GMT
The suit's AI communicating with Peter is also a clever way to bring about the character's constant chatter with himself from the source material without coming off as forced or fake. It's not clever at all. It was a really stupid gimmick and lazy writing. As this video proves (see the 6:00 to 7:10 mark), there were much better ways to do it without resorting to the really stupid gimmick and lazy writing of having a 1-dimensional character talk to himself for 50% of the movie. It's all subjective in the end, I liked it and thought it was a nice touch as did others, also despite the criticisms the uploader to the video you share has on the films they're not calling the movie bad on its own, which is quite a bit different from your perspective calling it one of the "worst superhero movies ever made" and the "worst Spider-Man movie ever made". But I give credit where its needed, at least you shared the opinion of somebody who actually has *seen* the movie, you watched a leaked version online and watched it in chunks, and heck you still say the opening scene was almost ten minutes of "found footage" when its barely that at all.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 4, 2018 4:39:12 GMT
It's not clever at all. It was a really stupid gimmick and lazy writing. As this video proves (see the 6:00 to 7:10 mark), there were much better ways to do it without resorting to the really stupid gimmick and lazy writing of having a 1-dimensional character talk to himself for 50% of the movie. It's all subjective in the end, I liked it and thought it was a nice touch as did others, also despite the criticisms the uploader to the video you share has on the films they're not calling the movie bad on its own, which is quite a bit different from your perspective calling it one of the "worst superhero movies ever made" and the "worst Spider-Man movie ever made". But I give credit where its needed, at least you shared the opinion of somebody who actually has *seen* the movie, you watched a leaked version online and watched it in chunks, and heck you still say the opening scene was almost ten minutes of "found footage" when its barely that at all. Nah, he doesn't even need to've seen it. I never saw it, but I saw Infinity War and despised Holland; he in no way aligns with my expectations of the character, aesthetically or in terms of his squeaky, cloying performances.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 4, 2018 4:40:40 GMT
SM3 is still the highest grossing SM film. It made more than SM:H did, without even adjusting for inflation. Meaning it sold more tickets, because more people liked it. It's also one of the least liked Spider-Man films, to date people debate whether or not it or TASM 2 were worse. Nah, only revisionist MCU-loving hipsters debate that. Everyone with a brain and two eyes can see that Holland is the worst.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 4, 2018 4:41:38 GMT
It's also one of the least liked Spider-Man films, to date people debate whether or not it or TASM 2 were worse. Nah, only revisionist MCU-loving hipsters debate that. Everyone with a brain and two eyes can see that Holland is the worst. Having fun pandering to DC-Fan and Summers8 there Colden
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 4, 2018 4:49:40 GMT
Nah, only revisionist MCU-loving hipsters debate that. Everyone with a brain and two eyes can see that Holland is the worst. Having fun pandering to DC-Fan and Summers8 there Colden I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Oct 4, 2018 9:45:39 GMT
They made Spider-Man 2 so they can. The problem is the current jackass's at Sony have lost their god-damned mind and been dropping the ball lately. I mean look at what they did with Ghostbusters
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Post by DC-Fan on Oct 4, 2018 17:50:38 GMT
Not true though congrats in buying into this media bs. sony still made the best spiderman movies. also stamp the mcu logo on venom and see how different the reaction will be neither the first season of Iron Fist or The Inhumans were received well despite being part of the MCU. Another invalid and failed attempt to debunk the fact that the movie critics are heavily-biased in favor of MCU. It's a different group of critics that reviews TV shows vs movies. Just like a different group of voters vote for the Emmys vs the Oscars. The movie critics are always heavily-biased in favor of MCU so if Howard the Duck had an MCU logo at the beginning of the movie, the movie critics would say Howard the Duck is the best CBM ever made. The TV critics are a different group so the TV critics are willing to give lower ratings to Iron Fist and Inhumans.
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Post by sostie on Oct 4, 2018 17:56:27 GMT
neither the first season of Iron Fist or The Inhumans were received well despite being part of the MCU. The movie critics are always heavily-biased in favor of MCU Crazy I know, but ever considered the possibility that a lot of people may just actually like the MCU films more than you do.
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Post by bud47 on Oct 4, 2018 18:03:51 GMT
neither the first season of Iron Fist or The Inhumans were received well despite being part of the MCU. Another invalid and failed attempt to debunk the fact that the movie critics are heavily-biased in favor of MCU. It's a different group of critics that reviews TV shows vs movies. Just like a different group of voters vote for the Emmys vs the Oscars. The movie critics are always heavily-biased in favor of MCU so if Howard the Duck had an MCU logo at the beginning of the movie, the movie critics would say Howard the Duck is the best CBM ever made. The TV critics are a different group so the TV critics are willing to give lower ratings to Iron Fist and Inhumans. That's a little extreme. Howard The Duck may not be the best CBM movie, but I'm sure they'd rate it just below The Dark Knight. That darn MCU logo and everything...
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 4, 2018 18:37:55 GMT
neither the first season of Iron Fist or The Inhumans were received well despite being part of the MCU. Another invalid and failed attempt to debunk the fact that the movie critics are heavily-biased in favor of MCU. It's a different group of critics that reviews TV shows vs movies. Just like a different group of voters vote for the Emmys vs the Oscars. The movie critics are always heavily-biased in favor of MCU so if Howard the Duck had an MCU logo at the beginning of the movie, the movie critics would say Howard the Duck is the best CBM ever made. The TV critics are a different group so the TV critics are willing to give lower ratings to Iron Fist and Inhumans. Actually the line between film and television criticism is more blurred now than it was some years ago, so even if they're not obligated to critique something the critic can still share their view on any series or movie on their social media postings and pending on their level of experience and popularity and whether or not they are registered on the platforms their opinion can be counted for on certain aggregators like Rotten Tomatoes. Inhumans and Iron Fist received low ratings because they just were not up to the standard of other programs based on comic properties were being held to, but I'm confused - you liked them, so why don't you have a bone to pick with the naysayers of them? You can't call them shills for competitors because it comes from the same house of ideas you cite to having biased film approval and a number of these critics who disliked Iron Fist and Inumans praised other MCU related content. Howard The Duck came out in the 1980's, nobody would care if the MCU logo was attached to it back then because Marvel was just a comics company and nothing more, comic based films were not easy to come by back then either and there was no internet so there is no reason to claim it would've fared better had such a logo been stamped onto it in any way.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Oct 5, 2018 6:00:56 GMT
Another invalid and failed attempt to debunk the fact that the movie critics are heavily-biased in favor of MCU. It's a different group of critics that reviews TV shows vs movies. Just like a different group of voters vote for the Emmys vs the Oscars. The movie critics are always heavily-biased in favor of MCU so if Howard the Duck had an MCU logo at the beginning of the movie, the movie critics would say Howard the Duck is the best CBM ever made. The TV critics are a different group so the TV critics are willing to give lower ratings to Iron Fist and Inhumans. Actually the line between film and television criticism is more blurred now than it was some years ago, so even if they're not obligated to critique something the critic can still share their view on any series or movie on their social media postings and pending on their level of experience and popularity and whether or not they are registered on the platforms their opinion can be counted for on certain aggregators like Rotten Tomatoes. Inhumans and Iron Fist received low ratings because they just were not up to the standard of other programs based on comic properties were being held to, but I'm confused - you liked them, so why don't you have a bone to pick with the naysayers of them? You can't call them shills for competitors because it comes from the same house of ideas you cite to having biased film approval and a number of these critics who disliked Iron Fist and Inumans praised other MCU related content. Howard The Duck came out in the 1980's, nobody would care if the MCU logo was attached to it back then because Marvel was just a comics company and nothing more, comic based films were not easy to come by back then either and there was no internet so there is no reason to claim it would've fared better had such a logo been stamped onto it in any way.
Your unbelievably literal response to DC-Fan's hilarious and on-point Howard the Duck line legit cracked me up. Thanks!
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 5, 2018 6:09:24 GMT
Actually the line between film and television criticism is more blurred now than it was some years ago, so even if they're not obligated to critique something the critic can still share their view on any series or movie on their social media postings and pending on their level of experience and popularity and whether or not they are registered on the platforms their opinion can be counted for on certain aggregators like Rotten Tomatoes. Inhumans and Iron Fist received low ratings because they just were not up to the standard of other programs based on comic properties were being held to, but I'm confused - you liked them, so why don't you have a bone to pick with the naysayers of them? You can't call them shills for competitors because it comes from the same house of ideas you cite to having biased film approval and a number of these critics who disliked Iron Fist and Inumans praised other MCU related content. Howard The Duck came out in the 1980's, nobody would care if the MCU logo was attached to it back then because Marvel was just a comics company and nothing more, comic based films were not easy to come by back then either and there was no internet so there is no reason to claim it would've fared better had such a logo been stamped onto it in any way.
Your unbelievably literal response to DC-Fan 's hilarious and on-point Howard the Duck line legit cracked me up. Thanks! And he'll no doubt like your post and think you totally serious not realizing that your actually pulling his leg
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