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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 8, 2018 21:14:57 GMT
That reads like it was written by an even poorer man's Jordan Peterson
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Post by goz on Nov 8, 2018 21:58:34 GMT
What does an atom consist of? Seems you stopped reading a long time ago. I'm going to go out a teensy weensy bit on a limb (about one micron away from the trunk) and say that my knowledge of physics and chemistry dwarfs yours by several orders of magnitude. Your asking me about atoms is quite hilariously pathetic. This thread is classic Heeeeey. One would think that a poster claiming scientific knowledge of how consciousness surpasses death MIGHT have a clue about such things as mentioned in this thread ( started by her) as 'atoms', what 'energy' is, brain chemicals, hormones and that there are different parts of the 'brain'. With her, I almost feel sorry for someone as limited as her. Almost, if she wasn't such a nasty piece of work, and rely so heavily on ad homs instead of arguments. As previously stated, she is the poster girl for the Dunning Kruger effect, so she should feel very important. edit: It just occurred to me that she won't know what the Dunning Kruger effect and hilariously IF she looks it up, won't understand the significance!
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Post by general313 on Nov 8, 2018 22:06:19 GMT
I'm going to go out a teensy weensy bit on a limb (about one micron away from the trunk) and say that my knowledge of physics and chemistry dwarfs yours by several orders of magnitude. Your asking me about atoms is quite hilariously pathetic. This thread is classic Heeeeey. One would think that a poster claiming scientific knowledge of how consciousness surpasses death MIGHT have a clue about such things as mentioned in this thread ( started by her) as 'atoms', what 'energy' is, brain chemicals, hormones and that there are different parts of the 'brain'. With her, I almost feel sorry for someone as limited as her. Almost, if she wasn't such a nasty piece of work, and rely so heavily on ad homs instead of arguments. As previously stated, she is the poster girl for the Dunning Kruger effect, so she should feel very important. edit: It just occurred to me that she won't know what the Dunning Kruger effect and hilariously IF she looks it up, won't understand the significance! The addition of arrogance along with her ignorance and stupidity is what makes me not feel the least bit sorry for her. Dunning Kruger explains how she is able to maintain that level of arrogance.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 8, 2018 22:09:41 GMT
The inspiration for dream material is not the same as the processes that cause dreaming. An ad-hom slinging simpleton like yourself confabulates the two and concludes that dreams are apparently some sort of radio signal from 'out there'--presumably, in your case, god. You really will sink to the lowest depths of idiocy to coddle your own dream, apparently. Oh, and now suddenly there's a scientist whom you revere--I thought all scientific figures were just easily dismissable 'mere men' to you; but now that you think you've snagged a figure who would credit your hare-brained assertions, suddenly it's schoolgirl crush time. So Tesla's experience was what schooled him, eh? Not 'Divine Inspiration', but real-world research and work? How very enlightened of you to have come far enough to admit that. Now amuse us all, and give us a little dissertation on Tesla , as I want to see you attempt to 'do science' some more. It's funny, and all of us here can always use a good laugh. ^^^The board's scientific genius. Next to you, that's almost too easy
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Post by goz on Nov 8, 2018 22:29:07 GMT
^^^The board's scientific genius. Next to you, that's almost too easy I love her one liners! She sets herself up for yours, so wonderfully!
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Post by amyghost on Nov 8, 2018 22:33:14 GMT
Next to you, that's almost too easy I love her one liners! She sets herself up for yours, so wonderfully! I'm beginning to think she's a masochistic troll. Seriously, could anyone be this stupid and still be able to use a computer? Or for that matter, breathe without the aid of a machine?
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Post by goz on Nov 8, 2018 23:01:32 GMT
I love her one liners! She sets herself up for yours, so wonderfully! I'm beginning to think she's a masochistic troll. Seriously, could anyone be this stupid and still be able to use a computer? Or for that matter, breathe without the aid of a machine? For once, I am going to be kind to Heeeey. Whilst I think that she is one of THE most stupid people who manage to post on these boards ( and a candidate for Dunning Kruger exponent of the year) her manual dexterity is not in question. From previous contact with her over the years I know that in her work which (from what I used to know of what she said on the other board) consisted of typing of manuscripts and documents of some sort...she NEVER makes typos (unlike me) and I also know that she plays the guitar and sings beautifully. I have heard her. ( I think it could have been a ruse) But her voice was lovely. She does however have mind boggling mental and cognitive issues however ,with logic, reading comprehension ( not just repetition) and of course an inability to react to new information due to her overwhelming arrogance and cognitive confirmatory bias.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 10, 2018 14:14:24 GMT
I'm beginning to think she's a masochistic troll. Seriously, could anyone be this stupid and still be able to use a computer? Or for that matter, breathe without the aid of a machine? For once, I am going to be kind to Heeeey. Whilst I think that she is one of THE most stupid people who manage to post on these boards ( and a candidate for Dunning Kruger exponent of the year) her manual dexterity is not in question. From previous contact with her over the years I know that in her work which (from what I used to know of what she said on the other board) consisted of typing of manuscripts and documents of some sort...she NEVER makes typos (unlike me) and I also know that she plays the guitar and sings beautifully. I have heard her. ( I think it could have been a ruse) But her voice was lovely. She does however have mind boggling mental and cognitive issues however ,with logic, reading comprehension ( not just repetition) and of course an inability to react to new information due to her overwhelming arrogance and cognitive confirmatory bias. If the above skillsets for her are true, it just shows that she should have more respect for the human brain. An organ that can host such a myriad of contradictions is an awesome thing indeed; it doesn't require 'god' to make it any more so.
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Post by heeeeey on Nov 10, 2018 14:26:00 GMT
You are so shallow and limited, I don't know why I'm wasting my time. You couldn't be more wrong. I don't care if you have cherry-picked studies that conform to your beliefs. I know enough about atoms and their structure to know that what you say is outright bullshit. Even an atom taken from those 'ashes' continues to give off energy. Energy doesn't die, no matter where it is.You are no more intelligent than those primitives who believe the voices they hear on the radio are little people inside of the radio. In fact, even primitive peoples, especially the aborigines in your own country, are wiser where it concerns consciousness. Every other culture in the world believes in the eternal spirit/consciousness. The mindset you have is unique to the West. Do you actually know what energy is? How does the amorphous 'soul' have 'energy'? T o what is it causing motion or interaction of which molecules, in what?Consciousness which survives bodily death doesn't need molecules, twit.
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Post by heeeeey on Nov 10, 2018 14:27:57 GMT
For once, I am going to be kind to Heeeey. Whilst I think that she is one of THE most stupid people who manage to post on these boards ( and a candidate for Dunning Kruger exponent of the year) her manual dexterity is not in question. From previous contact with her over the years I know that in her work which (from what I used to know of what she said on the other board) consisted of typing of manuscripts and documents of some sort...she NEVER makes typos (unlike me) and I also know that she plays the guitar and sings beautifully. I have heard her. ( I think it could have been a ruse) But her voice was lovely. She does however have mind boggling mental and cognitive issues however ,with logic, reading comprehension ( not just repetition) and of course an inability to react to new information due to her overwhelming arrogance and cognitive confirmatory bias. If the above skillsets for her are true, it just shows that she should have more respect for the human brain. An organ that can host such a myriad of contradictions is an awesome thing indeed; it doesn't require 'god' to make it any more so. I never claimed that the brain isn't a marvel of God's creation, twit Jr.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 10, 2018 14:45:43 GMT
If the above skillsets for her are true, it just shows that she should have more respect for the human brain. An organ that can host such a myriad of contradictions is an awesome thing indeed; it doesn't require 'god' to make it any more so. I never claimed that the brain isn't a marvel of God's creation, twit Jr. I just claimed it isn't, so pay more attention next time willya? Just once it'd be nice if you stopped validating everything I post.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 10, 2018 15:02:04 GMT
Do you actually know what energy is? How does the amorphous 'soul' have 'energy'? T o what is it causing motion or interaction of which molecules, in what?Consciousness which survives bodily death doesn't need molecules, twit. Since you suggest you possess relatively vast knowledge of the state, how about explaining to the rest of us just how this consciousness 'survives'.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 10, 2018 15:08:17 GMT
You see, you already knew the answer. ALL thought, consciousness, memories, dreams, NDE and everything else are seated in the wonderful human brain which sadly dies with us and ALL those things. NOTHING continues except perhaps in the memories of others( and books letters art etc physical evidence left after your existence ceases), if you are lucky. You and the conductors of those studies you rely on have never experienced an NDE, so you don't know jack shit. Your ignorance is unique only to the Western world concerning this topic. Democritus never experienced atoms, but was able to create atomic theory. You don't have to have had direct physical experience of anything to be able to study it. That's a bit like saying a surgeon can't preform heart transplant surgery unless he's had a transplant himself. Your ignorance, sad to say, isn't unique to you, but I do confess you're one of the most voluble about publicly declaring it that I've ever experienced
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Post by heeeeey on Nov 10, 2018 15:52:48 GMT
You and the conductors of those studies you rely on have never experienced an NDE, so you don't know jack shit. Your ignorance is unique only to the Western world concerning this topic. Democritus never experienced atoms, but was able to create atomic theory. You don't have to have had direct physical experience of anything to be able to study it. That's a bit like saying a surgeon can't preform heart transplant surgery unless he's had a transplant himself. Your ignorance, sad to say, isn't unique to you, but I do confess you're one of the most voluble about publicly declaring it that I've ever experienced Maybe that knowledge came to him from his mind. As miraculous as the brain is, it has its limitations, as you and goz have exemplified. The brain doesn't have the circuitry to withstand knowing all there is to know, that would be circuit overload. It's limited to the five senses. If we were all essentially organic robots as you and goz believe, we would have no free will. We would have all the same like, dislikes, abilities, etc. Btw, consciousness and energy are two different things. Change my mind.
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Post by faustus5 on Nov 10, 2018 15:56:22 GMT
If we were all essentially organic robots as you and goz believe, we would have no free will. We would have all the same like, dislikes, abilities, etc. Scientifically and philosophically illiterate claim by Heeeyyy number 347 and counting.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 10, 2018 15:59:11 GMT
I'm sure you've all heard of an NDE (Near Death Experience). The stories I've heard are virtually identical. Atheist asshats say they are caused by the brain because it's 'so terrified' of dying that it makes up a little story to make the unconscious person who is dying 'feel better'. LOL. Have you ever heard of anything more stupid? So I guess people who aren't afraid of dying shouldn't be having them. First of all, if I'm unconscious and ready to become non-existent, unaware of anything around me, why in the hell would I need a little hallucination to make me feel better? Presumably, I wouldn't even know or care one way or another. So why would my brain bother to create this little "hallucination"? Now, I'm sure Goz will pipe in about her car accident where she got knocked out for a few minutes and unconscious, and because she didn't experience anything other-wordly, she concluded that that's how it is when people die. She won't explain why her brain didn't produce a little story to make her feel better though. Btw, the reason that happened is because at no point was she ever officially declared dead. She was just knocked out for a few. The "because it's terrified" part is stupid if anyone says that, but obviously it's simply a series of brain events, because that's what consciousness is period.
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Post by heeeeey on Nov 10, 2018 16:00:17 GMT
If we were all essentially organic robots as you and goz believe, we would have no free will. We would have all the same like, dislikes, abilities, etc. Scientifically and philosophically illiterate claim by Heeeyyy number 347 and counting. Translation: "Derp, derp, derp..."
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 10, 2018 16:02:25 GMT
The brain doesn't have the circuitry to withstand knowing all there is to know, that would be circuit overload. LOL -- when all else fails, just make up some completely arbitrary, incredibly stupid shit.
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Post by heeeeey on Nov 10, 2018 17:05:06 GMT
The brain doesn't have the circuitry to withstand knowing all there is to know, that would be circuit overload. LOL -- when all else fails, just make up some completely arbitrary, incredibly stupid shit. I'm just glad limited non-thinkers don't rule the entire world, and that we had great thinkers and Christ who came here to enlighten some of us. There is so much more to the world than what exists in your limited minds.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Nov 10, 2018 18:33:41 GMT
LOL -- when all else fails, just make up some completely arbitrary, incredibly stupid shit. I'm just glad limited non-thinkers don't rule the entire world, and that we had great thinkers and Christ who came here to enlighten some of us. There is so much more to the world than what exists in your limited minds.
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