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Post by bluerisk on May 4, 2019 9:52:39 GMT
A six feet 8K TV won't help you out: first a dark mess, then a reddish-brown one. Sounds like the state of the khazi the morning after a heavy night on the old Guinness and vindaloo. The only time I was worried a bit was when the dragons crashed into each other because they couldn't see either and were guided by the blonde bimbo (Drogon) and the short zerobrain (Rhaegal) The good news: both made it - the dragons.
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Post by MrFurious on May 4, 2019 22:32:55 GMT
That was outstanding. Well done you mad GoT's fanboys. Can not wait for Cersei's death
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Post by ctown28 on May 5, 2019 3:55:06 GMT
Watched the first 2 eps last night and enjoyed them. I see the IMDb score for ep 3 has gone from 9.7 down to 8.7. I'm guessing its all these idiots that watched it on their smartphones and are moaning that it was too dark that voted it down. Looking forward to it anyway this evening A six feet 8K TV won't help you out: first a dark mess, then a reddish-brown one. Try watching in a dark room. It helps see it better
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Post by Winston Wolfe on May 5, 2019 5:06:01 GMT
A six feet 8K TV won't help you out: first a dark mess, then a reddish-brown one. Try watching in a dark room. It helps see it better Not this episode. I did that and still couldn't see shit.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 5, 2019 17:43:13 GMT
Not to be that guy, but the book saga is known as A Song of Ice and Fire, not a song of incestuous nitwits. Dude, as terrifying as the White Walkers were, they were an implacable enemy and an existential threat. They didn’t talk. They couldn’t be negotiated with. There was never going to be human drama, court intrigue or any of the shit that makes GoT so juicy if the last season focused exclusively on the WWs. The way they’ve done this is the only way the series can be brought to an end in a satisfying way. Cersei is the most hated villain, and with the WWs out of the way, the show can return to focusing on the elements that made it a cultural phenomenon. Think about it: Every moment that blew people’s minds was a moment of human drama, betrayal, etc — Ned’s beheading, the Red Wedding, Joffrey’s death, Cersei blowing up the Great Sept. That’s the stuff that makes the show great. I never said the last season should be devoted exclusively to the WWs. I thought Cersei should've been dealt with first, then the stakes get raised to saving the world as opposed to just removing a despot from power. She's easily the dumbest and least compelling villain on the show. She's only alive through massive plot armor (Why didn't the people revolt after she blew up the sept? She was the most hated person in Westeros and she murdered their religious leader, it's absurd that there wasn't a peep from the small folk after that). I hope the books do it better than the show. They won't, because Cersei has gotten progressively more cartoonish as the books have gone on and GRRM is never going to finish the story anyway.
It feels heroic and satisfying when your favorite characters die saving the world; it'll just be annoying when they go out fighting this nincompoop.
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Post by bluerisk on May 5, 2019 18:22:45 GMT
Dude, as terrifying as the White Walkers were, they were an implacable enemy and an existential threat. They didn’t talk. They couldn’t be negotiated with. There was never going to be human drama, court intrigue or any of the shit that makes GoT so juicy if the last season focused exclusively on the WWs. The way they’ve done this is the only way the series can be brought to an end in a satisfying way. Cersei is the most hated villain, and with the WWs out of the way, the show can return to focusing on the elements that made it a cultural phenomenon. Think about it: Every moment that blew people’s minds was a moment of human drama, betrayal, etc — Ned’s beheading, the Red Wedding, Joffrey’s death, Cersei blowing up the Great Sept. That’s the stuff that makes the show great. I never said the last season should be devoted exclusively to the WWs. I thought Cersei should've been dealt with first, then the stakes get raised to saving the world as opposed to just removing a despot from power. She's easily the dumbest and least compelling villain on the show. She's only alive through massive plot armor (Why didn't the people revolt after she blew up the sept? She was the most hated person in Westeros and she murdered their religious leader, it's absurd that there wasn't a peep from the small folk after that). I hope the books do it better than the show. They won't, because Cersei has gotten progressively more cartoonish as the books have gone on and GRRM is never going to finish the story anyway.
It feels heroic and satisfying when your favorite characters die saving the world; it'll just be annoying when they go out fighting this nincompoop.
Back in the day the didn't even care for dragons and stormed the dragon pit, the reason why it is a ruin now, and they slayed several dragons while doing so. Storming the Red Keep is nothing compared to this. And why are the Lannister soldiers are loyal to her, since she has no legal right to the throne, while Jaime is the heir to Castely Rock. It were Lannister soldiers who stormed King Landing and the Red Keep under the command of Tywin Lannister, killing the royal family.
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Post by Marendil on May 5, 2019 21:23:09 GMT
Dude, as terrifying as the White Walkers were, they were an implacable enemy and an existential threat. They didn’t talk. They couldn’t be negotiated with. There was never going to be human drama, court intrigue or any of the shit that makes GoT so juicy if the last season focused exclusively on the WWs. The way they’ve done this is the only way the series can be brought to an end in a satisfying way. Cersei is the most hated villain, and with the WWs out of the way, the show can return to focusing on the elements that made it a cultural phenomenon. Think about it: Every moment that blew people’s minds was a moment of human drama, betrayal, etc — Ned’s beheading, the Red Wedding, Joffrey’s death, Cersei blowing up the Great Sept. That’s the stuff that makes the show great. I never said the last season should be devoted exclusively to the WWs. I thought Cersei should've been dealt with first, then the stakes get raised to saving the world as opposed to just removing a despot from power. She's easily the dumbest and least compelling villain on the show. She's only alive through massive plot armor (Why didn't the people revolt after she blew up the sept? She was the most hated person in Westeros and she murdered their religious leader, it's absurd that there wasn't a peep from the small folk after that). I hope the books do it better than the show. They won't, because Cersei has gotten progressively more cartoonish as the books have gone on and GRRM is never going to finish the story anyway.
It feels heroic and satisfying when your favorite characters die saving the world; it'll just be annoying when they go out fighting this nincompoop.
Fear, because she blew up the Sept. That blast took out her political enemies such as Kevan as well as most of the Tyrells and also killed all the religious fanatics most interested in seeing her humbled i.e. the ones who showed up at her trial. As evil plots go, it was a masterstroke. Who are they going to rally behind and what's the likely fate of anyone who tries? As long as she has The Mountain and Jaime she can put down any insurrection in its infancy and there's no doubt plenty of people who chafed under the new strictures of the Sparrows who are just glad they can drink ale and fuck painted whores again and are more than willing to not make trouble for the Crown.
I much prefer the political machinations and personal drama, the zombie apocalypse storyline was never interesting to me except how it impacted upon the former.
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Post by Marendil on May 5, 2019 21:39:10 GMT
I never said the last season should be devoted exclusively to the WWs. I thought Cersei should've been dealt with first, then the stakes get raised to saving the world as opposed to just removing a despot from power. She's easily the dumbest and least compelling villain on the show. She's only alive through massive plot armor (Why didn't the people revolt after she blew up the sept? She was the most hated person in Westeros and she murdered their religious leader, it's absurd that there wasn't a peep from the small folk after that). I hope the books do it better than the show. They won't, because Cersei has gotten progressively more cartoonish as the books have gone on and GRRM is never going to finish the story anyway.
It feels heroic and satisfying when your favorite characters die saving the world; it'll just be annoying when they go out fighting this nincompoop.
Back in the day the didn't even care for dragons and stormed the dragon pit, the reason why it is a ruin now, and they slayed several dragons while doing so. Storming the Red Keep is nothing compared to this. And why are the Lannister soldiers are loyal to her, since she has no legal right to the throne, while Jaime is the heir to Castely Rock. It were Lannister soldiers who stormed King Landing and the Red Keep under the command of Tywin Lannister, killing the royal family. Those weren't real dragons, they were stunted sickly beasts very unlike Balerion the Dread or even Drogon. There's no reason to think it was well garrisoned by soldiers either. The Red Keep is one of the most formidable fortresses in Westeros along with Dragonstone, Storm's End and The Eyrie, it's not a prairie farmhouse like Winterfell. Jamie didn't dispute her claim, and anyone who'd challenge her authority probably figures they'd have to talk to The Mountain about it and rather wouldn't. Cersei and Jaime are Tywin's heirs and there's no doubt those who'd rather not challenge that legacy.
'Who are you, the proud Lord said That I must bow so low?' Cersei had demonstrated she knows how to answer that question...
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Post by Winston Wolfe on May 6, 2019 4:19:00 GMT
Alright, so, that was def better than last week imo. A horrible end for Missandei, who I always felt was one of the more innocent characters on the show. Emilia Clarke said 8x5 is supposed to be bigger and more intense than last week; certainly looks like that's going to happen. And I doubt it will be, but if this is the last time we see Tormund, I'll miss him. Easily had the best line of the episode: "You weight as much as two fleas fucking."
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 4:22:20 GMT
This weeks episode was imo the best one of the season so far. Had intrigue and high drama. The way it ended had me hyped as fuck for next week. I'm really rooting for Dany to go full on Mad King and then get put down like her father did. I can't see her ruling the Throne anymore unless there is nobody left to rule. I think she either dies or she goes back to Essos when it's all said and done.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 6, 2019 5:56:46 GMT
Spoilers, duh
Boy Sansa had a big mouth. "Promise you won't say anything." "I promise". three seconds later "Tyrion, guess what!" Like my damned sister.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 6:17:40 GMT
Spoilers, duh Boy Sansa had a big mouth. "Promise you won't say anything." "I promise". three seconds later "Tyrion, guess what!" Like my damned sister. I find it funny how watching the Inside the Episode afterward when whoever it was said how she's learned so much from Cersei and Littlefinger that she's using this information that she has. It doesn't come off this way in the show at all. Just seems like she's a 13 year old girl that can't wait to talk gossip and share secrets. So many people seem to think so much of her that it doesn't seem to be portrayed in the show for me like it does for some. People hype up Sansa so much it seems that I have yet to see her do anything really worth a flying fuck all. Yet I keep seeing people talk about how great she is for this or that and I'm just baffled at how we are seeing the same character. Between Sophie Turner being a shit actress (I mean for fuck sake she couldn't even believably cry mourning Theon tonight) and people hyping her like she's this intelligent badass she's become one of my most hated characters in TV history. I remember when people were hyping up "Dark Sansa" and all she fucking did was change fucking clothes. I just don't see wtf it is that make people care about her so much.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 12:11:37 GMT
I never said the last season should be devoted exclusively to the WWs. I thought Cersei should've been dealt with first, then the stakes get raised to saving the world as opposed to just removing a despot from power. She's easily the dumbest and least compelling villain on the show. She's only alive through massive plot armor (Why didn't the people revolt after she blew up the sept? She was the most hated person in Westeros and she murdered their religious leader, it's absurd that there wasn't a peep from the small folk after that). I hope the books do it better than the show. They won't, because Cersei has gotten progressively more cartoonish as the books have gone on and GRRM is never going to finish the story anyway.
It feels heroic and satisfying when your favorite characters die saving the world; it'll just be annoying when they go out fighting this nincompoop.
Fear, because she blew up the Sept. That blast took out her political enemies such as Kevan as well as most of the Tyrells and also killed all the religious fanatics most interested in seeing her humbled i.e. the ones who showed up at her trial. As evil plots go, it was a masterstroke. Who are they going to rally behind and what's the likely fate of anyone who tries? As long as she has The Mountain and Jaime she can put down any insurrection in its infancy and there's no doubt plenty of people who chafed under the new strictures of the Sparrows who are just glad they can drink ale and fuck painted whores again and are more than willing to not make trouble for the Crown.
I much prefer the political machinations and personal drama, the zombie apocalypse storyline was never interesting to me except how it impacted upon the former.
As do I , but I prefer it with competent characters as the focus. Blowing people up doesn't show any level of genius whatsoever. Cersei has been politically outmaneuvered by every single opponent she's faced, with the exception of Ned; who again was outdone more by the Baratheons being selfish and Littlefinger's trickery. Cersei just kills whatever is in front of her, she doesn't play the long game. Plot armor has kept her alive this far and it seems the show is going after the reality show crowd in its conclusion: "Come watch poorly written melodrama and see the smug bitch get hers." Yawn. This past episode was 30 minutes of romance novel scenes (Gendry proposing, Tormund realizing Brienne has eyes for Jaime and whining about it, Jaime and Brienne hooking up, etc.) and a bunch of nonsensical fond farewells. How do the northerners feel about the wildlings abandoning them while they have to march south to fight another war? Why were they splitting up their forces (other than to give Euron an opportunity to shoot down a dragon)? When do we hear more from Dorne, or the Iron Islands; or are they just going to show up as another deus ex machina at some point? How the hell are those ballistae so accurate, while on a ship nonetheless? It's ridiculous, they've tipped the scales in the war to the point that dragons are now obsolete. The showrunners aren't even trying anymore, it's an embarrassment to the story. Now I get to choose who to root for, the smirking imbecile, the entitled brat or the moron who hides behind a rock as the battle is decided by his sister. There are only two episodes left so I may as well finish it out, but GOT is now officially in the 'put it on the background while I work on something else,' category.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 6, 2019 12:57:32 GMT
Fear, because she blew up the Sept. That blast took out her political enemies such as Kevan as well as most of the Tyrells and also killed all the religious fanatics most interested in seeing her humbled i.e. the ones who showed up at her trial. As evil plots go, it was a masterstroke. Who are they going to rally behind and what's the likely fate of anyone who tries? As long as she has The Mountain and Jaime she can put down any insurrection in its infancy and there's no doubt plenty of people who chafed under the new strictures of the Sparrows who are just glad they can drink ale and fuck painted whores again and are more than willing to not make trouble for the Crown.
I much prefer the political machinations and personal drama, the zombie apocalypse storyline was never interesting to me except how it impacted upon the former.
As do I , but I prefer it with competent characters as the focus. Blowing people up doesn't show any level of genius whatsoever. Cersei has been politically outmaneuvered by every single opponent she's faced, with the exception of Ned; who again was outdone more by the Baratheons being selfish and Littlefinger's trickery. Cersei just kills whatever is in front of her, she doesn't play the long game. Plot armor has kept her alive this far and it seems the show is going after the reality show crowd in its conclusion: "Come watch poorly written melodrama and see the smug bitch get hers." Yawn. This past episode was 30 minutes of romance novel scenes (Gendry proposing, Tormund realizing Brienne has eyes for Jaime and whining about it, Jaime and Brienne hooking up, etc.) and a bunch of nonsensical fond farewells. How do the northerners feel about the wildlings abandoning them while they have to march south to fight another war? Why were they splitting up their forces (other than to give Euron an opportunity to shoot down a dragon)? When do we hear more from Dorne, or the Iron Islands; or are they just going to show up as another deus ex machina at some point? How the hell are those ballistae so accurate, while on a ship nonetheless? It's ridiculous, they've tipped the scales in the war to the point that dragons are now obsolete. The showrunners aren't even trying anymore, it's an embarrassment to the story. Now I get to choose who to root for, the smirking imbecile, the entitled brat or the moron who hides behind a rock as the battle is decided by his sister. There are only two episodes left so I may as well finish it out, but GOT is now officially in the 'put it on the background while I work on something else,' category. But what are your thoughts on the Starbucks cup left on the table in one of the scenes? I know there’s a Starbucks literally every 50 feet but I didn’t know they branched out to Winterfell yet.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 13:12:53 GMT
As do I , but I prefer it with competent characters as the focus. Blowing people up doesn't show any level of genius whatsoever. Cersei has been politically outmaneuvered by every single opponent she's faced, with the exception of Ned; who again was outdone more by the Baratheons being selfish and Littlefinger's trickery. Cersei just kills whatever is in front of her, she doesn't play the long game. Plot armor has kept her alive this far and it seems the show is going after the reality show crowd in its conclusion: "Come watch poorly written melodrama and see the smug bitch get hers." Yawn. This past episode was 30 minutes of romance novel scenes (Gendry proposing, Tormund realizing Brienne has eyes for Jaime and whining about it, Jaime and Brienne hooking up, etc.) and a bunch of nonsensical fond farewells. How do the northerners feel about the wildlings abandoning them while they have to march south to fight another war? Why were they splitting up their forces (other than to give Euron an opportunity to shoot down a dragon)? When do we hear more from Dorne, or the Iron Islands; or are they just going to show up as another deus ex machina at some point? How the hell are those ballistae so accurate, while on a ship nonetheless? It's ridiculous, they've tipped the scales in the war to the point that dragons are now obsolete. The showrunners aren't even trying anymore, it's an embarrassment to the story. Now I get to choose who to root for, the smirking imbecile, the entitled brat or the moron who hides behind a rock as the battle is decided by his sister. There are only two episodes left so I may as well finish it out, but GOT is now officially in the 'put it on the background while I work on something else,' category. But what are your thoughts on the Starbucks cup left on the table in one of the scenes? I know there’s a Starbucks literally every 50 feet but I didn’t know they branched out to Winterfell yet. I missed that, I'm going to rewatch it tonight just for that.
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Post by Marendil on May 6, 2019 13:18:29 GMT
Fear, because she blew up the Sept. That blast took out her political enemies such as Kevan as well as most of the Tyrells and also killed all the religious fanatics most interested in seeing her humbled i.e. the ones who showed up at her trial. As evil plots go, it was a masterstroke. Who are they going to rally behind and what's the likely fate of anyone who tries? As long as she has The Mountain and Jaime she can put down any insurrection in its infancy and there's no doubt plenty of people who chafed under the new strictures of the Sparrows who are just glad they can drink ale and fuck painted whores again and are more than willing to not make trouble for the Crown.
I much prefer the political machinations and personal drama, the zombie apocalypse storyline was never interesting to me except how it impacted upon the former.
As do I , but I prefer it with competent characters as the focus. Blowing people up doesn't show any level of genius whatsoever. Cersei has been politically outmaneuvered by every single opponent she's faced, with the exception of Ned; who again was outdone more by the Baratheons being selfish and Littlefinger's trickery. Cersei just kills whatever is in front of her, she doesn't play the long game. Plot armor has kept her alive this far and it seems the show is going after the reality show crowd in its conclusion: "Come watch poorly written melodrama and see the smug bitch get hers." Yawn. This past episode was 30 minutes of romance novel scenes (Gendry proposing, Tormund realizing Brienne has eyes for Jaime and whining about it, Jaime and Brienne hooking up, etc.) and a bunch of nonsensical fond farewells. How do the northerners feel about the wildlings abandoning them while they have to march south to fight another war? Why were they splitting up their forces (other than to give Euron an opportunity to shoot down a dragon)? When do we hear more from Dorne, or the Iron Islands; or are they just going to show up as another deus ex machina at some point? How the hell are those ballistae so accurate, while on a ship nonetheless? It's ridiculous, they've tipped the scales in the war to the point that dragons are now obsolete. The showrunners aren't even trying anymore, it's an embarrassment to the story. Now I get to choose who to root for, the smirking imbecile, the entitled brat or the moron who hides behind a rock as the battle is decided by his sister. There are only two episodes left so I may as well finish it out, but GOT is now officially in the 'put it on the background while I work on something else,' category. I guess we have different expectations and tastes in this regard. Your observations don't strike me as accurate and your questions either easily answered or irrelevant. It seems to me those who were 'rooting' for various characters and factions have been the ones who soured most on the show, perhaps trying to understand them was more helpful to my enjoyment.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 13:37:49 GMT
As do I , but I prefer it with competent characters as the focus. Blowing people up doesn't show any level of genius whatsoever. Cersei has been politically outmaneuvered by every single opponent she's faced, with the exception of Ned; who again was outdone more by the Baratheons being selfish and Littlefinger's trickery. Cersei just kills whatever is in front of her, she doesn't play the long game. Plot armor has kept her alive this far and it seems the show is going after the reality show crowd in its conclusion: "Come watch poorly written melodrama and see the smug bitch get hers." Yawn. This past episode was 30 minutes of romance novel scenes (Gendry proposing, Tormund realizing Brienne has eyes for Jaime and whining about it, Jaime and Brienne hooking up, etc.) and a bunch of nonsensical fond farewells. How do the northerners feel about the wildlings abandoning them while they have to march south to fight another war? Why were they splitting up their forces (other than to give Euron an opportunity to shoot down a dragon)? When do we hear more from Dorne, or the Iron Islands; or are they just going to show up as another deus ex machina at some point? How the hell are those ballistae so accurate, while on a ship nonetheless? It's ridiculous, they've tipped the scales in the war to the point that dragons are now obsolete. The showrunners aren't even trying anymore, it's an embarrassment to the story. Now I get to choose who to root for, the smirking imbecile, the entitled brat or the moron who hides behind a rock as the battle is decided by his sister. There are only two episodes left so I may as well finish it out, but GOT is now officially in the 'put it on the background while I work on something else,' category. I guess we have different expectations and tastes in this regard. Your observations don't strike me as accurate and your questions either easily answered or irrelevant. It seems to me those who were 'rooting' for various characters and factions have been the ones who soured most on the show, perhaps trying to understand them was more helpful to my enjoyment. So easily answered you can't do it. There was no reason for them to split their forces and you know it. Stop being a baby. You liked it, I didn't, it's not a big deal.
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Post by Marendil on May 6, 2019 14:15:45 GMT
I guess we have different expectations and tastes in this regard. Your observations don't strike me as accurate and your questions either easily answered or irrelevant. It seems to me those who were 'rooting' for various characters and factions have been the ones who soured most on the show, perhaps trying to understand them was more helpful to my enjoyment. So easily answered you can't do it. There was no reason for them to split their forces and you know it. Stop being a baby. You liked it, I didn't, it's not a big deal. They wanted to get some forces south as fast as possible. They didn't have to all go at the slowest pace and they had some transports available.
Enjoy the hunt for the Starbucks cup.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 6, 2019 14:27:12 GMT
So easily answered you can't do it. There was no reason for them to split their forces and you know it. Stop being a baby. You liked it, I didn't, it's not a big deal. They wanted to get some forces south as fast as possible. They didn't have to all go at the slowest pace and they had some transports available.
Enjoy the hunt for the Starbucks cup.
They didn't have the numbers to blockade the city either way. The only reason to do it was to get a dragon killed off. Still trying to figure out how Dany didn't see those ships from her vantage point, or why she didn't make any attempt at evasive action as bolt after bolt was fired at her dragon and she just watched.
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Post by anthonyrocks on May 6, 2019 14:32:11 GMT
What the heck is happening to Daenerys Targaryen ?
Is she about to go Mad, Turn Evil, and Try to Kill just about Everybody (Both the Bad and the Innocent) in King's Landing ?
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