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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Oct 8, 2018 19:33:19 GMT
Do you believe in this prophecy? if so the drowned god represents Euron Greyjoy and we all know now Aegon is jon snow this is newest theory that euron will kill Aegon Targaryen (jon snow ) in a surprise battle
personally i dont like this one bit.
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Post by Nightman on Oct 9, 2018 20:46:36 GMT
In the show, yes, I can see Euron vs Jon. In the books, I'm still holding out hope for Drogon battling a yuge mf'ing kraken. Or the Drowned god himself making an appearance and taking over.
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 10, 2018 1:51:00 GMT
Nah. I'm not much more for the Greyjoys (outside of Theon and his sister) in the books or the show. It was a chore for me to read about them in the books because their dialogue consists of: "Something, something, Drown God....something, something, something, Drown God..." It's hard for me to take them very seriously.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 10, 2018 2:41:36 GMT
I think at least in the show Euron is not such a developed character and consequently important enough to kill Jon.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 10, 2018 8:44:26 GMT
I think at least in the show Euron is not such a developed character and consequently important enough to kill Jon. This implies a fairly unsubstantiated rule that an important character ought only to be dealt with by another important one. Thorne was no more developed or important than Euron. The Freys who killed Catelyn and Robb were of the same calibre. King Robert was murdered by a pig. Jon could die under a flock of wights or shot by some random crossbow man, like Richard the Lionheart. I have no idea where Euron is going, though. I could see GRRM complete the Odysseus parallel by having him slaughter a pretender to Cersei's hand which then brings the speculation of Jon entering marriage negotiations with her. King in the North with Queen in the South, now that would be an interesting turn. Maybe that's what they will be discussing in King's Landing.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 10, 2018 9:37:30 GMT
I think at least in the show Euron is not such a developed character and consequently important enough to kill Jon. This implies a fairly unsubstantiated rule that an important character ought only to be dealt with by another important one. Thorne was no more developed or important than Euron. The Freys who killed Catelyn and Robb were of the same calibre. King Robert was murdered by a pig. Jon could die under a flock of wights or shot by some random crossbow man, like Richard the Lionheart. I have no idea where Euron is going, though. I could see GRRM complete the Odysseus parallel by having him slaughter a pretender to Cersei's hand which then brings the speculation of Jon entering marriage negotiations with her. King in the North with Queen in the South, now that would be an interesting turn. Maybe that's what they will be discussing in King's Landing.
Snow wasn't killed. It was just a silly drama. Shouldn't have happened in the first place. The cheap trope will remain blemish on the show forever. Freys+Bolton+Lannister murdered the Stark boy and his mother. I think both sides were fairly matched. That said it's not any rule but merely a thing that happens too often. If one of the most important character dies in the last moment then it is more often by another important character (NK will be that. Euron could be that if he is carrying out orders of Cersei). That said if an important character dies before the final moment, anyone can kill him or her.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 10, 2018 9:51:05 GMT
Snow wasn't killed. It was just a silly drama. Shouldn't have happened in the first place. The cheap trope will remain blemish on the show forever. He was killed. Yes, it was silly, but the blemish was to bring him back: It's not the show's decision but the artistic judgement of that fat pleb with a baseball cap. I don't see Jon dying, though. His presence at the very end of filming speaks for survival and I guess he will retire and leave power to his sister. It would be in line with the character. I suppose Euron doesn't make it to the end.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 10, 2018 10:18:39 GMT
I like the idea of Jon being left without the sustenance of whatever brought him back. We could see him wither at the end and realise that he's not going to last, a little like Frodo in Lord of the Rings.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Oct 10, 2018 16:27:38 GMT
This implies a fairly unsubstantiated rule that an important character ought only to be dealt with by another important one. Thorne was no more developed or important than Euron. The Freys who killed Catelyn and Robb were of the same calibre. King Robert was murdered by a pig. Jon could die under a flock of wights or shot by some random crossbow man, like Richard the Lionheart. I have no idea where Euron is going, though. I could see GRRM complete the Odysseus parallel by having him slaughter a pretender to Cersei's hand which then brings the speculation of Jon entering marriage negotiations with her. King in the North with Queen in the South, now that would be an interesting turn. Maybe that's what they will be discussing in King's Landing.
Snow wasn't killed. It was just a silly drama. Shouldn't have happened in the first place. The cheap trope will remain blemish on the show forever. Freys+Bolton+Lannister murdered the Stark boy and his mother. I think both sides were fairly matched. That said it's not any rule but merely a thing that happens too often. If one of the most important character dies in the last moment then it is more often by another important character (NK will be that. Euron could be that if he is carrying out orders of Cersei). That said if an important character dies before the final moment, anyone can kill him or her. Looking at the cersei/jon photo i noticed something the solider on the right of jon is the clothing/armor , lannister? targaryen? or stark ? looks like scales design to me...but im not sure could reveal something about the meeting and who is there
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Oct 10, 2018 16:28:47 GMT
In the show, yes, I can see Euron vs Jon. In the books, I'm still holding out hope for Drogon battling a yuge mf'ing kraken. Or the Drowned god himself making an appearance and taking over. that would be something!!! Release the Kraken!!..LOL
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 10, 2018 17:10:45 GMT
Looking at the cersei/jon photo i noticed something the solider on the right of jon is the clothing/armor , lannister? targaryen? or stark ? The soldiers are Cersei's guards.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Oct 10, 2018 20:47:12 GMT
Looking at the cersei/jon photo i noticed something the solider on the right of jon is the clothing/armor , lannister? targaryen? or stark ? The soldiers are Cersei's guards. wow i dont remember them looking like that last season , she took off the lion Armour she has her own design now meeting with jon snow either she throws tyrion under the bus IF jon confronts her for not sending help OR this is indeed a marriage alliance between jon and cersei? i highly doubt it but i think its about sansa , lannister soldiers do attack winterfell and they do take sansa ,this happens while jon and dany fighting zombies , after WW war is won and dany dies jon finds out what happened while he was away ...cersei and jon meet . cersei wont let sansa go without a deal . will say sansa is a lannister through marriage to tyrion could it be that is why jon executes tyrion??
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 11, 2018 15:23:25 GMT
Snow wasn't killed. It was just a silly drama. Shouldn't have happened in the first place. The cheap trope will remain blemish on the show forever. Freys+Bolton+Lannister murdered the Stark boy and his mother. I think both sides were fairly matched. That said it's not any rule but merely a thing that happens too often. If one of the most important character dies in the last moment then it is more often by another important character (NK will be that. Euron could be that if he is carrying out orders of Cersei). That said if an important character dies before the final moment, anyone can kill him or her. Looking at the cersei/jon photo i noticed something the solider on the right of jon is the clothing/armor , lannister? targaryen? or stark ? looks like scales design to me...but im not sure could reveal something about the meeting and who is there Can't tell quite by looking at that. Are there real world Targaryen fans? I find it impossible to like that House but I have seen on Reddit Freefolks community that there are lovers of House Targaryen. Sorry, but that house never fascinated me. Ok, so they have command over dragons? But that's not as great as things possessed by Lann the Clever or any of the great Starks. Targaryens are boring.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 11, 2018 15:39:49 GMT
Looking at the cersei/jon photo i noticed something the solider on the right of jon is the clothing/armor , lannister? targaryen? or stark ? looks like scales design to me...but im not sure could reveal something about the meeting and who is there Can't tell quite by looking at that. Are there real world Targaryen fans? I'm sure there are. Here's one I trust to ride a fire breathing pillow at night:
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Oct 14, 2018 0:12:22 GMT
Can't tell quite by looking at that. Are there real world Targaryen fans? I'm sure there are. Here's one I trust to ride a fire breathing pillow at night: LOL omg I missed him !!! Haven't seen any videos of him recently lol yeah he is biggest Dany fan in the planet his cute though and makes me laugh lol
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Oct 14, 2018 0:15:52 GMT
Looking at the cersei/jon photo i noticed something the solider on the right of jon is the clothing/armor , lannister? targaryen? or stark ? looks like scales design to me...but im not sure could reveal something about the meeting and who is there Can't tell quite by looking at that. Are there real world Targaryen fans? I find it impossible to like that House but I have seen on Reddit Freefolks community that there are lovers of House Targaryen. Sorry, but that house never fascinated me. Ok, so they have command over dragons? But that's not as great as things possessed by Lann the Clever or any of the great Starks. Targaryens are boring. I remember how cool I thought dragons were early seasons but quickly changed my mind when they started growing lol and you're right having dragons doesn't make anyone a true conqueror if Dany didn't have these dragons would be she be able to talk her way in the position she is today ? Most likely not , she was counting on khal drogo giving her back her home and iron throne until he got sick and once she realized she didn't need him well we all know what happened next
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Post by Nightman on Oct 14, 2018 23:46:30 GMT
Looking at the cersei/jon photo i noticed something the solider on the right of jon is the clothing/armor , lannister? targaryen? or stark ? looks like scales design to me...but im not sure could reveal something about the meeting and who is there Can't tell quite by looking at that. Are there real world Targaryen fans? I find it impossible to like that House but I have seen on Reddit Freefolks community that there are lovers of House Targaryen. Sorry, but that house never fascinated me. Ok, so they have command over dragons? But that's not as great as things possessed by Lann the Clever or any of the great Starks. Targaryens are boring. The historical Targs are interesting, anything but boring. Why compare the exploits of one person, Lann the Clever, to an entire family? Especially since all Lann did was bang some women and steal their House. Not sure how that is less boring than using dragons to conquer a kingdom. The Targs aren't my favorite House, but that is an odd criticism.
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 15, 2018 0:20:33 GMT
Can't tell quite by looking at that. Are there real world Targaryen fans? I find it impossible to like that House but I have seen on Reddit Freefolks community that there are lovers of House Targaryen. Sorry, but that house never fascinated me. Ok, so they have command over dragons? But that's not as great as things possessed by Lann the Clever or any of the great Starks. Targaryens are boring. The historical Targs are interesting, anything but boring. Why compare the exploits of one person, Lann the Clever, to an entire family? Especially since all Lann did was bang some women and steal their House. Not sure how that is less boring than using dragons to conquer a kingdom. The Targs aren't my favorite House, but that is an odd criticism. It's just personal preference in my case. One of the reasons I dislike Targaryens is that they possesses an unfair advantage in form of dragons. Lannisters certainly had to work with their minds to establish themselves and later hold on to their positions. Starks had some advantage in that some of them had warging abilities but for the most part they also achieved their success by their own natural human abilities. I do like some Targaryens though not the House itself.
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Post by Nightman on Oct 15, 2018 0:39:50 GMT
The historical Targs are interesting, anything but boring. Why compare the exploits of one person, Lann the Clever, to an entire family? Especially since all Lann did was bang some women and steal their House. Not sure how that is less boring than using dragons to conquer a kingdom. The Targs aren't my favorite House, but that is an odd criticism. It's just personal preference in my case. One of the reasons I dislike Targaryens is that they possesses an unfair advantage in form of dragons. Lannisters certainly had to work with their minds to establish themselves and later hold on to their positions. Starks had some advantage in that some of them had warging abilities but for the most part they also achieved their success by their own natural human abilities. I do like some Targaryens though not the House itself. I have heard some people say similar things about Targs, but I just never understood that mindset. It's like saying people with gifts should be disliked because they have an unfair advantage over the mediocre. And in reality, the Targs should have been in a higher position than they were. They should have been awash in Valyrian objects and magic, yet they weren't. Dany and Viserys, even as exiles, should never have been in anywhere near as bad a situation. I know the poverty angle tugs on sentimental people's heartstrings and all that, but it would have been a helluva lot more entertaining if they were in a manse somewhere scheming with Aegon from the beginning, and their invasion could have begun several books earlier.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 15, 2018 4:25:29 GMT
It's just personal preference in my case. One of the reasons I dislike Targaryens is that they possesses an unfair advantage in form of dragons. Lannisters certainly had to work with their minds to establish themselves and later hold on to their positions. Starks had some advantage in that some of them had warging abilities but for the most part they also achieved their success by their own natural human abilities. I do like some Targaryens though not the House itself. I have heard some people say similar things about Targs, but I just never understood that mindset. It's like saying people with gifts should be disliked because they have an unfair advantage over the mediocre. And in reality, the Targs should have been in a higher position than they were. They should have been awash in Valyrian objects and magic, yet they weren't. Dany and Viserys, even as exiles, should never have been in anywhere near as bad a situation. I know the poverty angle tugs on sentimental people's heartstrings and all that, but it would have been a helluva lot more entertaining if they were in a manse somewhere scheming with Aegon from the beginning, and their invasion could have begun several books earlier. Targaryens are the super-heroes of the story. This is a strange and apparently purely American phenomenon in which adults keep wallowing in the taste of their 12 year old self. The same goes for the Starks' warging abilities. No matter where you look, the fat baseball fan will have something infantile to jerk off to. Then the egalitarian faction comes along and starts taking them down for their privilege. They're the kind who will tell you that Bob Dylan's is just as good music as Mozart's, presenting lack of taste as a moral principle. There is a good point to be made about the implausibility of Viserys' situation, all designed to leave room for that funny fAegon plot in the books. The Dothraki invasion scheme never made any sense either.
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