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Post by geode on Jan 28, 2019 5:59:52 GMT
The past few years I have seen reports that fewer and fewer Americans identify as being religious. This apparently is most prounced among Millennials. Why do people see less need for religion in their lives? Even people in the oldest demographic in the survey cited below are less religious than these older people were years ago. It is interesting to see how dramatic the difference is by political affiliation. "There’s a sorting in religion and politics: Republicans are becoming considerably more religious than Democrats. Overall, only 30% of Democrats say that being engaged in a religious community is essential for a fulfilling life, while 58% of Republicans do. (The exception to this is African American Democrats, who resemble Republicans in being deeply religious.)" The latest article I have seen: Decline in importance of religion? |
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Post by Aj_June on Jan 28, 2019 7:29:33 GMT
Yes, it seems that there is a gradual decline going on in general level of religiosity among people of America. I guess there are reasons to believe the decline could continue even in the future till America becomes as religious as present-day Europe or even slightly less religious than the present day Europe. I guess unlike Europe there is a significant difference between average religious levels of different ethnic communities. Although even in Europe Muslims are probably more religious than other communities.
I personally believe religion will not fall below a certain level though that level is still far off both in America and the rest of the world that includes low religious societies such as Scandinavian countries and Japan. But people need some sort of philosophical system to satisfy their spiritual needs so may be in the near future we may see the emergence of new philosophical movements.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Jan 28, 2019 7:41:09 GMT
The past few years I have seen reports that fewer and fewer Americans identify as being religious. This apparently is most prounced among Millennials. Why do people see less need for religion in their lives? Even people in the oldest demographic in the survey cited below are less religious than these older people were years ago. It is interesting to see how dramatic the difference is by political affiliation. "There’s a sorting in religion and politics: Republicans are becoming considerably more religious than Democrats. Overall, only 30% of Democrats say that being engaged in a religious community is essential for a fulfilling life, while 58% of Republicans do. (The exception to this is African American Democrats, who resemble Republicans in being deeply religious.)" The latest article I have seen: Decline in importance of religion?Less religion is better. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jan 28, 2019 8:10:17 GMT
What I said elsewhere.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jan 28, 2019 8:13:05 GMT
The past few years I have seen reports that fewer and fewer Americans identify as being religious. This apparently is most prounced among Millennials. Why do people see less need for religion in their lives? Even people in the oldest demographic in the survey cited below are less religious than these older people were years ago. It is interesting to see how dramatic the difference is by political affiliation. "There’s a sorting in religion and politics: Republicans are becoming considerably more religious than Democrats.Overall, only 30% of Democrats say that being engaged in a religious community is essential for a fulfilling life, while 58% of Republicans do. (The exception to this is African American Democrats, who resemble Republicans in being deeply religious.)" The latest article I have seen: Decline in importance of religion? Okay, that part was really funny. |
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Post by thefleetsin on Jan 28, 2019 14:39:03 GMT
it can decline fast enough for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 14:46:45 GMT
Smartphones & internet.
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 28, 2019 15:49:52 GMT
The past few years I have seen reports that fewer and fewer Americans identify as being religious. This apparently is most prounced among Millennials. Why do people see less need for religion in their lives? Even people in the oldest demographic in the survey cited below are less religious than these older people were years ago. It is interesting to see how dramatic the difference is by political affiliation. "There’s a sorting in religion and politics: Republicans are becoming considerably more religious than Democrats. Overall, only 30% of Democrats say that being engaged in a religious community is essential for a fulfilling life, while 58% of Republicans do. (The exception to this is African American Democrats, who resemble Republicans in being deeply religious.)" The latest article I have seen: Decline in importance of religion?Religiosity tends to coincide with education. Conservatives (including African Americans) tend to be less educated and more religious than liberals. And as society becomes more educated, religiosity declines. |
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Post by general313 on Jan 28, 2019 15:53:20 GMT
Are there any prominent Christians that you consider to be the real deal? |
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Post by phludowin on Jan 28, 2019 18:50:59 GMT
The past few years I have seen reports that fewer and fewer Americans identify as being religious. This apparently is most prounced among Millennials. Why do people see less need for religion in their lives? Even people in the oldest demographic in the survey cited below are less religious than these older people were years ago. It is interesting to see how dramatic the difference is by political affiliation. "There’s a sorting in religion and politics: Republicans are becoming considerably more religious than Democrats. Overall, only 30% of Democrats say that being engaged in a religious community is essential for a fulfilling life, while 58% of Republicans do. (The exception to this is African American Democrats, who resemble Republicans in being deeply religious.)" The latest article I have seen: Decline in importance of religion?One problem I have with this article: It's too imprecise. Like when comparing the religiosity of Democrats and Republicans: Are they saying that religiosity in Republicans is increasing, or are they saying that the gap between Democrats and Republicans is increasing, but religiosity is also declining with Republicans? Another thing: 35% is still a minority. About a third of the population. And what religions do people adhere to who are not "Nones"? Progressive religions, or fundamentalist scourges like some forms of Christianity, Islam or Judaism? The article doesn't say, but I'd rather have 20% "Nones" and 80% of adherents to tolerant religions, than 40% "Nones" and 60% adherents to Wahabitism or Evangelicalism. captainbryce mentioned education. But maybe even some educated people want religions that give simple answers. Orientation instead of freedom of choice. Which would be a good basis for fundamentalism. Hopefully I am wrong on this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 19:00:58 GMT
The less religious the better, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jan 28, 2019 19:05:17 GMT
The Internet was certainly a huge factor, though New Atheism (Maher, Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris) also played a role in Millenials turning away from religion. Even before that though, there was definetly a decline in religiosity, as anti-religious musicians like NIN and Marilyn Manson were acheiving mainstream popularity amongst Gen Xers (and of course Maher was also quite popular back then as well)
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Post by Isapop on Jan 28, 2019 19:17:26 GMT
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Post by geode on Jan 29, 2019 8:42:59 GMT
The past few years I have seen reports that fewer and fewer Americans identify as being religious. This apparently is most prounced among Millennials. Why do people see less need for religion in their lives? Even people in the oldest demographic in the survey cited below are less religious than these older people were years ago. It is interesting to see how dramatic the difference is by political affiliation. "There’s a sorting in religion and politics: Republicans are becoming considerably more religious than Democrats. Overall, only 30% of Democrats say that being engaged in a religious community is essential for a fulfilling life, while 58% of Republicans do. (The exception to this is African American Democrats, who resemble Republicans in being deeply religious.)" The latest article I have seen: Decline in importance of religion?One problem I have with this article: It's too imprecise. Like when comparing the religiosity of Democrats and Republicans: Are they saying that religiosity in Republicans is increasing, or are they saying that the gap between Democrats and Republicans is increasing, but religiosity is also declining with Republicans? Another thing: 35% is still a minority. About a third of the population. And what religions do people adhere to who are not "Nones"? Progressive religions, or fundamentalist scourges like some forms of Christianity, Islam or Judaism? The article doesn't say, but I'd rather have 20% "Nones" and 80% of adherents to tolerant religions, than 40% "Nones" and 60% adherents to Wahabitism or Evangelicalism. captainbryce mentioned education. But maybe even some educated people want religions that give simple answers. Orientation instead of freedom of choice. Which would be a good basis for fundamentalism. Hopefully I am wrong on this one. I think a lack of precision comes from the splits by religious sect and political party being a secondary focus of the original study being reported upon here. That study is far more concerned with "family" issues such as how many feel raising a child is affordable. |
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 30, 2019 15:20:54 GMT
Yeah, and they tend to be the most messed up to. God forbid these godless millennials get into power.
because as a general rule... the further someones gets away from God's way of living(basically as sin increases), the worse things tend to get over the long term.
Yeah and that pretty much sums up each political party. those for God(conservatives) and those against Him(liberals).
because in general... liberals are most opposed to Jesus Christ where as conservatives tend to be more inline with His teaching when it comes to moral political views, especially in key moral areas like abortion etc. because like I always say, once a political party fails to get that one right, which is a basic life issue and NOT a "choice", they will be backwards in many other moral areas and that's what's happening as the decade pass with the left and they are becoming more extreme left lately as it's starting to become a battle of good vs evil in some ways and I think some people don't even realize they are on the wrong side.
because one core difference between conservatives and liberals... for conservatives who believe in God, their general morality is based on Christianity(more specifically what the Catholic church teaches) where as liberals think morality is subjective which pretty much boils down to what one "feels" is right which can get people in trouble because after the fall of Adam/Eve humanity no longer see's things properly and not everything we 'feel' is right is actually right. but those godless types don't acknowledge this truth and they rebel against pretty much all authority etc. |
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 30, 2019 16:57:38 GMT
Yeah, and they tend to be the most messed up to. God forbid these godless millennials get into power.
because as a general rule... the further someones gets away from God's way of living(basically as sin increases), the worse things tend to get over the long term.
Can you back any of this up with a respected, responsible source, or did you just pull all of it out of your ass? |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jan 30, 2019 17:11:04 GMT
Yeah, and they tend to be the most messed up to. God forbid these godless millennials get into power.
because as a general rule... the further someones gets away from God's way of living(basically as sin increases), the worse things tend to get over the long term.
Can you back any of this up with a respected, responsible source, or did you just pull all of it out of your ass? Probably because the actual data contradicts what he's saying (countries with low religiousity tend to have lower crime rates) so he has to just make stuff up. |
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 30, 2019 19:22:22 GMT
Probably because the actual data contradicts what he's saying (countries with low religiousity tend to have lower crime rates) so he has to just make stuff up. Yep, the world works exactly the opposite of what this clown constantly claims. |
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Post by rizdek on Jan 30, 2019 19:31:07 GMT
it can decline fast enough for me. I assume you meant "can't"? |
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Post by goz on Jan 30, 2019 22:43:07 GMT
Probably because the actual data contradicts what he's saying (countries with low religiousity tend to have lower crime rates) so he has to just make stuff up. Yep, the world works exactly the opposite of what this clown constantly claims. From an outside perspective, it seems to be true. Under the democrats, things weren't perfect in USA butt since Trump is POTUS, it seems that the level of 'morality' has gone down to new record lows! ….with worse yet to come with hopefully full disclosure and impeachment and even imprisonment for some. |
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